It's important to note a huge negative change for NYC records on FamilySearch.  When they ended the microfilm service and digitized the records, they ended access at FHL affiliated libraries.  I had been able to order microfilm and view and print certs at my local public library.  After digitization, for a few weeks I could see the certs on a computer at my library.  That ended fast.  Now you have to go to an actual FHL to see the records--not affiliates.  The one nearest me is actually far away and is only open two days a week.  This has been a catastrophe for my research and I'm sure for many others.  Virginia From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch True true. But for those who do not have a need or desire or are doing research on sidelines like siblings of grandparents etc. the solution I mention is sufficient. Most of these old records do have place of death and cause of death. Merry Christmas Robert Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Dec 17, 2017, at 05:05, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > There  is  a radical  difference  between  seeing  a  digitized  record as  opposed  to  the  actual  cert. > The  digitized  record  is  far  from  complete.  i.e  no  cause  of  death..Has  ghome  address  rather > than  place  pf  death  for  my  ancetors > > **************************************************************************************************************** > > > They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be > viewed in ANY FH > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Dec 17, 2017 12:12 am > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch > > They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be > viewed in ANY FHC. > To check it out, go online at home (or anywhere) and go to the film > listing. On the right side of the film there is a camera if the documents > are digitized. If there is a key over the camera, their contractual > agreements with the vendor of the documents will not allow them to be > viewed online except in the FHC or FHL or family history affiliated > library. If there is no key over the camera, those can be viewed anywhere. > Gail > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > >> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:05 PM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: >> >> What state do you use a FHC where they have NYC certs? >> Not every FHC has access to NYC certs. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> >> Lisa and everyone else. >> Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the >> beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on >> microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you >> have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. >> With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I >> take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, >> https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. >> I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open >> the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am >> there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. >> As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be >> busy for awhile >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did not realize that affiliated libraries lost access. Fingers crossed that this is just until they work out copyright issues. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Dec 19, 2017, at 09:28, VLB <vlbcfb@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It's important to note a huge negative change for NYC records on FamilySearch. When they ended the microfilm service and digitized the records, they ended access at FHL affiliated libraries. I had been able to order microfilm and view and print certs at my local public library. After digitization, for a few weeks I could see the certs on a computer at my library. That ended fast. Now you have to go to an actual FHL to see the records--not affiliates. The one nearest me is actually far away and is only open two days a week. This has been a catastrophe for my research and I'm sure for many others. Virginia > > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch > > True true. > But for those who do not have a need or desire or are doing research on sidelines like siblings of grandparents etc. the solution I mention is sufficient. > Most of these old records do have place of death and cause of death. > Merry Christmas Robert > Gail > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > >> On Dec 17, 2017, at 05:05, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> There is a radical difference between seeing a digitized record as opposed to the actual cert. >> The digitized record is far from complete. i.e no cause of death..Has ghome address rather >> than place pf death for my ancetors >> >> **************************************************************************************************************** >> >> >> They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be >> viewed in ANY FH >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> >> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sun, Dec 17, 2017 12:12 am >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch >> >> They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be >> viewed in ANY FHC. >> To check it out, go online at home (or anywhere) and go to the film >> listing. On the right side of the film there is a camera if the documents >> are digitized. If there is a key over the camera, their contractual >> agreements with the vendor of the documents will not allow them to be >> viewed online except in the FHC or FHL or family history affiliated >> library. If there is no key over the camera, those can be viewed anywhere. >> Gail >> >> ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ >> >>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:05 PM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>> What state do you use a FHC where they have NYC certs? >>> Not every FHC has access to NYC certs. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> >>> Lisa and everyone else. >>> Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the >>> beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on >>> microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you >>> have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. >>> With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I >>> take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, >>> https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. >>> I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open >>> the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am >>> there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. >>> As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be >>> busy for awhile >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message