Mary Ann, I found some of what you found but you found more and the more is exactly what I need!! I will contact St Matthew's by snail mail tomorrow. Fingers crossed that they have the marriage records and that it lists the town in Germany my second great grandparents were from!! Thanks again, Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:18 PM, <mmooney17@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > Hi Gail, I googled "CFE Stohlman minister and got: > > http://thehistorybox.com/ny_city/nycity_worship_lutheran_ > church_brief__history_article00575.htm > > When St. Matthew's Church was sold in 1826, as before stated, it was > purchased by an individual, who sold it in a few days after to the German > congregation of the "Swamp Church." Having thus two houses of worship, an > attempt was made to form as English Lutheran congregation in St. Matthew's > Church, while preaching in the German language was continued in the Swamp > Church; and to effect this, the Rev. F.W. Geissenhainer, Jr., was called to > officiate in the English language in St. Matthew's Church his father > remaining with the German congregation in the "Swamp Church." But the > experiment did not succeed well, and after about four years the Swamp > Church was sold, as before stated, and the German congregation removed to > St. Matthew's Church, the service being conducted interchangeably in German > and English. This arrangement continued a few years, when, the English > congregation dwindling away, the service in German was introduced entire. > On the death of Dr. Geissenhainer, in 1838, the Rev. C.F.E. Stohlman was > elected as his successor, to officiate in the German language, and has > continued to labor with increasing success to the present day. > > In 1842, Mr. Geissenhainer, Jr., resigned his charge in St. Matthew's > Church, and commenced a new enterprise in the Sixth Avenue. A house of > worship was erected at the corner of Fifteenth street, and a congregation > gathered there. It is styled "The Evangelical Lutheran Church." > > There are some more detailed paragraphs in this interesting internet site. > It is an old write-up and you will find more useable information from this > site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Lutheran_Church_ > of_St._Matthew_(New_York_City) {I googled St. Mathew's Church, New York > City} > > The Evangelical Lutheran Church of St. Matthew is the oldest Lutheran > congregation in North America. The congregation is a member of the Lutheran > Church–Missouri Synod. Since 2006, the congregation has been located at the > Cornerstone Center, 178 Bennett Avenue in Manhattan, New York City. The > congregation has been known by different names, only acquiring the name St. > Matthew in 1822 and using it exclusively since 1838.[ > > Gail, you can contact the current church, and if that does not get what > you want, then contact the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod directly. I > vaguely remember contacting them years and they were very helpful. Those > are truly historic old records and their Church archivist/historian will > know where they are. > Good luck, Mary Ann > > > ---- Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> wrote: > > Through a New York City record I found the marriage of my second great > grandparents in 1863 in New York City performed by Rev CFE Stohlman. > > I looked on Ancestry and it does not look like church records for this > area and time period appear to be one of their holdings. > > I know how to search and find Catholic records in New York City for > marriages but have no idea how to find these German Lutheran church > records. Does anyone here have any idea about who to contact? > > Thanks and advance, > > Gail Jorgensen > > > > > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >