First, my apologies for sending a blank email. I get so infuriated when I do that! Second, my apologies to Judy for being so long in delaying responding to her query. I didn't find a Tammie or a Temperance. I have one Beebe, an Emma,but they didn't have any children. I have one Hancock, a Rachel, who is listed with Jabez as her father. This is the information I have on Rachel: Samuel KIBBE (5), sone of James(4) and Anna KIBBE KIBBE, was born May 21, 1753, near Somers, CT. He was married April 11, 1778, to Rachel HANCOCK. She was born October 30, 1758, the daughter of Jabes and Rachel WRIGHT HANCOCK. It is known that Jabez HANCOCK and many associated families removed to Paris, NY and it is probable that Samuel KIBBE and his wife were of this group. No further record of them has been found. Children: 1. Salma, 1778 2. Assenath, 1780 References: Connecticut Vital Records, New England Historical and Genealogical Register, V 36, P 77, re: Hancock. My source: Kibbe genealogical notes by Doreen Potter Hanna. There are several Jerusha's listed in the book. If you send me more information on Jerusha, such as spouse and children, I'll see what I can find that way. Look ups in the book are easiest when I have names, rather than places. The places just help to confirm I'm looking at the right people! I would say we have collateral lines, it's just a matter of making them meet! Merry Christmas! Annette Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:30:45 -0500 From: "SCHWAN" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NYCATTAR] prince To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I noticed the name Kibbe. We have a Jabez Hancock m Temperance Beebe in Longmeadow MA 1790 with a young daughter Tammie. Tammie marries a Kibbe - she is born 1787, so I imagine they marry 1807-12.Jabez and Temperance have moved to Paris NY; the brother of Tammie ( who marries _______ Kibbe) is also Jabez ( alt. Jabus). He moves to Boston, Erie Co/ then Yorkshire/Cattaraugus Co., where he has a family.... my husband's line is thru his daughter, Jerusha. Do any of these names fit your Kibbe - do you have collateral lines? Judy

Attn: Fredandjp - Jabez( b. 1728)and Rachel (Wright) Hancock are the parents of Jabez (b. 1753) Hancock (Jr) and Temperance Beebe. Both Jabez' are in the Longmeadow MA census of 1790. [Citations other than census: I have the article from NEGHS which details the " removed to Paris NY", also Springfield Families by Thomas Warren which details the family in MA ( Longmeadow split from Springfield in the 1780s, their records are not transcribed - the Hancock family " disappears" before they move to Paris) which cites the son Jabez still owning land in MA in 1793; and the Adah Beebe Seger Beebe, Beebee, Beeby document which covers all the Beebes of New London CT; Temperance ( Tamme) is listed as married to Jabez Hanocck Jr.) In the 1790 census they have a dau., Tammie ( who marries a Kibbe later) but the Jabez I am hunting is not born until 1793-97. If you search the Town of Paris censuses, Jabez Hancock shows up until 1810. ( This is Jabez m. Temperance.) In 1800, their son is in Boston Erie County NY, soon to be marrying Eleanor Alger and 2 children are born Boston and then 2 in Yorkshire Cattaraugus Co, NY - one of those is my husband's 2nd g-grnadmother. If you search the Beebe, Beebee, Beeby doc., you will most likely find your Rachel and Kibbes in the census of 1790. These docs ( the Springfield one and the Beebe one are .pdf and won't post ( I tried). Give me your e-mail and I will send. My problem is I have to get the Vitals of Longmeadow covering 1790s to prove birth of the other children of Jabez and Temperance. Judy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:17 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYCATTAR] NYCATTAR Digest, Vol 1, Issue 71 First, my apologies for sending a blank email. I get so infuriated when I do that! Second, my apologies to Judy for being so long in delaying responding to her query. I didn't find a Tammie or a Temperance. I have one Beebe, an Emma,but they didn't have any children. I have one Hancock, a Rachel, who is listed with Jabez as her father. This is the information I have on Rachel: Samuel KIBBE (5), sone of James(4) and Anna KIBBE KIBBE, was born May 21, 1753, near Somers, CT. He was married April 11, 1778, to Rachel HANCOCK. She was born October 30, 1758, the daughter of Jabes and Rachel WRIGHT HANCOCK. It is known that Jabez HANCOCK and many associated families removed to Paris, NY and it is probable that Samuel KIBBE and his wife were of this group. No further record of them has been found. Children: 1. Salma, 1778 2. Assenath, 1780 References: Connecticut Vital Records, New England Historical and Genealogical Register, V 36, P 77, re: Hancock. My source: Kibbe genealogical notes by Doreen Potter Hanna. There are several Jerusha's listed in the book. If you send me more information on Jerusha, such as spouse and children, I'll see what I can find that way. Look ups in the book are easiest when I have names, rather than places. The places just help to confirm I'm looking at the right people! I would say we have collateral lines, it's just a matter of making them meet! Merry Christmas! Annette Message: 3 Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 18:30:45 -0500 From: "SCHWAN" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NYCATTAR] prince To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I noticed the name Kibbe. We have a Jabez Hancock m Temperance Beebe in Longmeadow MA 1790 with a young daughter Tammie. Tammie marries a Kibbe - she is born 1787, so I imagine they marry 1807-12.Jabez and Temperance have moved to Paris NY; the brother of Tammie ( who marries _______ Kibbe) is also Jabez ( alt. Jabus). He moves to Boston, Erie Co/ then Yorkshire/Cattaraugus Co., where he has a family.... my husband's line is thru his daughter, Jerusha. Do any of these names fit your Kibbe - do you have collateral lines? Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message