to all who helped me with dating my photographs. I learned at lot about an area in which I had almost no knowledge except that my pictures were "old," hardly a criterion for good genealogy!! Thanks again. Rita Kautz, Attica, NY ([email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) )

I would like a copy of this file. Thank you so much. Mary Anne Mary Anne Lee Technical Assistant Academic Advising Madonna University 36600 Schoolcraft Livonia, MI 48150 (734) 432-5748 -----Original Message----- From: Judy Landauer [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Dating old photos Dear listers If anyone would like information on dating old photographs I can send a PDF file entitled "Photography as a Tool in Genealogy" to whomever wants one. I found it on a photography site a few years ago but it look like they've removed it now. This file explains the difference between ambrotypes, tin types, etc. and includes original price, the date range that they were produced, how they were packaged, etc. etc., and TONS of other info that would help a person decide just what kind of picture they have. Because of this file, I was able to solve the mystery of why I had a cardboard-backed photo of a 80 year old ancestress who died in 1855! Turns out it is a rare Calotype, which are only found now in museums. They were produced from 1845-1855 (approx). The problem with them is that the image faded quickly and now most images are only ghostly shadows of the original. I scanned it and ran it through photoshop elements, which worked wonders to bring back a lot of the details of the original. If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I will send it to them. Judy Richard & Judy Landauer [email protected] AIM: judylandauer ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I would appreciate a copy of your dating old photos. [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Thank you so much/

I am looking for information on a James Hadlock, wife Asa, who was living in Locke. I have found him in the following sources: 1810 Census 1820 Census - Locke, Cayuga County 1831 - Makes out will - lists wife, Asa, children: Jeremiah Hadlock, Peter Hadlock, Charlotte Ferril, Elizabeth Smith, Mercy Cole and Permely Cook (Permelia - daughter of James Cook who was an early settler of Locke). 1833 - Petition for Am. Rev. War Veterans Pension - He notes that after the war he had lived in "Cortland's Patent on the Delaware River"; Chenago, and next in Locke where he was residing at the date of his petition. 9 Feb 1836 - He has moved to Crawford County, Pennsylvania on account "that he is now in the State of Pennsylvania where he intends to remain.the following are his reasons for removing from New York to Pennsylvania, viz his children had all removed from the State of New York. Would love to have some clues about this man's family and where they headed off to! I know about the Cook line - but what about Jeremiah??? Rod Fleck Forks, WA

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I would very much like to see a copy of this file. John M. Henderson [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Dating old photos > Judy: > I would like a copy of the PDF file if it is possible. > Bill > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Landauer" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Dating old photos > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:19:58 -0700 > > > > > Dear listers > > > > If anyone would like information on dating old photographs I can > > send a PDF file entitled "Photography as a Tool in Genealogy" to > > whomever wants one. I found it on a photography site a few years > > ago but it look like they've removed it now. This file explains > > the difference between ambrotypes, tin types, etc. and includes > > original price, the date range that they were produced, how they > > were packaged, etc. etc., and TONS of other info that would help a > > person decide just what kind of picture they have. > > > > Because of this file, I was able to solve the mystery of why I had > > a cardboard-backed photo of a 80 year old ancestress who died in > > 1855! Turns out it is a rare Calotype, which are only found now in > > museums. They were produced from 1845-1855 (approx). The problem > > with them is that the image faded quickly and now most images are > > only ghostly shadows of the original. I scanned it and ran it > > through photoshop elements, which worked wonders to bring back a > > lot of the details of the original. > > > > If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I > > will send it to them. > > > > Judy > > > > > > Richard & Judy Landauer > > [email protected] > > AIM: judylandauer > > > > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > Researching: Forshay / Foshay - NY,NJ,Canada; Beirschenk - MN NY Germany; Wild - Bohemia, WI; Fleischman - Bohemia, WI; Nelson / Nilsson - Sweden, MN. > > -- > _______________________________________________ > NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. > http://datingsearch.lycos.com > > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005 > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005

Sorry I got a little lost in following this post, but I will offer a different set of parents for Hugh Ely. I will appreciate any info/other assumptions, etc as we try to resolve what seems to be Bucks Co. to Cayuga Co. migration. I have quite a bit on Bucks Co. Descendants of Hugh Ely, Jr. 1 Hugh Ely, Jr. b: Abt. 1721 in of Buckingham Twp d: 22 Feb 1791 in See A Historical Narrative of the Ely, Revell and Stacye Families Burial: For marriage to Blackfan which is strong match .. +Elizabeth Blackfan b: Abt. 1722 .. 2 Hugh Ely b: Abt. 1741 d: in exr for Joseph Bye of Buckingham, proved 10-1-1774 .. 2 John Ely b: Abt. 1740 d: in Exr for Rebecca Bye of Buckingham Burial: kids in her will. ...... +Hannah Unknownwifetoely b: Abt. 1740 ....... 3 Seneca Ely b: Abt. 1760 ....... 3 Elizabeth Ely b: Abt. 1761 ....... 3 Letitia Ely b: Abt. 1762 .. 2 William Ely b: Abt. 1739 .. 2 Jesse Ely b: Abt. 1742 .. 2 Joseph Ely b: Abt. 1743 .. 2 Elizabeth Ely b: Abt. 1744 ...... +Unknown Smith b: Abt. 1744 .. 2 Hugh Ely b: 08 Aug 1741 in Solebury, Bucks, Pa d: in were his parents Joshua and Eliz Bell or Hugh and Eliz Blackfan ....... 3 John Ely b: 09 Apr 1778 in Solebury, Bucks, Pa d: 28 Jul 1826 in Buckingham, Bucks, Pa ........... +Rachel Hartley b: 23 Dec 1773 in Solebury Twp, Bucks, Pennsylvania m: 11 Nov 1801 in Buckingham, Bucks, Pa d: in Rachel Ely, 77 yrs old, on 1850 Scipio of Moses T. Fell Burial: with Hannah and Moses Fell ........... 4 Elias Ely b: 29 Aug 1803 in Solebury, Bucks Co, PA..ON 1830,40 Venice nxt to Giles Landon Burial: married Polly Landon (most likely a sister of Giles). ............... +Polly Landon b: Abt. 1805 d: in prob sis to Giles ........... 4 David Ely b: Abt. 1803 in Solebury, Bucks Co, PA. d: 1803 ........... 4 Hannah Ely b: Bet. 1800 - 1802 in Solebury, Bucks Co., Pa d: 26 Feb 1890 in Scipio Center, Cayuga, N.Y..both in Sherwood or Phelps Cem ............... +Moses T. Fell b: 1796 in Pa..On 1820 Buckingham, Bucks Co. Pa., nxt to bro or dad David d: 31 Mar 1887 in On 1850,60 Scipio, miller..He and Hannah on 1880 of Ellwood ................ 5 Rachel Fell b: 1827 in N.Y..On 1850,60 Scipio ................ 5 John E. Fell b: Bet. 1827 - 1828 in N.Y..On 1850 Scipio..On 1870 Venice d: 1906 in On 1880 District 42, Venice, Cayuga Co., New York .................... +Sarah E. Powell b: 1826 in N.Y. d: 1907 in 1880 also shows Moses with them..Ridgeway Cem, Venice #146 .................... 6 Eva M. Ely b: 1860 in N.Y..servant, parents b. N.Y. d: in On 1880 District 42, Venice, Cayuga Co., New York ................ *2nd Wife of John E. Fell: .................... +Lydia S. Powell b: 1825 in N.Y..On 1870 Venice d: 29 Aug 1870 in Ridgeway Cem, Venice #146 .................... 6 Elmer Fell b: 1861 in N.Y d: 1912 in Ridgeway Cem, Venice #146 .................... 6 Fayette P. Fell b: 1863 in N.Y d: 1909 in Ridgeway Cem, Venice #146 .................... 6 John W. Fell b: 1864 in N.Y d: 1903 in Ridgeway Cem, Venice #146 .................... 6 Henry H. Fell b: 1868 in N.Y ................ 5 Mary Fell b: 1831 in N.Y..On 1850 Scipio ................ 5 Ellwood H. Fell b: 1845 in N.Y..On 1850,60 Scipio. d: in On 1880 District 42, Venice, Cayuga Co., N.Y. .................... +Louisa Wifeto Fell b: 1844 in N.Y..On 1880.. Parents b. N.Y. .................... 6 Isabella Fell b: 1868 in N.Y. .................... 6 Mary Fell b: 1872 in N.Y. .................... 6 Howard Fell b: 1874 in N.Y. .................... 6 Josie Fell b: 1876 in N.Y .................... 6 Louie Louise Fell b: 1878 in N.Y ................ 5 Male In Buckingham Fell b: Bet. 1804 - 1810 d: in cbe a brother to Moses T, not std 1820 census? ........... 4 Hugh Ely b: 27 Apr 1805 in Solebury, Bucks Co, PA..ON 1830 Venice ........... 4 John Ely b: 1831 d: in On 1850 Venice w Giles and Lucretia Landon fam ............... +Sarah Frost Willets b: Abt. 1835 ................ 5 Coral Willets Ely b: Bet. 1851 - 1871 .................... +Aletta Cordelia Hussey b: Bet. 1851 - 1871 ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] surnames Landon and Georgia > Lettie was born in New York. Lucretia Handy was born in Vermont. > > I haven't a clue as to what her maiden name was nor to which Landon she > was > married. > > I cannot figure it out. I would be happy just to know her first husband's > name. The maiden name would be icing on the cake! > > Thanks again for taking the time to answer my query. > > Georgia > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Judy: I would like a copy of the PDF file if it is possible. Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Landauer" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Dating old photos Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 08:19:58 -0700 > > Dear listers > > If anyone would like information on dating old photographs I can > send a PDF file entitled "Photography as a Tool in Genealogy" to > whomever wants one. I found it on a photography site a few years > ago but it look like they've removed it now. This file explains > the difference between ambrotypes, tin types, etc. and includes > original price, the date range that they were produced, how they > were packaged, etc. etc., and TONS of other info that would help a > person decide just what kind of picture they have. > > Because of this file, I was able to solve the mystery of why I had > a cardboard-backed photo of a 80 year old ancestress who died in > 1855! Turns out it is a rare Calotype, which are only found now in > museums. They were produced from 1845-1855 (approx). The problem > with them is that the image faded quickly and now most images are > only ghostly shadows of the original. I scanned it and ran it > through photoshop elements, which worked wonders to bring back a > lot of the details of the original. > > If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I > will send it to them. > > Judy > > > Richard & Judy Landauer > [email protected] > AIM: judylandauer > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx Researching: Forshay / Foshay - NY,NJ,Canada; Beirschenk - MN NY Germany; Wild - Bohemia, WI; Fleischman - Bohemia, WI; Nelson / Nilsson - Sweden, MN. -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com

I would appreciate one of the dating photo PDF files. I am scanning some photos from Floyd County which I can identify because of death dates (1860s and 1870s), but I have a lot of unknowns. Thanks George Halstead At 10:19 AM 3/13/2005, you wrote: >Dear listers > >If anyone would like information on dating old photographs I can send a >PDF file entitled "Photography as a Tool in Genealogy" to whomever wants >one. I found it on a photography site a few years ago but it look like >they've removed it now. This file explains the difference between >ambrotypes, tin types, etc. and includes original price, the date range >that they were produced, how they were packaged, etc. etc., and TONS of >other info that would help a person decide just what kind of picture they have. > >Because of this file, I was able to solve the mystery of why I had a >cardboard-backed photo of a 80 year old ancestress who died in 1855! >Turns out it is a rare Calotype, which are only found now in museums. >They were produced from 1845-1855 (approx). The problem with them is that >the image faded quickly and now most images are only ghostly shadows of >the original. I scanned it and ran it through photoshop elements, which >worked wonders to bring back a lot of the details of the original. > >If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I will >send it to them. > >Judy > > >Richard & Judy Landauer >[email protected] >AIM: judylandauer > > >==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== >Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? >http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

I would appreciate receiving that PDF file on how to date photographs. Thank you so much for your time. Rita Bishop Kautz, Attica, NY ([email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) )

Judy--I too would like a copy of the article on dating old photos. I would like to add something that is often overlooked when dealing with some of these processes. The procedures such as tintype, which worked directly with an original exposed in the camera, gave an inverted image. Those old tintypes need to be reversed left to right to give a correct image, something you can do in your photo editing program if you are copying them. Bill Lester

Hi Judy, I also would love to have a copy when you have time (no hurry). Thank you so much. Bonnie Hartmann Laguna Beach, CA

I would like to receive a copy of the pdf file, too! Carla

<< If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I will send it to them.>> Judy, I would love to have a copy of this PDF file. Thank you for offering. Pat

Thanks so much for the offer. Please, do send me the PDF file on dating old photographs. Sherlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Landauer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Dating old photos > Dear listers > > If anyone would like information on dating old photographs I can send a > PDF file entitled "Photography as a Tool in Genealogy" to whomever wants > one. I found it on a photography site a few years ago but it look like > they've removed it now. This file explains the difference between > ambrotypes, tin types, etc. and includes original price, the date range > that they were produced, how they were packaged, etc. etc., and TONS of > other info that would help a person decide just what kind of picture they > have. > > Because of this file, I was able to solve the mystery of why I had a > cardboard-backed photo of a 80 year old ancestress who died in 1855! > Turns out it is a rare Calotype, which are only found now in museums. > They were produced from 1845-1855 (approx). The problem with them is that > the image faded quickly and now most images are only ghostly shadows of > the original. I scanned it and ran it through photoshop elements, which > worked wonders to bring back a lot of the details of the original. > > If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I will > send it to them. > > Judy > > > Richard & Judy Landauer > [email protected] > AIM: judylandauer > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

Judy I too would like a copy. Thanks, Mike [email protected] wrote: > << If anyone would like a copy of this file, please > let me know and I will send it to them.>> > > Judy, > I would love to have a copy of this PDF file. > Thank you for offering. > Pat > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Dear listers If anyone would like information on dating old photographs I can send a PDF file entitled "Photography as a Tool in Genealogy" to whomever wants one. I found it on a photography site a few years ago but it look like they've removed it now. This file explains the difference between ambrotypes, tin types, etc. and includes original price, the date range that they were produced, how they were packaged, etc. etc., and TONS of other info that would help a person decide just what kind of picture they have. Because of this file, I was able to solve the mystery of why I had a cardboard-backed photo of a 80 year old ancestress who died in 1855! Turns out it is a rare Calotype, which are only found now in museums. They were produced from 1845-1855 (approx). The problem with them is that the image faded quickly and now most images are only ghostly shadows of the original. I scanned it and ran it through photoshop elements, which worked wonders to bring back a lot of the details of the original. If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I will send it to them. Judy Richard & Judy Landauer [email protected] AIM: judylandauer

Rita is looking for help on photo identification and dating. Rita stated the photographer as H. R. Luidsley (I believe), No. 109 Genesee Street, Auburn, NY, over Sagar's Drug Store. _______________ At the Cayuga County Historian's Office there is a project by Don Weber re: Auburn Photographers. It is comprised of a group of index cards listing each photographer's business name, photographer(s) name, business address and year they are listed in the City Directories under that name. Here is what Mr. Weber has for any combination of Lindsley. As you will note, they moved around, changed business names, partnered and unpartnered often. It's very confusing without Mr. Weber's notes. Harvey B. Lindsley is listed below at 109 Genesee in 1901 (note Harvey seems to be brother to H. R. Lindsley). Don't know if this will help Rita but it might provide some hint. Pat Photographer Name Address Years Listed in Directory under that specific name Lindsley & Brother 99 Genesee St. 1875-76 H. R. Lindsley H. B. Lindsley Harvey B. Lindsley 1885: 99 & 101 Genesee 1876-1894 (1892, also Ideal Portrait Co.) 1896-1913 1901: 109 Genesee 1908: 42 South Henry Lindsley 99 Genesee 1874-75 (same as Lindsley & Wright 1877-79 1871-1872 1883 Lindsley & Smart 77 Genesee 1879-1880 Henry Lindsley O. M. Smart Lindsley & Wright 99 Genesee 1871-1872 H. R. Lindsley F. A. Wright

NAMES: ROTO (Charles and Frank), EWALT, BEYER, FRIEND, HARMON Hi, Cayuga list: I have a snapshot taken about 1915 of the following persons named below as written on the back of the photo. I believe the name "Cuckoo" Roto is that of Charles Roto. I also have a clipping of Charles Roto's obituary of 10/1917 when he died of influenza on ship board while crossing fight in France during World War I. If anyone is a family member of any of these people I would be happy to send you a copy of the picture if you contact me. Rita Bishop Kautz, Attica, NY ([email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ) _____________________see below ROTO "Cuckoo" EWALT, Paul BEYER. Billie FRIEND, John BISHOP, Clifford HARMON, Hoggie ROTO, Frank