That is very interesting. Two questions--1--Do you know the period of time in question when both certs and licenses were issued?2--Would the license number be the same as the cert number? This document is three full pages. The license was applied for three days before the marriage. But the marriage doc is there too, signed by the priest and both witnesses and dated the day of the marriage. From: Jim Garrity <[email protected]> To: VLB <[email protected]>; [email protected]; NYC Rootsweb <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Have cert but not indexed anywhere Virginia, for a specific period of time, the City made available marriage CERTIFICATES as well as marriage LICENSES. The German/Italian groups only indexed the CERTIFICATES, but never got access to the licenses. Jim