This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: journeyonward Surnames: Carlin/Carlyn, Miller/Muller/Mueller Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/10480.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Caroline(Carrie)Miller was born June 1872 in Oleans, N.Y. to Jacob Miller and Margaretha(Knorr)Miller. Jacob and Margaretha came from Germany to Canada and then down into New York state. Muller/Mueller was the old German spelling of the name. There is no confirmed birth date/location/parental names for James W. Carlin. A family tree for Carrie and James was started at the LDS site by someone who has since passed away. It gives Jame's birth as about 1866 in Oleans, but I have no proof of that. I managed to track down a member of this person's family. The person involved was a member of LDS and taught genealogy classes, and they had no way of knowing why she put this on the site. They don't know of any family connection to them. Along with the info on Carrie and James, the person also submitted a family tree with members of Carrie's family included, and to my amazement also included Walter B. White as Carrie's second husband. Carrie is my Grandmother, and Walter is my grand! father. Bessie was born in Oleans, N. Y. in 1892. Carrie came to Illinois to work, and did not marry my grandfather until June 0f 1896 in Illinois. They were in Illinois for awhile, and then homesteaded in Oklahoma. Bessie lived with Carrie's mother and father in Oleans until they passed away ( Jacob in 1894 in Oleans, Margaretha in 1904 in Whiting ,Indiana while visting her son...her burial was back at home in Oleans). At the age of 12, (sometime in 1094),Bessie was put on a train in Oleans and sent to Oklahaoma to be with Carrie. Bessie always kept the name of Miller...never went by Carlin. I have chased James W. Carlin/Carlyns, etc. all over the country, but can not find a trail tying into the 1893-94 period of Oleans New York or where he came from originally. My cousins, The grandchildren of Bessie have been trying to find out about James Carlin for years. I just started family research a year ago,and have been working on the Carlin puzzle ever since, hoping I might f! ind something for them. Bessie was a grand lady who lived through The Depression,The Dustbowl, the lost of children, and the early tragic death of her husband. Any assistence you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.