This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindalearn98761234 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/10743.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: there was an ephraim woodard born 1827 son of joshua and sophia IN GENESEE CO NY. MOVED TO ORLEANS CO AT AGE 7 AND ONE YR LATER TO ERIE CO NY IN 1836 SETTLED IN OAKLAND CO MICH. LINDA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lindalearn98761234 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/2032.2597/mb.ashx Message Board Post: do you still do research i am a woodard. daughter of lawrence linda Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eomcbride Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/7401.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in knowing if his sister April was the April from Cassadaga Grade School. She was in our class through 6th grade. Sometime in 7th or 8th grade she moved away, I seem to remember she was in a foster home. She would have graduated with the 1963 class at CVCS. I'd like to get her obituary. Elizabeth Olmstead McBride Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: butchups Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/3883.4838.1.2.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, that is more than I knew. If you should ever come across anything else please pass it on. Thanks again Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lafeverm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/3883.4838.1.2.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I didn't know them personally but I did know people who did. In fact, my mother took care of your grandmother at the end of her life in the hospital. Your grandfather worked for Foss Brothers in olean. They were a wholesale food distributer. They shut the company down for his funeral. That gives you some idea how much they thought of him. There was quite a nice write up in the Olean paper regarding his death. I was told he was a very nice, honorable man who was very well liked. Your grandmother I'm told was very outgoing. She was very involved in theh local democratic party in olean. Unfortunately, i'm also told that had a drinking problem which seem to run in the family. I was always told the story that you dad sent home money while he was in the service and when he came home it was spent due to drinking. That's about all I know, and that is second hand. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: butchups Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/3883.4838.1.2.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I never heard back from him, thats OK. Can you tell me anything about them? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Ladyxena Surnames: Waldron, Cole Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/3039.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I hope you are still active and receive my message. I am Beverly Waldron, daughter of Paul Waldron who was the son of George H, and the grandson of George S.Waldron. I have not been to this site in years for which I am sorry as I could have answered this sooner. I do have the Waldron History back to England and Holland. I have a favorite name in my ancestry,it is Amanda Cole Waldron !! Please respond if you are able. Greetings from Beverly Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi all. I have the following CD, which I am willing to do some lookups from. Revolutionary War Pensions Lists, Military Records. Contains images from 12 volumes of Revolutionary War pension records. Contains information on approximately 110,000 individuals. Some types of information that "MAY" be included is… Name and Rank, Regiment and description of service, Place of residence, Nature of wounds or disability, Date of death, Occasional reference to family members. Please send any requests for a lookup from this CD directly to me at scott@lookingfordead.com Please be sure to put "Rev. War Pension Lists" in the subject line of your message. Please include the state they enlisted in and or filed in which may be the same state they died in. If you know a spouses name or birth date and or death date. Even if you are not certain that your ancestor served during the Rev. War, you may still feel free to ask for a lookup, as long as you know the person would have been of age to have served in the war. Scott Wolfe www.lookingfordead.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JeanGiesbrecht50 Surnames: Farnsworth/ Lawrence Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/10798/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Searching for Info on Anice(Annis)Farnsworth b. 1817 daughter of Thomas Farnsworth, an early seetler. She married Hiram Lawrence. I think she died in Cattaraugus Co. and he went on to Michigan. Any help appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JeanGiesbrecht50 Surnames: Judd/Seekins Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/10797/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Searching for parentage of Sylvia (b.Jan 1,1803 VT) and Rebecca (b.Dec. 1795 VT)JUDD. They both married SEEKINS brothers, Ezekiel & John, in Gennessee Co. NY and lived in Leon, Cattauragus Co.NY. Sylvia & Ezekiel both died in Cattauragus Co. Rebecca & John moved on to Iowa. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Chesham54 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/10796.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Pat, You are too good at this! I have searched for almost two months for these records. Incredibly, I find the connection between my Loring Parrish and those you mention when I call my aunt Elizabeth by her nickname, "Lizzie." Then the connections develop. I'm so new at this, that I didn't realize how many twists the name Loring could have including "Lorina" and "Loren." Thank you for your help. Kathryn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pata41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/10796.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The 1870 census for Mooers, Clinton Co. shows the family of "Latter" Parish (I think the given name is actually Luther)who has among his children a Loren, age 6, b. NY. In 1860 this family is in Schuyler Falls, Clinton Co. & the head is named Luther Parish. Also living with the family then is a Heman Parish, age 34. In 1880 in Shoreham, Addison Co., VT. there is a Loring G. Parrish, age 17, b. NY living with his mother Elizabeth, 49 & his siblings. Also with them is a Himan Parrish, age 55, listed as brother-in-law to Elizabeth. I believe this is the same family as the one on the 1860 & 1870 census in Clinton Co., NY. Elizabeth is shown as Sarah on the 1860 &`70 records but that may be her middle name. Pat R. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Chesham54 Surnames: Parrish, Carter Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.cattaraugus/10796/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm seeking information about Loring E Parrish abt 1875 and married Elizabeth Carter abt 1872 of Brooklyn, NY. I have family history Loring was born in Cattaraugus or Clinton Co. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Subject: Harvey Glasner of Toronto, Ontario will speak on "The JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry: Its Value for Family Research and Cemeteries." His talk will focus on how to obtain information on ancestors' gravestones from other cities, states and countries and how to volunteer locally to collect the data for this worldwide cemetery project. Sponsor: Jewish Genealogical Society of Buffalo Date: Sunday, November 15 at 2 p.m. Place: The Jewish Community Center, North Forest Road, Getzville, NY Guests are welcome. RSVP: 689-9670

If you're perturbed, you're perturbed; there's not much I can do about that. In my opinion - and you're totally free to disagree with it - there was nothing wrong or off topic with Mr. Samuelson's post regarding new gravestones. But then, I'm neither the list mom nor will I pretend to speak for him (or her). And if you want to ban him from the list you administer, that's your prerogative. If it's the ads on newyorkgravestones.org you find offensive, you need to realize that ads are ads are ads - short for advertisements. The definition of advertisement: ad·ver·tise·ment noun 1. a paid announcement, as of goods for sale, in newspapers or magazines, on radio or television, etc. 2. a public notice, esp. in print. 3. the action of making generally known; a calling to the attention of the public: The news of this event will receive wide advertisement. Note definition 1 - they're out to sell you something; think of it as capitalism. And putting the word "Free" in an ad is like waving a red flag in front of a bull. Never assume anything is "free". I've dealt with sampubco. So he sells information; lots of people do. The question isn't "Can I get the information sold there elsewhere?" because you can. The question is "How much is it going to cost me to get the information for free?" There's actually enough information posted on the sampubco site so you can find the information elsewhere. There's just a lot of grunt work to do. And grunts typically don't work for free. Bill p.s. my spam filter blocked your reply; I haven't quite figured out why. On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 13:30 -0800, Daniel David Lewis Frommherz (1) wrote: >  > Bill I am perturbed by this especially when the ad comes in the guise > of a subscriber to anylist@rootsweb.com there is no need to have this > garbage and as I told Mr. Samualsen his email usually ends of with > costing someone some money to get his information. This is what > sampubco is all about. It is his business to sell information. I > have banned him from my admin lists and I have blocked him from > contacting me personally. I also warn folks who write me asking for > info which is generally free if they ask for how to find it. > > Daniel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Hart > To: nycattar@rootsweb.com > Cc: Daniel David Lewis Frommherz (1) > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:00 AM > Subject: Re: [NYCATTAR] More gravemarker photos since Sept 28 > > > There's another thing worth mentioning about these ads. > > Although I don't know if it's true in this case, I know scores > of websites covering a variety of subjects that accept this > type advertising as a method of keeping their content free. > > Neither websites nor maintaining them come without cost. > Whenever someone clicks on one of those ads, the website gets > paid some set amount. I'm all for free content. And if I > have to click on ad ot two every now and again I certainly > have no problems with that. > > Bill Hart > > > > Previous emails deleted subject line changed

I have to say in defense of Mr. Samuelson, that his site enabled me to find the Will for my ggggrandfather who I had been looking for for a long time. It listed all his family members, etc. which was so very helpful. I never would have known half that info if I hadn't bought it from his site. I also got a copy of his last wife's Will which listed a child that I didn't know he had. I think you are being too harsh about this situation. Sure I would rather get items free; but, I would never have been able to find this info on my own. Linda Hooker Lathrop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel David Lewis Frommherz (1)" <daniel_lewis_frommherz@mckenzievalleymarket.com> To: <bill.hart@mscsoftware.com>; <nycattar@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 1:30 PM Subject: [NYCATTAR] emails and ads for something that will cost the membersof this list Bill I am perturbed by this especially when the ad comes in the guise of a subscriber to anylist@rootsweb.com there is no need to have this garbage and as I told Mr. Samualsen his email usually ends of with costing someone some money to get his information. This is what sampubco is all about. It is his business to sell information. I have banned him from my admin lists and I have blocked him from contacting me personally. I also warn folks who write me asking for info which is generally free if they ask for how to find it. Daniel

Bill I am perturbed by this especially when the ad comes in the guise of a subscriber to anylist@rootsweb.com there is no need to have this garbage and as I told Mr. Samualsen his email usually ends of with costing someone some money to get his information. This is what sampubco is all about. It is his business to sell information. I have banned him from my admin lists and I have blocked him from contacting me personally. I also warn folks who write me asking for info which is generally free if they ask for how to find it. Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Hart To: nycattar@rootsweb.com Cc: Daniel David Lewis Frommherz (1) Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [NYCATTAR] More gravemarker photos since Sept 28 There's another thing worth mentioning about these ads. Although I don't know if it's true in this case, I know scores of websites covering a variety of subjects that accept this type advertising as a method of keeping their content free. Neither websites nor maintaining them come without cost. Whenever someone clicks on one of those ads, the website gets paid some set amount. I'm all for free content. And if I have to click on ad ot two every now and again I certainly have no problems with that. Bill Hart Previous emails deleted subject line changed

Bill Hart wrote: > There's another thing worth mentioning about these ads. > > Although I don't know if it's true in this case, I know scores of > websites covering a variety of subjects that accept this type > advertising as a method of keeping their content free. > > Neither websites nor maintaining them come without cost. Whenever > someone clicks on one of those ads, the website gets paid some set > amount. I'm all for free content. And if I have to click on ad ot two > every now and again I certainly have no problems with that. > > Bill Hart All I can say, thank you! David Samuelsen

There's another thing worth mentioning about these ads. Although I don't know if it's true in this case, I know scores of websites covering a variety of subjects that accept this type advertising as a method of keeping their content free. Neither websites nor maintaining them come without cost. Whenever someone clicks on one of those ads, the website gets paid some set amount. I'm all for free content. And if I have to click on ad ot two every now and again I certainly have no problems with that. Bill Hart On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 23:58 -0700, W. David Samuelsen wrote: > Very clear you do NOT understand the role of the ads. These ads are NOT > what requires you to do it. Next time you visit, you will see complete > different sets of ads and that one you complained the loudest about will > not even be there. > > Rootsweb will tell you they do it too. Worldconnect which is part of > Rootsweb has the ads and they don't require you to click on them, > either. The home page of Rootsweb even have same Google ads, too. They > do NOT require you to click on these ads. > > There is absolute NOTHING requiring you to click on those small Google ads! > > Those little ads are even all over on Ancestry.com, the OWNER of > Rootsweb. This has been going on for over 7 years now. > > It's everywhere! Even your favorite online newspaper has them. > > These little ads are backed by big companies willing to pay $$ to place > them. Nothing is required from you to do it. The money from them go to > help keep this site FREE access to all. > > and based on your complaint, you will have to BAN Rootsweb/Ancestry.com > mailing lists, ban Footnote.com, ban findagrave.com, ban > WorldVitalRecords.com - all because of the little Google ads FROM YOUR BOX. > > PS, Rootsweb staff (in fact it is same staff as Ancestry.com) already > visited these sites and many other sites and APPROVED and allowed for > mere announcements in the interest of the genealogy. > > David Samuelsen > > Daniel David Lewis Frommherz (1) wrote: > > As the admin for several lists. I am deeply disappointed in the > > contents of this email. It says free death search of ancestor but what > > you get is a required registration of $29.95 cheaper than a Private > > Detective it says. What a load why is this allowed on the Rootsweb.com > > list. I am sending a complaint to Rootsweb.com immediately this type of > > thing isn't in keeping with what Rootsweb.com is all about. > > > > RE: To Rootsweb.com Help Desk and the Admin of Cattaraugus County: > > > > On the list for Cattaraugus County tonight I opened a message from > > Sampubco that indicated searches of Cemeteries. In the bottom left > > corner is an advertisement for death searches it says free but it is not > > free it requires at minimum of $29.95 to get any information beyond the > > name and even that is ambiguous. there is nothing on their search page > > that would even indicate if this person was actually found. This is a > > complaint also being filed with the Admin of Cattaraugus County, New > > York. I can tell you folks on this list that as the admin of several > > lists if Sampubco had tried this it would be considered SPAM and I would > > delete it and mark them Persona Non Grata forever. > > > > Daniel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCATTAR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Very clear you do NOT understand the role of the ads. These ads are NOT what requires you to do it. Next time you visit, you will see complete different sets of ads and that one you complained the loudest about will not even be there. Rootsweb will tell you they do it too. Worldconnect which is part of Rootsweb has the ads and they don't require you to click on them, either. The home page of Rootsweb even have same Google ads, too. They do NOT require you to click on these ads. There is absolute NOTHING requiring you to click on those small Google ads! Those little ads are even all over on Ancestry.com, the OWNER of Rootsweb. This has been going on for over 7 years now. It's everywhere! Even your favorite online newspaper has them. These little ads are backed by big companies willing to pay $$ to place them. Nothing is required from you to do it. The money from them go to help keep this site FREE access to all. and based on your complaint, you will have to BAN Rootsweb/Ancestry.com mailing lists, ban Footnote.com, ban findagrave.com, ban WorldVitalRecords.com - all because of the little Google ads FROM YOUR BOX. PS, Rootsweb staff (in fact it is same staff as Ancestry.com) already visited these sites and many other sites and APPROVED and allowed for mere announcements in the interest of the genealogy. David Samuelsen Daniel David Lewis Frommherz (1) wrote: > As the admin for several lists. I am deeply disappointed in the > contents of this email. It says free death search of ancestor but what > you get is a required registration of $29.95 cheaper than a Private > Detective it says. What a load why is this allowed on the Rootsweb.com > list. I am sending a complaint to Rootsweb.com immediately this type of > thing isn't in keeping with what Rootsweb.com is all about. > > RE: To Rootsweb.com Help Desk and the Admin of Cattaraugus County: > > On the list for Cattaraugus County tonight I opened a message from > Sampubco that indicated searches of Cemeteries. In the bottom left > corner is an advertisement for death searches it says free but it is not > free it requires at minimum of $29.95 to get any information beyond the > name and even that is ambiguous. there is nothing on their search page > that would even indicate if this person was actually found. This is a > complaint also being filed with the Admin of Cattaraugus County, New > York. I can tell you folks on this list that as the admin of several > lists if Sampubco had tried this it would be considered SPAM and I would > delete it and mark them Persona Non Grata forever. > > Daniel