It's quite possible to publicly distort suicide. It happens 24 times per day with US veterans. -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith <villandra@gmail.com> To: Barbara Kiersh <barkie@bellsouth.net>; nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: metronycancestry <metronycancestry@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Mar 30, 2018 11:19 am Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Re: Fwd: Re: gender question 1. It's impossible to "distort" suicide. That's genealogical evidence of a serious and often genetic health problem. It NEEDS to be in the family history. Often families don't hand down or tell their children of critical health history, like, say, a history of bipolar disorder, which often without that information takes a very long time to get a proper diagnosis. It happened to me. 2. If someone changed gender, put in the notes that they changed gender. It's too comical that our software needs a way to specify a change in gender, now. And, it needs a method to specify that "delicately". If he changed gender, he changed gender. There aren't two ways to put it. If people can't handle having the genealogy say they changed gender, how are they going to handle the people around them. Always just tell the truth. Genealogy isn't any place for the squeamish! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And don't tell me I'm whatever, because I'm done arguing about it. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Barbara Kiersh Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:10 AM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Cc: metronycancestry@aol.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Re: Fwd: Re: gender question I agree that this is a very delicate issue. It's a problem for genealogists down the family tree. In some way, there should be, at least, a note of gender change. When searching for an individual, you might come across a couple that had two children, a boy and a girl. Just an example. Later the boy has disappeared and records show the couple having two girls. Where did the second girl come from and what happened to the boy? Barbara On Friday, March 30, 2018 7:39 AM, metronycancestry--- via NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: ...and, I think this topic requires sensitivity by family searchers . For example, if an ancestor committed suicide, you might refrain from posting that in any public tree. What you view as significant information can be distorted by "tree readers." -----Original Message----- From: metronycancestry--- via NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Transgender people identify with their chosen gender, not their birth gender. From: Lynne Kemp <dent_48@hotmail.com> Lisa, I think if you put the name he is using now and (birth name) in brackets it will indicate the birth gender unless the name was not obviously feminine. In the sex column, put the gender that he now identifies with.