This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RRB.2ACE/3237.4314 Message Board Post: Wm Holdens father James did not come to the US with his wife and 4 of his 5 children....James died 11-3-1846 Sutton St Helens Lancs England.. Wm's mother Christina Holden nee BRICE/BREW was br Isle of Man 1808 married James Holden son of John Holden and Elizabeth Holden nee ALcock of Sutton St Helens...the family were glass workers Wm Holden had siblings James 1833, Alice 1835, Elizabeth 1837 , John 1839 and Christina [Anna] 1845 . All br St Helens Lancs England. Brother James did not emigrate to the US with the family..he stayed in England..he was the only child to stay in England Wm is found in the 1860 US census living in Buffalo NY Erie Co [not the spellings of both surnames..OLDEN and COOLEY..for Holden and Pooley .....this is due to the broad accent that people from the North of England had ... 1860 Ward 2 Buffalo NY Erie Cty Christina Olden 50 - $800 pers estate - Isle of Man Alice Cooley -25 - England Samuel Cooley - 22 -joiner - England Wm Olden 18 - Tanner - England John Olden - 20 - Machinist England Elizabeth Olden 22 - England Anna Olden 12 - England Elizabeth Cooley 10/12 - NY Wms sister Alice married a Samuel POOLEY br England in Buffalo NY...children were Alice 13 1867 Annie 11 1869 William 8 1872 Samuel 6 1874 Mary 2 1878 Wms sister Anna married a Dr Orrin Hall and lived in Zumbrota MN...had children Sarah , Orrin and Alice who married a James Spencer... We believe that Wm sister Elizabeth married a J Cass 1866 and lived in Buffalo.. Children were John, Mary, William, Frederick.... Wm brother John married a Nellie and lived in Buffalo NY We have the Holden line that this Wm Holden belongs to back to 1760s living in Sutton St Helens Lancs England.. Would like to find someone who is doing this Wm Holden line and share info with them....have cousin in Blackpool England that is from Wm brother James line looking for any and all info on theses family members in the US Thank you SLC