Hi Drucilla: In response to your e-mail, which states: <Hi Edna,   Did you find the family in the 1880 Census? When and where did they go to ,,,> I couldn't find them in the 1880 census, and I looked at many, many, many pages!!! I have obits for my grandmother, MARY LONG, who married my grandfather, JOHN BUTLER, sometime in the 1860s. She was very young! Her obit says that she was born in Randolph County, New York and her Death Certificate says she was born on November 11, 1854 in New York to James Long (born Ireland) and Mary Fitzjarris (born Ireland). I have questioned the name Fitzjarris, as it isn't real clear. I did find one Fitzjarris in New York in 1850. My grandfather, JOHN Butler, was born in County Clare, Ireland on April 15, 1839 according to his obituary, and came to Sedalia in 1884. I do find them living in Sedalia in the Sedalia directory in the 1884-1885 record. I have the obit for Kathryn C. Butler which states that she was born Feb. 30, 1880 in Buffalo, New York, and the obit of Josephine Elizabeth Butler which states that she was born on April 15, 1881 in Buffalo, New York. I have tried to get a copy of the birth certificate for Josephine as Buffalo has records beginning in 1881, but they didn't find one. I have written to the Catholic Church in the Randolph area, as well as the genealogical society, but the Priest wrote me that the records were to brittle, some in Latin, and not readable. I haven't a clue when John and Mary were married, just that family stories are that she was very young, and that she still took a doll to bed with her when she was married! I have had research done in County Clare and they did find one John Butler that was born in 1839, whose father's name was John Butler. And his Death Certificate states that his mother's maiden name is "Unknown" -- so they told me that this could be my Grandfather, but also that it was only a 50% change of being the right one. Does any of this strike a note with you? I would be so happy to find someone in my Butler line. Thanks much! Edna No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. <A HREF="http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Aesop/">Aesop</A>