My best guess is "Unknown." -----Original Message----- >From: nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com >Sent: Aug 31, 2017 9:00 PM >To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 12, Issue 174 > >Send NYC-ROOTS mailing list submissions to > nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists2.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/nyc-roots >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > nyc-roots-owner@rootsweb.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of NYC-ROOTS digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. UN on 1930 Census (Frances Brunner) > 2. Re: UN on 1930 Census (Tom Maloney) > 3. Re: UN on 1930 Census (Frances Brunner) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 00:50:16 +0000 >From: Frances Brunner <FranceBrun@hotmail.com> >To: "nyc-roots@rootsweb.com" <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] UN on 1930 Census >Message-ID: > <DM5PR14MB1785BAAB739B48971C4AA7A6D9920@DM5PR14MB1785.namprd14.prod.outlook.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >Hi, > >I'm looking at the 1930 Census for a relative of mine. > >Column 22 is year of immigration to the U.S. > >Column 23 is Naturalization > >According to the guide for enumerators, and what I can see on the form: > >Pa is for first papers > >NA is for naturalized > >Al is for alien > > >Unfortunately for me, that box on my relative's form says Un. > > >Now, I have his declaration of intent filed in 1926, so it should say either Pa or Na. > > >Does anyone have any idea of what this could mean? > >It's particularly important to me because there is no trace whatsoever of this guy after the 1930 Census. He was living in the part of Great Neck which became the Merchant Marine Academy a few years later, so he would have had to have moved, whether he wanted to or not. But truly there is no trace of him after this, and I think he may have gone back to Lithuania. > >I might have put this on the back burner, but I have four new cousins who seem to be the result of an affair between one of my male Lithuanian relatives and their grandmother. They'd like to know who their bio grandfather was, so I'm tracing my ggfather's brothers one by one. This man could conceivably have had a son who could be their grandfather. I've traced, or had someone, all of the brothers but two. > > >Any ideas would be warmly welcomed. > >Thanks, > >Frances > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Qui vit sans folie n'est pas si sage qu'il croit. >~Francois de La Rochefoucault > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:04:03 -0400 >From: Tom Maloney <thomas.d.maloney@gmail.com> >To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] UN on 1930 Census >Message-ID: > <CAFwYpNqAGTKmDRf5Y1uOzP5OGhj348-3Mb_e6xH8MrxBuEcJgA@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >Frances, > >It may mean unknown. Perhaps a family member or neighbor supplied the >information to the enumerator and they simply had no idea about his status. > >TM > >On Aug 31, 2017 8:50 PM, "Frances Brunner" <FranceBrun@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Hi, > >I'm looking at the 1930 Census for a relative of mine. > >Column 22 is year of immigration to the U.S. > >Column 23 is Naturalization > >According to the guide for enumerators, and what I can see on the form: > >Pa is for first papers > >NA is for naturalized > >Al is for alien > > >Unfortunately for me, that box on my relative's form says Un. > > >Now, I have his declaration of intent filed in 1926, so it should say >either Pa or Na. > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2017 03:59:55 +0000 >From: Frances Brunner <FranceBrun@hotmail.com> >To: "nyc-roots@rootsweb.com" <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] UN on 1930 Census >Message-ID: > <DM5PR14MB17852FAA17BDF9DAB3DA2F20D9920@DM5PR14MB1785.namprd14.prod.outlook.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > >Tom: >That makes a lot of sense! Thanks! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Qui vit sans folie n'est pas si sage qu'il croit. >~Francois de La Rochefoucault >________________________________ >From: NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots-bounces+francebrun=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Tom Maloney <thomas.d.maloney@gmail.com> >Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:04:03 PM >To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] UN on 1930 Census > >Frances, > >It may mean unknown. Perhaps a family member or neighbor supplied the >information to the enumerator and they simply had no idea about his status. > >TM > >On Aug 31, 2017 8:50 PM, "Frances Brunner" <FranceBrun@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Hi, > >I'm looking at the 1930 Census for a relative of mine. > >Column 22 is year of immigration to the U.S. > >Column 23 is Naturalization > >According to the guide for enumerators, and what I can see on the form: > >Pa is for first papers > >NA is for naturalized > >Al is for alien > > >Unfortunately for me, that box on my relative's form says Un. > > >Now, I have his declaration of intent filed in 1926, so it should say >either Pa or Na. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------ > >Subject: Digest Footer > >To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >------------------------------ > >End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 12, Issue 174 >******************************************