This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RRB.2ACE/1324.1404.2043 Message Board Post: I have, in my possession, a copy of the Death Certificate for Albert O. Estus, husband of Ida Rastorfer. He died in Olean, NY. It shows he was born in Philadelphia, PA to John Estus and Mary Deborah. This does not hold with the legend that he later took his mother's maiden name after a falling out with his father. Another thought is that Deborah was his mother's maiden name. r/s Carl