On May 31, 2015, at 7:53 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late 1800's? > (Joyce Presnall) > 2. Re: Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late 1800's? > (Irene Salazar) > 3. Re: Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late 1800's? (VLB) > 4. Re: Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late 1800's? (VLB) > 5. Death Certificate from the DOH (Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor) > 6. Re: Death Certificate from the DOH (Robert Pieterse) > 7. Re: Death Certificate from the DOH > (Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 10:29:57 -0700 > From: Joyce Presnall <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late > 1800's? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have a picture just labeled "Mrs Fleury" and I think I know who it may be > but am not 100% sure. This lady MAY have been a business woman in that > time period and that MAY be affecting the fact that I cannot find anything > similar to her style of dress on site I find on google. > > If anyone is good at dating NYC women's dress late 1800's to early1900's > (she died 1909) please let me know. I can show you a copy of this picture > off list. > > I don't even know what is in fashion NOW, no less what was in fashion a > century or more ago LOL > MY idea of fashion is Blue Jeans and a T-shirt--or a nice blouse to go > out...I'm in the Pacific Northwest--everybody here wears jeans for > everything--even in some of the nicer restaurants--(as long as jeans are > fairly new and not faded LOL) > > Thx for any help... > > Joyce > > -- > Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, > Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, > Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, > Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, > Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, > Norton, Gerard, and many more... > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 14:25:01 +0200 > From: Irene Salazar <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late > 1800's? > To: Joyce Presnall <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > I CAN MAYBE HELP. shirtwaists and lack of fuss were more business. Hats large. > > Irene > [email protected] note.middle ibitial. In email, r. > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID > > Joyce Presnall via <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have a picture just labeled "Mrs Fleury" and I think I know who it may be >> but am not 100% sure. This lady MAY have been a business woman in that >> time period and that MAY be affecting the fact that I cannot find anything >> similar to her style of dress on site I find on google. >> >> If anyone is good at dating NYC women's dress late 1800's to early1900's >> (she died 1909) please let me know. I can show you a copy of this picture >> off list. >> >> I don't even know what is in fashion NOW, no less what was in fashion a >> century or more ago LOL >> MY idea of fashion is Blue Jeans and a T-shirt--or a nice blouse to go >> out...I'm in the Pacific Northwest--everybody here wears jeans for >> everything--even in some of the nicer restaurants--(as long as jeans are >> fairly new and not faded LOL) >> >> Thx for any help... >> >> Joyce >> >> -- >> Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, >> Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, >> Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, >> Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, >> Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, >> Norton, Gerard, and many more... >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:06:20 +0000 (UTC) > From: VLB <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late > 1800's? > To: Joyce Presnall <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Two tips-------------------1--Leg o'mutton sleeves were THE style in the 1890s for girls and women of every age.? Think Gibson girl.? Even women?at work wore a version of that style.----------------------------------------------------2--There are books for historians and genealogists that show styles of various eras so photos can be identified.? Google should help locate some titles.--------------------------------------------------------Virginia > ? From: Joyce Presnall via <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:29 PM > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late 1800's? > > I have a picture just labeled "Mrs Fleury" and I think I know who it may be > but am not 100% sure.? This lady MAY have been a business woman in that > time period and that MAY be affecting the fact that I cannot find anything > similar to her style of dress on site I find on google. > > If anyone is good at dating NYC women's dress late 1800's to early1900's > (she died 1909) please let me know.? I can show you a copy of this picture > off list. > > I don't even know what is in fashion NOW, no less what was in fashion a > century or more ago LOL > MY idea of fashion is Blue Jeans and a T-shirt--or a nice blouse to go > out...I'm in the Pacific Northwest--everybody here wears jeans for > everything--even in some of the nicer restaurants--(as long as jeans are > fairly new and not faded LOL) > > Thx for any help... > > Joyce > > -- > Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, > Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, > Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, > Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, > Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, > Norton, Gerard, and many more... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:06:20 +0000 (UTC) > From: VLB <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late > 1800's? > To: Joyce Presnall <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Two tips-------------------1--Leg o'mutton sleeves were THE style in the 1890s for girls and women of every age.? Think Gibson girl.? Even women?at work wore a version of that style.----------------------------------------------------2--There are books for historians and genealogists that show styles of various eras so photos can be identified.? Google should help locate some titles.--------------------------------------------------------Virginia > ? From: Joyce Presnall via <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 1:29 PM > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Anyone know a lot about dress/hats in ? late 1800's? > > I have a picture just labeled "Mrs Fleury" and I think I know who it may be > but am not 100% sure.? This lady MAY have been a business woman in that > time period and that MAY be affecting the fact that I cannot find anything > similar to her style of dress on site I find on google. > > If anyone is good at dating NYC women's dress late 1800's to early1900's > (she died 1909) please let me know.? I can show you a copy of this picture > off list. > > I don't even know what is in fashion NOW, no less what was in fashion a > century or more ago LOL > MY idea of fashion is Blue Jeans and a T-shirt--or a nice blouse to go > out...I'm in the Pacific Northwest--everybody here wears jeans for > everything--even in some of the nicer restaurants--(as long as jeans are > fairly new and not faded LOL) > > Thx for any help... > > Joyce > > -- > Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, > Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, > Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, > Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, > Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, > Norton, Gerard, and many more... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 16:50:02 -0400 > From: "Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor" > <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Death Certificate from the DOH > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I have a 2x great-grandmother who died in Brooklyn in 1949, so her death > certificate is held by the Department of Health rather than the Municipal > Archives. However, I believe that it's old enough to be considered a > publicly accessible record. My request was just returned to me, having been > denied because I hadn't listed her parents' names, or the certificate > number. I don't know her parents' names - that's why I want the > certificate! And the application instructions said nothing about an index > where you could find the cert #, so I have no idea how I would even be able > to provide that. I provided her name, date of death, and place of death - > surely that's sufficient for them to look it up, no? > > Has anyone had success in ordering certs from the NYC DOH who can give me > some tips on how to get my request fulfilled? > > Thanks! > Kathleen > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 17:03:53 -0400 > From: Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Death Certificate from the DOH > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Do you have an obituary ?? She may have siblings > > Do you know were she is buried ?? > > Do you a have a marriage record ?? > > Dome of abv may be beneficial to explore > > Ehat is the name and date of death .................. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor via <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, May 31, 2015 4:52 pm > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Death Certificate from the DOH > > > I have a 2x great-grandmother who died in Brooklyn in 1949, so her > death > certificate is held by the Department of Health rather than the > Municipal > Archives. However, I believe that it's old enough to be considered > a > publicly accessible record. My request was just returned to me, having > been > denied because I hadn't listed her parents' names, or the > certificate > number. I don't know her parents' names - that's why I want > the > certificate! And the application instructions said nothing about an > index > where you could find the cert #, so I have no idea how I would even be > able > to provide that. I provided her name, date of death, and place of death > - > surely that's sufficient for them to look it up, no? > > Has anyone had > success in ordering certs from the NYC DOH who can give me > some tips on how to > get my request fulfilled? > > Thanks! > Kathleen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 19:53:18 -0400 > From: "Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Death Certificate from the DOH > To: Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Her name was Mary King O'Hara, and she died in Brooklyn on 5 Nov 1949. > > I do have an obituary, but no access to it at the moment (have not yet > transferred my files from the old computer to the new). I don't believe it > mentioned siblings, although I believe she had at least 2 brothers in the > US, John and Martin. You're right that I should track them down further - I > have them on a few census records, but that's it. > > I think she's buried in Holy Cross, but that's just going off of memory - > again, files are still on the old computer. (Ok, I get it, I know what I > need to do next.) > > No marriage certificate yet - a few years ago I was trying to track down > baptismal records for her kids, and traced the family through a few > Brooklyn neighborhoods and tried to get in touch with the most relevant > Catholic churches for their locations, but only was able to ID one > baptismal record (no one else in the family was married or baptized at that > parish). One other parish told me they didn't find anything, and none of > the others responded - but I didn't follow up beyond the initial contact. > > Regardless of the other avenues I can and should pursue, it's still > frustrating to be denied a record I think I should have access to! > > Kathleen > > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Do you have an obituary ?? She may have siblings >> >> Do you know were she is buried ?? >> >> Do you a have a marriage record ?? >> >> Dome of abv may be beneficial to explore >> >> Ehat is the name and date of death .................. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor via <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sun, May 31, 2015 4:52 pm >> Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Death Certificate from the DOH >> >> I have a 2x great-grandmother who died in Brooklyn in 1949, so her >> death >> certificate is held by the Department of Health rather than the >> Municipal >> Archives. However, I believe that it's old enough to be considered >> a >> publicly accessible record. My request was just returned to me, having >> been >> denied because I hadn't listed her parents' names, or the >> certificate >> number. I don't know her parents' names - that's why I want >> the >> certificate! And the application instructions said nothing about an >> index >> where you could find the cert #, so I have no idea how I would even be >> able >> to provide that. I provided her name, date of death, and place of death >> - >> surely that's sufficient for them to look it up, no? >> >> Has anyone had >> success in ordering certs from the NYC DOH who can give me >> some tips on how to >> get my request fulfilled? >> >> Thanks! >> Kathleen >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >> email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 105 > ******************************************