Re: I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything about "Master Genealogist" Janet, I use Master Genealogist almost exclusively for my databases and wholeheartedly recommend it for organizing and storing genealogy data. It has the best source documentation, family views, and options for customizing information that I've found anywhere. It's a little pricey to buy initially, but they have free upgrades that you can download every year or so. I think in the 10 years of so that I've used the program (pretty much since it's release) I've only had to pay for an upgrade twice, and gotten at least a half-dozen for free, unlike Family Tree Maker, which makes you pay for an upgrade at least every year! There are just a couple of warnings about TMG. It is VERY complex. I attended a class on using it in a NGS conference before I bought it, have used it for a long time, and still am clueless as to how to do a lot of things with it. There is so much potential that I don't take advantage of and have to refer to the manual almost every time I try to publish something with it. Because of this, I also keep Family Tree Maker up to date and installed on my computer as well. If you're a novice, FTM might be the better program to start with because it is much more user friendly. I always wind up making a gedcom with TMG and importing it to FTM to do a book with multiple reports, charts and indexes, etc. because it's a lot easier. I know TMG does those things as well, it's just not quite so simple. That leads to one other problem with TMG. One of the reasons I like it so much is because there is so much detail available for documentation. However it often winds up being several layers deep, and a lot of the information stored there is lost when converted to a gedcom. For example an event will have a source field, which will let you chose or create a new source, like most other programs. Then it goes a step or two deeper where you can describe a secondary or tertiary source, if applicable, the repository, attachments, and other notes about it. When it gets exported in gedcom format, all you might get is the source and whatever citation you have made. That's not a big problem except when you're attempting to switch to a different format to share all of your information with someone else. I guess, all things being equal, if I had to choose only one program to use it would be TMG hands down.

Hi, Janet, I'm with [email protected]; I use TMG almost exclusively. I use Family Tree Maker to exchange with other people (because they have FTM) and for some output. In addition to what s/he said, I should say that you can simplify the complexity -- it has a simple and advanced mode. And you are not forced to use all the features. I think it's better as a research tool than as a report-producing tool. If your primary purpose is to share information, you are probably better off with a simpler program (although I would recommend Legacy over Family Tree Maker.) But as a research tool, it's excellent, the best on the market. Barbara At 12:38 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: >Hello. I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything about "Master >Genealogist" It is used as a reference by the National Genealogical Soc. in >comparing several programs. I'm not sure who or what they are referring to, >or how to contact them. Any help will be much appreciated. Janet Hodder, >[email protected] Barbara Zanzig Kirkland, WA, USA [email protected] http://www.isomedia.com/homes/hertz/ "You must be the change you want to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,

Where were the PRESERVATION efforts of the NY State Office of Parks and HISTORIC PRESERVATION ? > Mr. Hecht > Where was this house located?? I agree with you, that the house > should have at the least been documented. I think preservation is in > the mind of the department that is in charge??? > > John T > > */Bill Hecht <[email protected]>/* wrote: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13307small.jpg > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13308small.jpg > > This home could have been saved and incorporated in the new BOCES > campus. > Neither Cayuga County, BOCES or NEW York State Historic Preservation > would expend one dime to even document and record this home. > However I > am told they did find over $150,000 to do an investigation and dig on > the adjacent home that is long gone and torn down about 1954. > > Why would none of these agencies even lift a finger for a minimal > documentation of this site. > > Makes one wonder just what does Preservation mean? > Is it just lip service? > > Large version > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13307.jpg > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13308.jpg > > Bill Hecht > > > > ** >

The Master Genealogist - this will give you want you are looking for. http://www.whollygenes.com/tmg.htm

Located due west of Auburn NY and just east of Half Acre John Turney wrote: > Mr. Hecht > Where was this house located?? I agree with you, that the house > should have at the least been documented. I think preservation is in > the mind of the department that is in charge??? > > John Turney > > */Bill Hecht <[email protected]>/* wrote: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13307small.jpg > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13308small.jpg > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13303small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13305small.jpg > > > This home could have been saved and incorporated in the new BOCES > campus. > Neither Cayuga County, BOCES or NEW York State Historic Preservation > would expend one dime to even document and record this home. > However I > am told they did find over $150,000 to do an investigation and dig on > the adjacent home that is long gone and torn down about 1954. > > Why would none of these agencies even lift a finger for a minimal > documentation of this site. > > Makes one wonder just what does Preservation mean? > Is it just lip service? > > Large version > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13307.jpg > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13308.jpg > > Bill Hecht > > > > *Squirt & Jeanne* >

Hello. I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything about "Master Genealogist" It is used as a reference by the National Genealogical Soc. in comparing several programs. I'm not sure who or what they are referring to, or how to contact them. Any help will be much appreciated. Janet Hodder, [email protected]

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13307small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13308small.jpg This home could have been saved and incorporated in the new BOCES campus. Neither Cayuga County, BOCES or NEW York State Historic Preservation would expend one dime to even document and record this home. However I am told they did find over $150,000 to do an investigation and dig on the adjacent home that is long gone and torn down about 1954. Why would none of these agencies even lift a finger for a minimal documentation of this site. Makes one wonder just what does Preservation mean? Is it just lip service? Large version http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13307.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13308.jpg Bill Hecht

Bill, The Pinckney Field shot brought back many fond memories of sitting behind 3rd base dugout with my Dad watching the Auburn Cayugas (old Border League) managed by Barney Hearn. Thanks for all you do. Clayton "Sam" Gilmore, AEHS, '55 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hecht" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Pinckney Field big version > Here is a much better job of stitching three images together. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures131/13169small.jpg > > HUGE 17 meg version > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures131/13169.jpg > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message > to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you > receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Ray - You're doing such a great job with that site - thanks for all your hard work! Betsy Gorman Elmira, NY In a message dated 6/22/2005 6:31:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: In the New York town history section of my web site I just added histories for the following 5 towns in Cayuga County, NY. Fleming, Ira, Locke, Summer Hill (or Summerhill) and Victory. Also there is a page started with Bio's of Cayuga County. http://history.rays-place.com/ny/index.htm Ray Brown

I just added a History of Sterling, NY to the New York town history section of my web site. With Sterling being in the Northern most part of the County if seems to have more in common with Oswego and Wayne counties, which both border on Sterling than it does with the rest of Cayuga County. This a the largest file that I have for Cayuga County so far, and it included the Biographies of 15 men from Sterling. The Bio's can be found by using the Bio's link under the County name. This is the only town in Cayuga County that I have been in, as when I was in Jefferson County I went to the beach in the Fair Haven part of Sterling. http://www.rays-place.com Ray Brown

Sam Thanks for writing and I am glad you had as much fun looking at the picture as I did taking it. Back over 40 years ago I used to go to ball games here with my cousin who was a great sports nut. I think it was the Auburn Yankees then. I remember one game when the Yankees came up from NY and the Auburn team had them going till well past midnight. I have an extra box seat ticket if you ever want to join me. Just give me a call at 889-7761. all the best bill hecht Sam Gilmore wrote: > Bill, > The Pinckney Field shot brought back many fond memories of sitting > behind 3rd base dugout with my Dad watching the Auburn Cayugas (old > Border League) managed by Barney Hearn. Thanks for all you do. > Clayton "Sam" Gilmore, AEHS, '55 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hecht" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:40 PM > Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Pinckney Field big version > > >> Here is a much better job of stitching three images together. >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures131/13169small.jpg >> >> HUGE 17 meg version >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures131/13169.jpg >> >> >> ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== >> Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message >> to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you >> receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message > to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you > receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Here is a much better job of stitching three images together. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures131/13169small.jpg HUGE 17 meg version http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures131/13169.jpg

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures131/bearswamp_3D.jpg This is a view SW file is about 1.6 meg so I hope U have a fast hookup bill hecht

In the New York town history section of my web site I just added histories for the following 5 towns in Cayuga County, NY. Fleming, Ira, Locke, Summer Hill (or Summerhill) and Victory. Also there is a page started with Bio's of Cayuga County. http://history.rays-place.com/ny/index.htm Ray Brown

Bill Hart wrote: > > In searching through the archives (in both free and paid for areas) of > the Syracuse Post-Standard, I > ran across an obituary for George E. MAY, who was a "life resident of > Auburn", born 21 June 1923 > in Auburn and died 29 June 1990 in Syracuse. > > What I'm interested in finding out is whether George MAY's wife, who > is listed as "the former Barbara > LUCAS", is the same Barbara LUCAS enumerated in the 1930 Census (7 > April 1930), Auburn 9th ward, > ED 6-19, page 2B. She is listed as 2 yr, 5 m and is living with her > parents William P. and Helen M. > LUCAS. > > The Barbara LUCAS in the Census record is a 3rd cousin of my father. > Barbara's mother and my > paternal grandmother were 2nd cousins. > > Can anyone confirm whether or not the Barbara LUCAS in the Census info > is the Barbara LUCAS > that George MAY. > > Bill Hart >

In searching through the archives (in both free and paid for areas) of the Syracuse Post-Standard, I ran across an obituary for George E. MAY, who was a "life resident of Auburn", born 21 June 1923 in Auburn and died 29 June 1990 in Syracuse. What I'm interested in finding out is whether George MAY's wife, who is listed as "the former Barbara LUCAS", is the same Barbara LUCAS enumerated in the 1930 Census (7 April 1930), Auburn 9th ward, ED 6-19, page 2B. She is listed as 2 yr, 5 m and is living with her parents William P. and Helen M. LUCAS. The Barbara LUCAS in the Census record is a 3rd cousin of my father. Barbara's mother and my paternal grandmother were 2nd cousins. Can anyone confirm whether or not the Barbara LUCAS in the Census info is the Barbara LUCAS that George MAY. Bill Hart

According to 1850 census, town of Mentz, Cayuga County, New York: (7th day of September) Daniel DEVOE, age 36 Phebe DEVOE, age 30 Daniel DEVOE, age 12 ** Mary DEVOE, age 10 Joseph DEVOE, age 8*** Sophia DEVOE, age 5 Phebe DEVOE, age 3 David DEVOE, age 61 Polly DEVOE, age 60 Martin DEVOE, age 10 Is Martin DEVOE son or grandson (perhaps twin of Mary above)?? David's wife Polly is perhaps also known as Mary and maiden name perhaps is RICE. Does anyone know the whereabouts of Mary, Sophia, and Phebe DEVOE; who they married. Some of these DEVOE and their descendants migrated to Wayne County and Monroe County, New York. **Daniel L. DEVOE born 10/24/1837 in Mentz/Montezuma married first wife Mary Eva MILLER (Mary born Jan 4, 1841 in Lock Berlin,NY) on 5/2/1865 Methodist Parsonage Clyde, Wayne County, New York; They had 4 daughters: Nina C. who died about 2 yrs old Stella May DEVOE b. 10/22/1866 married James Henry MEADE on 10/22/1884 (resided Rochester, NY) Olga S. DEVOE married George Catchpole WATSON (professor of agriculture at a college) Florence Waring DEVOE married Alfred Stanton ARMSTRON who was a lawyer and a district attorney Daughters Olga & Florence resided in Clyde, Wayne County, New York. no children for either of them. ***Joseph DEVOE born Nov. 14, 1842 died Sept 15, 1912 1880 census; age 38; occupation railroad conductor (in Rochester,Monroe County,NY) Sarah Elmina DEVOE; age 41, born NY; parents born NY Jenney Grace DEVOE; age 4, born nY Sarah Elmina DEVOE's maiden name was HILLS; birth date: Sept 1, 1838 to Nov. 1, 1889. Joseph and Sarah did have a son: Reuben J. DEVOE 1883 to 1933. Joseph & first wife Sarah Elmina along with Reuben J. DEVOE are buried in Mt Hope Cemetery; Tombstones Range 4, Lots 1-114. Rochester, Monroe County, NY. 1900 1st day of June Census, Wayne County, Lyons Township/Village Joseph DEVOE, born Nov. 1842; age 57; married to 2nd wife for 7 years; R.R. Conductor Eliza DEVOE, wife; born July 1847 age 52 in England; parents born England; In 1857 became naturalized citizen. Last time I can locate Joseph & Eliza is in the 1910 census for Lyons Township/Village, Wayne County, New York where it is indicated this is 2nd marriage for both of them. 1900 Census 1-2nd day of June, 1900 Grace J DEVOE and her brother Reuben J. DEVOE are boarders with family J. & Mary McCLINTOCK (early 40's) 240 Averill Avenue in Rochester, NY Grace J. DEVOE; born Sept 1875 age 24; occupation: schoolteacher Reuben J. DEVOE, born Jan 1883; age 17; occupation clerk in Laundry Reuben did not die until 1933; unknown as to whether he married or not; I cannot seem to locate him in the 1910 or 1920 census but it would seem that he is still in Rochester, NY since he is buried there. Grace J. (Jennie Grace) DEVOE meets her husband William SNELL apparently in Rochester, New York where he is a physician at age 26 in the Rochester Homeopathic Hospital. W. M. SNELL is listed in the 1900 census on the 20th day of June 204 or 274 Alexander where I assume this hospital is located as many medical people are listed on this page in the census. He was born April 1874. William M. SNELL, M.D. and Jennie G. DEVOE are married Oct 21, 1902 in Rochester, New York. William is age 28 and Jennie is age 27; first marriage for both according to the marriage certificate which is where parents names are indicated with their maiden names, etc. William is the son of Gideon SNELL and Malona MARTIN; Jennie is the daughter of Joseph DEVOE and S. E. HILLS. This SNELL family are well known in Jefferson County, especially township of Theresa, New York. They do not appear to be a poor family; several were Millers. (coming from Herkimer County, New York). By 1910 census, Dr. William M. SNELL and wife Jennie Grace DEVOE are residing in Theresa Township, Jefferson County, New York. They now have a daughter Almira M.; age 6 and a hired man living in their home David D. MALLET who is a widowed 73 year old; he drives horse for Doctor for his occupation; Next door to them are William's parents: Gideon & Malona ages 70 & 67. By the 1920 census: Dr. William SNELL and wife Grace DEVOE have no children living with them; do have a married housekeeper age 24 by name of Lydia HUNT. Almira M., their daughter would have been about age 16 unless she married at early age, I cannot locate her. Am still trying to locate kin; who might know of relationship of our Mary or Martha Elizabeth "Betsey" DEVOE who was born about 1816...seeking to know relationship of Betsey to Daniel DEVOE who married Phoebe or Phebe WHITE. Any family Biblies, any family stories, any proof. Seeking the rest of the story to the above. Thank you so much Judy [email protected]

Please does anyone know this David DEVOE? David "D.D." DEVOE born about 1778 died Oct 5, 1853 in 75th year of his age buried in Old Montezuma Cemetery Montezuma, Cayuga County, New York Thank you Judy [email protected]

Daughters of Daniel L. DEVOE & Mary MILLER (son of Daniel DEVOE/Phoebe WHITE) Olga S. DEVOE who married George C.(Catchpole) WATSON (a professor of agriculture at a college) had no children; resided Clyde/Galen, Wayne County, New York Florence Waring DEVOE "Floss" (very well known up state New York as a vocalist and pianist) who married Alfred Stanton ARMSTRONG, Lawyer, own practice had no children; resided Clyde/Galen, Wayne County, New York (is this known as upstate New York??). Alfred died in 1922. so those are dead ends as far as finding descending kin. Only Stella May DEVOE, eldest daughter of Daniel L. DEVOE (Jr) & Mary MILLER, had children with James Henry MEADE. Judy [email protected]

Please anyone who can help us will be much appreciated for information on the DEVOE family who resided in the following counties in New York: Cayuga County, Wayne County, St Lawrence County Tioga County Seeking parentage of Martha or Mary Elizabeth DEVOE (nickname Betsey) who was born about 1816 in possibly Tioga County, New York. She married Ira W. CALL. Betsey DEVOE's possible parents are David DEVOE & Mary RICE. Betsey DEVOE's possible sibling Daniel DEVOE born abt 1814 who married Phoebe WHITE. Ira W. CALL lived 5 residences away from a DEVOE family in Mentz, Cayuga County, New York. Thank you so much Judy [email protected]