Betty, thank you for the info, I'll check it out and see if I can figure it out. I found with the RM program than I'm not able to burn a direct CD from it, so I'm going to have to come up with another source and this might work. Bren Harrison, AR. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Steward" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Genealogy program > Brenda: > > Family History CD from the Jefferson Project, go to their website at > www.familyhistorycd.com for a trial version. Read the manual available. > > I loved the idea that I could create my family's own CD program to share. > With the various branches I am researching for myself and my husband, I > found this an easy way to separate the lines. Burning - sending - these > CD's is less expense than printing out reports. They are easy to update & > add to. > > Many of the pictures I have are of family group gatherings taken in the > early 1900's. Using the "face labels" is really 'neat' ! and there's no > doubt which face goes with which name. When my grandchildren show these > pictures to their grandchildren, the information will still be right > there. > > This is a self-running program, so anyone can put the CD on their computer > and see/read the information you put on it. Try it, you may get excited > about it, too. > > Bette in GA > > [email protected] > > researching: > Ackley, Tillinghast, Dyer (Jefferson & Herkimer Co NY) > Palmer, Shutts, Kennedy, Knight, Lane (Oswego Co NY) > Van Patten, Jewell, Bennett, Hitchcock, Rhodes (Cayuga Co NY) > Stauffer, Sowash, Stewart (Allegheny, Westmoreland, Cambria PA) > Steward, Lane, Shipp, Nicholson, Dawkins, Dawson, Dodson (VA, NC, SC, GA) > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

1882 engraving of south end of Skaneateles Lake http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13314small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13314.jpg June 2005 map of Bear Swamp from the Cayuga County Planning Department http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13313small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13313medium.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures133/13313.jpg

Brenda: Family History CD from the Jefferson Project, go to their website at www.familyhistorycd.com for a trial version. Read the manual available. I loved the idea that I could create my family's own CD program to share. With the various branches I am researching for myself and my husband, I found this an easy way to separate the lines. Burning - sending - these CD's is less expense than printing out reports. They are easy to update & add to. Many of the pictures I have are of family group gatherings taken in the early 1900's. Using the "face labels" is really 'neat' ! and there's no doubt which face goes with which name. When my grandchildren show these pictures to their grandchildren, the information will still be right there. This is a self-running program, so anyone can put the CD on their computer and see/read the information you put on it. Try it, you may get excited about it, too. Bette in GA [email protected] researching: Ackley, Tillinghast, Dyer (Jefferson & Herkimer Co NY) Palmer, Shutts, Kennedy, Knight, Lane (Oswego Co NY) Van Patten, Jewell, Bennett, Hitchcock, Rhodes (Cayuga Co NY) Stauffer, Sowash, Stewart (Allegheny, Westmoreland, Cambria PA) Steward, Lane, Shipp, Nicholson, Dawkins, Dawson, Dodson (VA, NC, SC, GA)

Does Family Tree Maker allow one to create a reports and trees that are GENARIC web pages and can be uploaded to ANY site. Last time I looked they seemed to have only propritary web page creation that only could upload to THEIR site? Marian Steward wrote: >Adding my 2-cents about genealogy programs. > >I use RootsMagic. Love it's simplicity. Does everything I need it to. If >you have a question - contact them and they will answer. They have a >website http://www.rootsmagic.com./ where you can download a free version. >I have used the creator's programs since 1990. (there was a fore-runner) > >RootsMagic introduced me to Family History CD, which I love to use to share >all the documentation, charts and photos I have currently. It's a breeze to >update, burn a CD and send to my relatives. (I'm the only one working on our >family history at this time, but want every branch to have the information >since some of their descendants may one day want to know.) > >Bette in GA > > > >==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== >Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message >to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you >receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >

Adding my 2-cents about genealogy programs. I use RootsMagic. Love it's simplicity. Does everything I need it to. If you have a question - contact them and they will answer. They have a website http://www.rootsmagic.com./ where you can download a free version. I have used the creator's programs since 1990. (there was a fore-runner) RootsMagic introduced me to Family History CD, which I love to use to share all the documentation, charts and photos I have currently. It's a breeze to update, burn a CD and send to my relatives. (I'm the only one working on our family history at this time, but want every branch to have the information since some of their descendants may one day want to know.) Bette in GA

Betty, How does the Family History (CD) work? I have not figured out how to burn a CD on the RM. Bren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Steward" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Genealogy program > Adding my 2-cents about genealogy programs. > > I use RootsMagic. Love it's simplicity. Does everything I need it to. If > you have a question - contact them and they will answer. They have a > website http://www.rootsmagic.com./ where you can download a free > version. > I have used the creator's programs since 1990. (there was a fore-runner) > > RootsMagic introduced me to Family History CD, which I love to use to > share > all the documentation, charts and photos I have currently. It's a breeze > to > update, burn a CD and send to my relatives. (I'm the only one working on > our > family history at this time, but want every branch to have the information > since some of their descendants may one day want to know.) > > Bette in GA > > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message > to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you > receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Since you asked - I have been doing family history research for over thirty years and have tried/used all the the aforementioned genealogical software. The best kept secret that I know of is "Ancestral Quest", a superb program with all the bells and whistles, plus a very responsive and pleasant support group. They offer a free trial, so you can go see for yourselves, if you like: http://www.ancquest.com/ I have used the program for ten years now and have no financial interest in this company. Sally

Bill, You are correct. But I can't speak for the latest FTM 2005 edition. One of many reasons to leave... > Does Family Tree Maker allow one to create a reports and trees that > are GENARIC web pages and can be uploaded to ANY site. > Last time I looked they seemed to have only propritary web page > creation that only could upload to THEIR site? > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.6/33 - Release Date: 6/28/2005

I also started using Roots Magic, it's easy, but the one thing that I did wrong was trying to merge my files, I have several duplicates and haven't figure out how to delete some of them. They give several different options on how to do this, and of course I picked the wrong one, or I didn't follow directions. I think I had been using FTM 10, and it worked very good on importing onto the RM's. I like the option of having two gedcom's opened at the same time and being able to drop and add. Bren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melinda" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Genealogy program >I too have been using TMG for quite sometime and will agree that its not >the easiest program to use. For me, it was the closest program out there >that was similiar to the old "Roots" program, which was great. I picked up >FTM early on (before TMG, as a replacement for the old defunct Roots >program), but am finally rid of FTM, as I found a much better program, its >called RootsMagic. Actually surprised no one has mentioned RootsMagic. The >link to it is: http://www.rootsmagic.com/ This is a wonderfully easy >program to learn, and it has most of the bells & whistles of the more >powerful genealogical software. I added GenSmarts, as Barbara mentioned - >nice features. I might also mention Clooz - a worthy avenue of organizing >your data. That link is: http://www.clooz.com/ > > I won't quit using TMG - took me long enough to figure it out, but I do > like RootsMagic. I worthy software!!! Just my two cents worth. Melinda > >> >>However, there is a program that can be used as an add-on for either one. >>GenSmarts (www.gensmarts.com) can be used with a variety of genealogy >>programs. Its purpose is to give you (and give you access to) focused >>research suggestions, and where to find them. It knows a lot of obscure >>research data sites, and at least in TMG you can call it from within the >>program on a single individual. I have found a *lot* of data using >>GenSmarts. >><snip> >> > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.3/30 - Release Date: 6/27/2005 > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

I too have been using TMG for quite sometime and will agree that its not the easiest program to use. For me, it was the closest program out there that was similiar to the old "Roots" program, which was great. I picked up FTM early on (before TMG, as a replacement for the old defunct Roots program), but am finally rid of FTM, as I found a much better program, its called RootsMagic. Actually surprised no one has mentioned RootsMagic. The link to it is: http://www.rootsmagic.com/ This is a wonderfully easy program to learn, and it has most of the bells & whistles of the more powerful genealogical software. I added GenSmarts, as Barbara mentioned - nice features. I might also mention Clooz - a worthy avenue of organizing your data. That link is: http://www.clooz.com/ I won't quit using TMG - took me long enough to figure it out, but I do like RootsMagic. I worthy software!!! Just my two cents worth. Melinda > >However, there is a program that can be used as an add-on for either one. GenSmarts (www.gensmarts.com) can be used with a variety of genealogy programs. Its purpose is to give you (and give you access to) focused research suggestions, and where to find them. It knows a lot of obscure research data sites, and at least in TMG you can call it from within the program on a single individual. I have found a *lot* of data using GenSmarts. ><snip> > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.3/30 - Release Date: 6/27/2005

OK, here's the message I sent David: >Hi, David, > >As I said to the list, I'm responding privately so the list stays on-topic. > >Given that you already know that TMG is somewhat harder to use, TMG and Legacy are still better than FTM 2005. FTM still has many of the same old limitations, including limited types of events, poor support for citation of sources, and others. Most of what has changed is the look, along with, as you note, Web searching. > >I am not as familiar with Legacy; I've tried it and all, but I don't work in it. But it does have better source support, and it has similar or better publishing capability. > >By searching, do you mean searching for people within your data, or searching for additional genealogy info on the web? > >TMG has excellent searching (filtering) capabilities within its data. You can even search for people who have attached exhibits (what FTM calls the scrapbook), and both Legacy and TMG have extensive Web searching capabilities. In TMG you can also customize and extend the list of places to search. Legacy's places to search isn't customizable (it takes you to a web page where you can search a list provided by Millenia, the publisher), and the list of places seems sort of oddball. > >However, there is a program that can be used as an add-on for either one. GenSmarts (www.gensmarts.com) can be used with a variety of genealogy programs. Its purpose is to give you (and give you access to) focused research suggestions, and where to find them. It knows a lot of obscure research data sites, and at least in TMG you can call it from within the program on a single individual. I have found a *lot* of data using GenSmarts. > >FTM files can be read directly by TMG, though you will still want to monitor the process. (Can use GEDCOM also.) > >I am unsure if your photos transfer; I think maybe not. But if they are external files (not stored only within FTM), it's easy to hook them back up again. TMG allows you to attach a photo to any event, not just to the person or the marriage, so for instance, you can attach a copy of a birth certificate to the birth event, not the person. I don't know about photos in Legacy; I guess if GEDCOM understands them, Legacy will import them. > >With Legacy you have to use a GEDcom export. > >I can't speak for Legacy but TMG and GenSmarts both have highly responsive customer support. > >You can try either for free (GenSmarts, too). Visit www.whollygenes.com for TMG, and http://legacyfamilytree.com/ for Legacy. > >Ask if you have more questions. > >Barbara > >At 11:41 AM 6/27/2005, David wrote: >>Hi all >> >>I use Family Tree Maker 2005 and have enjoyed it's new searching >>capabilities. I have used it for over 7 years,not trying anything else, and >>of course I did have to pay for all the updates. >> >>The question I have, is: >> >>How does the new FTM 2005 compare to the TMG & Legacy programs that have >>been highly recommended in this forum,both in searching capabilities, and >>information storing and sharing? >> >>Is it easy to transfer FTM files to the TMG program? >> >>Will all the photos that I have in FTM program be transferred to the TMG >>program during the conversion? >> >>Does TMG have support from Ancestry.com and all the other resource sites FTM >>uses in it's searching mode? >> >>David >> >>-------Original Message------- >> >>From: Barbara Zanzig >>Date: 06/26/05 18:02:14 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Genealogy program >> >>Hi, Janet, >> >>I'm with [email protected]; I use TMG almost exclusively. I use Family Tree >>Maker to exchange with other people (because they have FTM) and for some >>output. >> >>In addition to what s/he said, I should say that you can simplify the >>complexity -- it has a simple and advanced mode. And you are not forced to >>use all the features. >> >>I think it's better as a research tool than as a report-producing tool. If >>your primary purpose is to share information, you are probably better off >>with a simpler program (although I would recommend Legacy over Family Tree >>Maker.) But as a research tool, it's excellent, the best on the market. >> >>Barbara >> >>At 12:38 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: >>>Hello. I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything about "Master >>>Genealogist" It is used as a reference by the National Genealogical Soc. in >>>comparing several programs. I'm not sure who or what they are referring to, >>>or how to contact them. Any help will be much appreciated. Janet Hodder, >>&gt;[email protected] >> >>Barbara Zanzig Kirkland, WA, USA >>[email protected] http://www.isomedia.com/homes/hertz/ >>"You must be the change you want to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸, At 06:20 PM 6/27/2005, Pat wrote: ><< I will respond to David privately, since this is way off topic for this >list.>> > >I am interested in any information about genealogy software and >would like to have all comments sent to the list. The subject is >"Genealogy program", so those who are not interested in the >subject can just skip over or delete the thread. >Thank you. >Pat O. Barbara Zanzig Kirkland, WA, USA [email protected] http://www.isomedia.com/homes/hertz/ "You must be the change you want to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,

<< I will respond to David privately, since this is way off topic for this list.>> I am interested in any information about genealogy software and would like to have all comments sent to the list. The subject is "Genealogy program", so those who are not interested in the subject can just skip over or delete the thread. Thank you. Pat O.

Folks - First, I apologize for the cross posting. I am trying to learn more about this specific resource. Second, I am trying to figure out the location of the documents that would have awarded this pension to Joel Downs. The source noted below is a book that was transcribed and posted on line, but the transcriptionist is a bit silent about what the number means on the far right. Myself and other researchers presume it refers to a NARA number. HOWEVER, when I was in DC about two months ago and I quickly looked for military information on this individual and found only a military roster extract for him. What intrigues me is that it says Joel Downs was on the rolls of Captain Jehiel Dayton's Company of Artillery Pliny Adam's Regiment, NY Militia. But that he was in the regiment for less than two weeks and was listed as "absent-sick" name in pre. Column cancelled. This was in Sep 1814. YET - in Ohio, everything about him refers to his being a Veteran of the War of 1812. When I found reference to his pension, I thought, maybe this will clear some things up. I have done a lot of other veteran related work, and I am a bit surprised that anyone would be so proud of service of 9 days which was spent being sick. The more I thought about it, I almost wonder if he might have served in other regiments or earlier service and that I didn't find his records. A DC based researcher went back to NARA and tried to find this record - no luck whatsoever. They found the same document I did and that was it. The Trumbull County archivists notes that they have no index that lists such a claim. They surmised that a page by page review of the Court of Common Pleas could be worthwhile. But, since he was in Warren, Trumbull County, OH, from 1818 until his death in 1862. So, a 36 year search in a few hour visit to that part of Ohio in a month does not foresee a success. So, I am asking folks if anyone is familiar with this source??? If so, could you provide some direction as to where to look for the Pension application documents?? Rod Fleck Forks, Washington <http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/state/1812/a-ea/drake-dunbar.html> http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/state/1812/a-ea/drake-dunbar.html INDEX OF AWARDS ON CLAIMS OF THE SOLDIERS OF THE WAR OF 1812 Dorsett - Drake By Holice and Debbie 8,910 Downs, Joel Warren, OH 59.00

I will respond to David privately, since this is way off topic for this list. Barbara At 11:41 AM 6/27/2005, David wrote: >. . . >The question I have, is: > >How does the new FTM 2005 compare to the TMG & Legacy programs that have >been highly recommended in this forum,both in searching capabilities, and >information storing and sharing? >. . . >David Barbara Zanzig Kirkland, WA, USA [email protected] http://www.isomedia.com/homes/hertz/ "You must be the change you want to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,

Hi all I use Family Tree Maker 2005 and have enjoyed it's new searching capabilities. I have used it for over 7 years,not trying anything else, and of course I did have to pay for all the updates. The question I have, is: How does the new FTM 2005 compare to the TMG & Legacy programs that have been highly recommended in this forum,both in searching capabilities, and information storing and sharing? Is it easy to transfer FTM files to the TMG program? Will all the photos that I have in FTM program be transferred to the TMG program during the conversion? Does TMG have support from Ancestry.com and all the other resource sites FTM uses in it's searching mode? David -------Original Message------- From: Barbara Zanzig Date: 06/26/05 18:02:14 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Genealogy program Hi, Janet, I'm with [email protected]; I use TMG almost exclusively. I use Family Tree Maker to exchange with other people (because they have FTM) and for some output. In addition to what s/he said, I should say that you can simplify the complexity -- it has a simple and advanced mode. And you are not forced to use all the features. I think it's better as a research tool than as a report-producing tool. If your primary purpose is to share information, you are probably better off with a simpler program (although I would recommend Legacy over Family Tree Maker.) But as a research tool, it's excellent, the best on the market. Barbara At 12:38 PM 6/26/2005, you wrote: >Hello. I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything about "Master >Genealogist" It is used as a reference by the National Genealogical Soc. in >comparing several programs. I'm not sure who or what they are referring to, >or how to contact them. Any help will be much appreciated. Janet Hodder, &gt;[email protected] Barbara Zanzig Kirkland, WA, USA [email protected] http://www.isomedia.com/homes/hertz/ "You must be the change you want to see in the world." -- Mahatma Gandhi ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸, ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Thank you for responding and with the web site. Judy

<< Have all the cemeteries been transcribed in this area?>> Cayuga County Cemetery List http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycayuga/cemetery.htm?o_xid=0021442955&o_lid=00214429 55&o_xt=qIpcQrCPax

Please need help.... Silas CALL and his wife Polly WHITNEY resided for a while in this area Mentz (or Montezuma or Port Byron) (and possibly some of their children lived with neighbors in the area after their father died). We are seeking his death date and of course place of death and burial place. Have all the cemeteries been transcribed in this area??? Any suggestions as to who might know for around the years 1827, 1828 and maybe 1829??? We do know he died of influenza. Thank you so much. Judy [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

Please anyone with information: Our Polly WHITNEY CALL (wife of Silas CALL); she and her husband resided for a while in Mentz/Montezuma or Port Byron, NY and had a few of their children there; for sure a son..Silas E. CALL. Silas in his Civil War affidavit recalls that after his mother (a widow) married John A. THOMPSON they traveled to different locations. We believe that John A. THOMPSON died in Steuben County, NY. 1800 census shows a John THOMPSON living in Ovid, Cayuga County, NY 1810 John THOMPSON - census shows 2 John THOMPSONs living in Mentz. John THOMPSON - census shows living in Aurelius. 1820 John THOMPSON - census living in Mentz. 1830 John THOMPSON - census living in Mentz Does anyone have any information on these John Thompsons...are any related to each other; are they all different for each year??? Thank you so much Judy [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

Hello, The Master Genealogist is a program for tracking your ancestors, like "Family Tree". You can visit their website at www.whollygenes.com to view the details. Loretta Welsh --- Janet Hodder <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello. I am wondering if anyone can tell me anything about "Master > Genealogist" It is used as a reference by the National Genealogical Soc. in > comparing several programs. I'm not sure who or what they are referring to, > or how to contact them. Any help will be much appreciated. Janet Hodder, > [email protected] > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > Loretta "Loni" Parrett Welsh Boring, Oregon, USA Researching: ASHPOLE, EVEREST, PARRO(E)TT, & SQUIRE(S) from England; and HAGEY, LIVENGOOD, & SHUCK from Germany/Switzerland __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com