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    1. [NYCATTAR] Dutcher Family
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dutcher Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6038 Message Board Post: I have traced my Dutcher line back to 1830 Cattarugus County, Randolph Township but can't seem to find any information on this Dutcher line there. It looks like maybe two of his children were born there. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thomas Dutcher b. about 1805 NY married Aohsoh b. 1807 NY They had two children born in NY Candace Amanda Dutcher b. 1832 NY Jason Dutcher b. 1836 NY the other children where born in Ohio so these are the only two I am looking for information on. I am guessing that they where born in Catt. County since he is living there on the 1830 Federal census but I could be wrong. Any help or leads that anyone might have are greatly appreciated.

    12/30/2002 06:07:56
    1. [NYCATTAR] Babcock
    2. Brenda
    3. Which Babcock's do you descend from? Where did they live, etc? I am researching BABCOCK... Brenda

    12/29/2002 11:35:59
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: AB Dickinson
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RRB.2ACE/2405.1 Message Board Post: Which Mersereau are you referring to?

    12/29/2002 10:03:58
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Dutch Hill War
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LEARN, KELLER, SHAFER, BABCOCK, MOYER, BOSSERT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/2699.2930 Message Board Post: I have quite a bit of information about the Dutch Hill War. I descend from both Jacob and George LEARN who were participants in the "war." I also descend from other families in the area--SHAFER, KELLER, and BABCOCK. Since your message was posted some time ago, are you still looking for info?

    12/29/2002 08:31:45
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Raub
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LEARN, SHAFER, SHAFFER, KELLER, BABCOCK, BOSSERT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/2699.2929.1.2 Message Board Post: Check the Northampton and Monroe County (which was formerly Northampton County) Pennsylvania websites as that is where the Raubs came from. Several families from that area migrated to Cattaragus County around the same time. Among them were my ancestors from the Learn, Keller and Shafer/Shaffer families.

    12/29/2002 08:24:01
    1. [NYCATTAR] ephraim and john fitch
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6037 Message Board Post: am trying to find cemetary records of ephraim fitch ,,who came to cattaraugus co. in 1814 and had son son ephraim in 1817(our records say first white baby born in county???) and records of his father capt john fitch who was in george washingtons body guard unit ' the forlorn hope'.....i believe he is also buried in this area as he was living with ephraim,,,,ephraim died1865,,john died 1824?

    12/28/2002 04:16:35
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Wrights in Gowanda
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RRB.2ACE/2709.2907.1 Message Board Post: I have a Wallace Wright who married a Caroline Hoisington in my tree. Though originally from Gowanda NY area Wallace moved to Michigan or Wisconsin. My Wallace was born about 1857. Have been unable to discover if he and caroline had any children. Email me and we can compare what info we have to see if we have a connection. Bob

    12/27/2002 11:15:39
    1. [NYCATTAR] Joseph Hoover died in Allegany, NY & wife Margaret Miller
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hoover, Miller Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6036 Message Board Post: Hi, Looking for Joseph Hoover b- 2-15-1833 Hamburg, Erie Co, NY died 8-15-1909 Allegany, NY (buried here also) Also he married on 7-4-1861 Margaret Miller b-5-11-1843 in Dunkirk, Chautaugua Co, NY and died 11-20-1920 in Olean, NY (buried Allegany, NY) I already applied for Margaret's death Cert from Olean. How do I apply for Joseph's death cert in Allegany. Is that a town or a village? Do I write to the Town Clerk, Allegany, NY, or what? Is there a phone number for allegany? Thanking you in advance, Mike Tavenner from Florida

    12/27/2002 05:56:11
    1. [NYCATTAR] NE Census Maps
    2. Neat maps of US census areas availible & missing for all years It also has links for indidvidual states in the noththeast with individual census and county formation maps. http://www.negenealogy.com/ngo03.htm

    12/27/2002 04:48:12
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Rathburn Chapman 1846-1911 and Martha L. (?) Chapman 1852-1928 HELP!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6031.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks again! I found Johnathan Chapman the same age (b. abt. 1818) in Vermont with wife Celinda (?) Chapman living in Leon per the 1880 census. Olive must have died and he remarried. With them is daughter Mary E., age 30 and a son Franklin, age 17 years. G. Gardner

    12/26/2002 11:43:27
    1. [NYCATTAR] FOIA Records Assistance - UPDATE
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lawler, Gilman, Trow, Sumner Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6035 Message Board Post: Good Searching Fellow Genealogists! The Freedom of Information Act is available to everyone. The request is free but it can be very confusing. You have to know where to send it, you have to have the right request form, a properly worded letter, you have to know what type of information they need to get you what you are looking for. You cannot just send in a generic "find this" request. I found a way to use FOIA in genealogy to request records that actually results in moving your search along. In my every day professional legal work I use the FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) to acquire records from all areas. Using the proper request, the proper form, a properly worded letter you will get the documentation you are seeking. I received 84 pages in the first probate request, two weeks later, an additional 124 pages. All stuff they copied from microfiche. At $ .10 per page. Some of these records went back to 1838! I will send you the forms (both State! and Federal), sample request letters, what you need to send them in terms of specifics, if you have them, or if not, where and how to find them. I have compiled a list of each State’s statutes and codes that you will need to reformat the request form for your particular State or the State you are sending the request to. I have included some specific searching directions and examples that may help you. For those of us who have been unable to get to an out-of-town location or to afford a researcher it's great. My email is klawler@batorberlin.com. Don’t use the email this posting was sent from. Although I have received hundreds of emails thanking me for this information, a few people have objected and my email addresses are continually deactivated. I have appealed this and anticipate reactivation any day. But for now, if you are interested in this information, just follow the directions below. I will be happy to help anyone with any additional information or reformatting the forms for other states, other data requests, etc. Any other requests for help, I will send a form. I am requesting $6.58 for paper, copying, staples, large envelope and postage costs. This package of information is 22+ pages (and growing) -- and I had no idea this would be responded to in such huge numbers (!!). So, if you’re interested, send $6.58 in cash or check [Kathy Lawler] to Genealogy Princess, 20757 Camden Square, #210, Lathrup Village, MI 48076 or use my Paypal address [checking] for $7.00 to klawler@batorberlin.com. Either way, don’t forget your address!! I will send you the information the very day I receive your address and funds. Lastly, additional information, new ways I can come up with to use FOIA will be sent to you free of charge and I’ll also be happy to answer any questions you may have. Be assured that I am not making any database o! f addresses or anything, I promise not to ever, ever sell your name and address to anyone. This is strictly to get you information that will help you gather documents and information to further your search for your ancestors. Very lastly, I have a larger bunch of information in my “FOIA IN GENEALOGY WORKS! on Ebay. Check that out! Thanks! Kathleen Lawler

    12/26/2002 07:28:08
    1. [NYCATTAR] Fadilia Barnes in Olean NY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Barnes, Gleason Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6034 Message Board Post: Looking for info on Fadilia Barnes who lived in Olean, Cattaraugus county, NY sometime around 1900. Picture I have of her she has a long dress on. Family may still be around the area. Thank you

    12/26/2002 07:04:57
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Rathburn Chapman 1846-1911 and Martha L. (?) Chapman 1852-1928 HELP!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RRB.2ACE/6031.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, here are the Cahpman census records, misspellings & all! I think John & Welcome might be brothers, sons of Welson/Wilson. Pat 1850 census, NY state, Cattaraugus Co., town of Leon, pg. 37. Aug. 12. John A. Chapman, age 30, b. VT., farmer Olive “ 26 VT. Susan E. 7 Jonistan R. 4 Mary E. 7 mo. children all born NY. 1850 census, NY state, Cattaraugus Co., town of Conewango, pg. 77., Sept.3. Welson Chapman, age 75, b. Mass. Farmer. Rhoda “ 74 Mass. Welcome, 28, VT. Farmer, real estate value: $250. Olivia 22 NY Ezra W. 6 Hardin 2 Jeremiah 1 mo. children all b. NY 1870 census, NY state, town of Leon, pg. 284. Aug. 17. Chapman, Jothant(?), age 52, b. VT., farmer, value of real estate:$4,640. Olive, age 48, keeping house b. VT. Rathbone J.24, farmer b.NY Mary E., 20, b. NY Hiram H., 13, b. NY Benjamin, 9, b. NY

    12/26/2002 01:36:14
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Rathburn Chapman 1846-1911 and Martha L. (?) Chapman 1852-1928 HELP!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6031.1.1 Message Board Post: Pat, thanks a bunch! This is very interesting to me. I had found Wilson Chapman and Rhoda listed at the Morman site with his name given as "Jonathan" Wilson Chapman. Could this name be a mixup of these two?? Welcome Chapman was his son. He also married an Olive and then a Rhoda. Just to confuse us later probably. Anyway, I had thought Rathburn fit nicely as one of Welcome's children, but now I see it differently. Welcome's parents and Rathburn's were living in different places at the same time here in Catt. Co. so they couldn't have been the same folks. Still the names are so similar and since family members often located near each other I still think they are all related somehow. I don't subscribe to Ancestry so if you'd care to copy the info for me I'd be grateful. Thanks again! G. Gardner

    12/26/2002 12:19:36
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Rathburn Chapman 1846-1911 and Martha L. (?) Chapman 1852-1928 HELP!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RRB.2ACE/6031.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I think the 1880 census record below is your Rathburn Chapman. I haven`t looked at the actual census page but I`ll bet it was difficult to read & this was the result of the transcriber`s efforts to decipher it! In 1870 Rathburn ( spelled Rathbone) is in Leon with his parents, Johnathan(?) & Olive. This couple is in Leon ( with Jonathan spelled plain John) on the 1850 census with a four year old Jonisturn(?) R. Welcome Chapman is in Conewango in 1850 with his parents Wilson or Welson & Rhoda; he`s married with three children, no Rathburn, though. If you have the Ancestry census subscription, check 1850 Leon, pg. 37( image # 1), 1870 Leon, pg. 284( image # 15) & 1850 Conewango, pg 77 ( image # 12). If you don`t have the sub., let me know & I`ll type them up for you. Merry Christmas. Pat R. 1880 Census Place: Conewango, Cattaraugus, New York Source: FHL Film 1254811 National Archives Film T9-0811 Page 108C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Groftman CHANNAN Self M M W 34 NY Occ: Farmer Fa: NY Mo: NY Martha CHANNAN Wife F M W 28 NY Occ: Keep House Fa: NY Mo: NY Cora CHANNAN Dau F S W 1 NY Fa: NY Mo: NY

    12/25/2002 03:08:37
    1. [NYCATTAR] William Albert Drakes family!!!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6033 Message Board Post: William married Roxanna about 1850 somewhere in NY.looking for their parents!!! Also born in NY.

    12/23/2002 02:17:23
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Elijah, Olive, and Francis (Male) Sowl from WI and NY
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RRB.2ACE/5736.1 Message Board Post: Greeting from a true "Sowl"! My mother wants to know which Bill Sowl you are and what's your address. Did you ever meet Frank and Juliette Sowl from Argyle, WI? Their address is P.O Box 181, 53504 They would like to hear from you!

    12/22/2002 10:49:47
    1. [NYCATTAR] Dorr
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Alger,Huff, Schuster Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6032 Message Board Post: Need any data on John & Mary Dorr of T. of Allegany about 1865 time period.

    12/21/2002 04:00:52
    1. [NYCATTAR] Rathburn Chapman 1846-1911 and Martha L. (?) Chapman 1852-1928 HELP!
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RRB.2ACE/6031 Message Board Post: Does anyone have any more information on this couple? They are buried in the Rutledge Cemetery, Conewango, NY. Rathburn was not listed in the 1880 Census. In 1920 his widow Martha was living with her son Charles J. Chapman and his family in Leon, Catt. Co. I would like to know where Charles and his wife Flossie are buried if anyone can help. Also looking for Rathburn's parents. Was he a son of Welcome Chapman also buried in Rutledge Cemetery? His birth year would fit in the list of his children, but perhaps he was related in another way??? G. Gardner

    12/20/2002 12:48:22
    1. [NYCATTAR] Re: Gruhn aka Gruen aka Green
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/RRB.2ACE/2799.1.1.1 Message Board Post: June, Our family came through NY (and San Fran) but settled in San Francisco and surrounding areas. We are all in merchant businesses and from what I can gather were somewhat prosperous in whatever businesses conducted pre-US immigration. SOrry I have no more to go on. Alexandra

    12/20/2002 10:00:41