Is anyone on the list doing this HOLDEN FAMILY of Portville, Cattaraugus, New York? Have cousin in the UK that emailed me today re James and Christina Holden of St Helens Lancs England.. Have been trying to solve the mystery of what happened to the Christina Holden nee BRICE br abt 1811 Isle of Mna who married James Holden br 1798 St Helens, and there kids. Went on the Family Search site and found this on the 1880 america census. WHAT DO YOU THINK? Wm Holden br Eng...mother br Isle of Mann...age 38 wife Henrietta br NY age 35 with their 4 children living in Portville, Cattaraugus, New York Even says mothers birth place Isle of Man. It is only 2 years out from what we have. Can you have a search round and see what you can find? I went to the Cattaraugus Co List and started to look around and found the following.... THIS is family we are looking for :0} ..... Surnames: HOLDEN, TOOMER William HOLDEN, the son of James and Christianna HOLDEN, was born in St. Helen's, Lancashire, England, June 2, 1843. His parents emigrated to America and landed in New York on June 1, 1856, and settled in Buffalo where William learned the trade of tanning. Aug. 14, 1862, he enlisted in Co. D, 16th N. Y. Vols., and was promoted to first lieutenant, his commission being dated July 23, 1863. When discharged in 1865 he ranked as lieutenant. He received a severe wound at the siege of Port Hudson and another on the border of Texas. With his regiment he returned north and participated in the battles of Winchester, Fisher's Hill, and Cedar Creek. At the close of the war, returning home to Buffalo, he resumed his trade and in Dec., 1868, settled in Olean, where he remained five years. Since then he has lived in Portville, where he has been engaged in the grocery trade. In the spring of 1889 he was commissioned postmaster of Portville. He is a member of the Presbyterian church and one of its elders. He married Henrietta TOOMER, of Buffalo, in Sept., 1865, and they have a son and four daughters. We can add 4 of the children's names Susie Alice William Nellie The above is wrong about Wm's father coming to America....his father died.... James died 11-3-1846 Sutton St Helens.. Ron email..... my cousin can remember our grandfather saying that his grandmother came from Isle Of Man but that about all she can remember. James died in 1846 she is on the 1851 census as a widow living at Factory Row Ravenhead Plate Works with the 6 children then James there first child married 10-12-1851 James lives in Sutton all his life,but Christina disappears with the 5 children not found any more on her or any of the children the 1851 census was the last I have on her,she was 22 when she married James he was 35 big aged gap,he might have been married before but not found a marriage for him,do not now anthing on Christian not found any family for her,we thought she might have gone back to the Isle Of Man when James died,she is not on the 1881 census here or over there it is a mystery as to what happened to her and the children We have her on the 1851 as a widow with all the children from there she has disappeared they are not buried at the Cem any of them, only her son James ( my line again ) has turned up on the 1861 We can bring this line of Holdens back to 1760 in St Helens...we have soooooooooooooooooooooo much on this line that Wm Holden belongs to.... WM had siblings James 1833, Alice 1835, Elizabeth 1837 , John 1839 and Christina 1845 . Cousin Ron line comes from his brother JAMES br 1833 Anyone doing them? If no one is doing them can anyone help us with this family re info and records for marriages deaths cemeterys info..... ANY and all help appricated...I live in the US, Cousin Ron lives in Blackpool Lancs., England.....tell me what to do here and I will do it...send it over to Ron This is a fantastic find for Ron. He has been looking for his Christina Holden for yrs .... OHHHHHHHHHHHHH Ron also found in US Census 1880 JOHN HOLDEN br England mother br Isle of MANN age 38 with wife NELLIE br NY age 26 living in Buffalo, Erie, New York .....so I am off to there as we belive this is Wm's brother John br 1839 ....might find the rest of the family there in Buffalo.... What a nice supprise for a nice guy .... SLC