Would you PLEASE take this discussion to a different list. NYC is NOT the place for this diatribe. On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Joyce Presnall via <[email protected]> wrote: > You are missing a LOT if you have not signed onto the NEW ancestry which > they tell us is going to become the permanent ancestry. WE ALL need to > speak out if we want to have the option to continue using what that are > calling "Classic" ancestry. > > The NEW site is horrible as far as I am concerned. MANY of the features we > used to use are GONE. > > To see what a mess they have made of things you need to go to the NEW > ancestry view. You will be able to switch back to Classic right now but > soon the NEW version will be the only one unless we speak up. > > They kept this NEW thing VERY quiet. > > I only know ONE person who was notified of the coming changes--and luckily > she told me about it so I was able to see for myself. > > I have been trying to put the site through it's paces and there is SO many > tools that have disappeared it is crazy. > > To sign on to the NEW and NOT improved version you need to go to the upper > R corner and click on NEW...you are in for a shock. > > So far I have compiled a 2 page list of things that have either disappeared > OR don't work right. I will forward this list (which is in WORD) to anyone > who wants it- > > I suggest EVERYONE take it for a thorough test drive and see what I am > talking about. > > MANY tools I use are gone...like being able to make comments. I use > comments on my profile page to make notes about links I have found for > various things that I am not sure belong in my tree, I use comments to > remind myself of issues to check into. When I am confused about something > I make a comment and sometimes other folks have left ME a comment that > helped me figure something out...You can no longer make comments on > stories. When I upload a story from an outside source I use the comments > to put a link to that info on the web as if you put it IN the story, most > the time the link gets broken. > > Stories no longer have ANY formatting. This means anything you add as a > story is going to be one non stop long story...I often paste the info on > records I find on familysearch for birth, marriage and death. On family > search it is nicely laid out...when you put it on ancestry now it is one > long paragraph, making it difficult to ascertain what the familysearch docs > says. > > Comments on anything are a thing of the past...member connect is gone > except on the home page which it not very useful when you want to see what > other folks have on a specific person. > > SO many things are gone or are not working at the current tine. Things > that are not working correctly are not as much of a concern as they will > probably get those things fixed as long as they are informed about it. > > It is the research tools which have vanished that are scary. I used to > have all kinds of comments, links etc for people etc--that helped me stay > on track with people and know from a glance what issues remained to be > resolved---GONE with the new system. SO I have 15 years worth of various > notes to remind myself of things I will never see again. > > We are only going to be able to keep the ancestry we know, if we can > convince them we want to be able to have the choice to view out trees and > do research under either option. Right now, the ancestry you are currently > looking at is going away=FOREVER > > It will only be through LOTS of us voicing our displeasure that we have a > CHANCE of them keeping the ancestry version we prefer. > > I will be happy to email anyone the WORD doc I have made so far--I have not > explored everything and YOU might find things that YOU like that I don't > know of gone also... > > If we are to have any hope of keeping MANY things that help us do out > research we need to speak up. > > The ONLY good thing I can say about the NEW version is that is shows you > all the alternate DOB's, DOD's and names. > > You can no longer edit any field for birth death etc that says > unknown...there is just NO way to delete that entry (which ancestry told me > years ago should not be done as ancestry did NOT program their computers to > read "unknown" as a blank space. > > There IS a quick programming fix for this ancestry COULD make --and it > should have been this way from the start to treat all boxes that say > unknown as a blank...right now they don't--so anyone you have written > unknown for the ancestry is searching for a birth or death date of > UNKNOWN--You will NEVER get a hint as to the birth date on those folks > unless it comes from some other doc that shows up as a hint on your tree. > > There are SO many things wrong with the way the site is set up now that I > cannot go into them all. I will be happy to email a WORD doc for the > things I have found so far---and I have not even scratched the surface. > > Everybody should check out the new version and see what you think--but to > find things that no longer work right you are going to have to try to do > things in your tree that you used to be able to do. > > JMHO the new version, which they were VERY quiet about, so most folks will > be blind-sided when they log on one day and find all their comments, and a > LOT of their stuff missing they are not going to be happy. > > If they hear from enough of us (and there are several methods of dong this, > I advise using as many ways possible such as FEEDBACK calling them and > also writing to Corporate. > > Right now they WANT to hear from us...and they need to hear abotu every > single thing you don't like so they either give us back those functions OR > let us keep Classic as an alternative. > > If we DON'T voice our opinions NOW-one day we are going to wake up and find > a LOT of things we have put on our tree either gone or messed up. > > DO sign on while you still have the ability to switch back to the old AFTER > you have explored the new site and seen the changes that YOU don't > like--they have taken away a LOT of valuable research tools. > > Since most the site is dark gray or black now it is going to cost you a > fortune to print off things for your personal files... > > I hope a LOT of people help me find all the things we don't like so we can > let them know. That is the ONLY shot we have of getting the site to be > usable as it is now...MANY things are going away. > > I imagine they planned on sneaking these new changes in on us...MANY people > are mad as a hornet about the changes. > > Let me know if you want a copy of the 2 pages I have found so far--I > haven't even looked at many parts of the site yet. I am a little afraid to > to be honest..so many things are messed up now. > > Joyce > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Barbara Kiersh <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Joyce, > > > > I'm more than a little confused. First of all I didn't realize that > there > > was an update on Ancestry. I'm not having any problems and everything > > seems to work fine for me. I can print out a descendancy chart just fine > > and dates are all there. I would like place of burial in the individual > > info but that wasn't there in the previous version. Am I missing > something? > > > > Barbara Kiersh > > > > > > > > On Saturday, June 6, 2015 2:01 PM, Joyce Presnall via < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I am probably going to shoot myself for volunteering to do this BUT it is > > the best way I can see for all of us to ID the problems we are seeing > with > > the New and NOT improved version of ancestry.com. > > > > I am asking for everyone's help in ID'ing issues they see. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I disagree. It is a tool many use. I do think it could become a discussion that needs to move to another list but as always if it's a topic you have no interest in delete without reading. I also think of the topic became very off-topic the administrator with pipe in. Gail Jorgensen Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Jun 6, 2015, at 17:59, Suzanne Brayer via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Would you PLEASE take this discussion to a different list. NYC is NOT the > place for this diatribe. > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Joyce Presnall via <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> You are missing a LOT if you have not signed onto the NEW ancestry which >> they tell us is going to become the permanent ancestry. WE ALL need to >> speak out if we want to have the option to continue using what that are >> calling "Classic" ancestry. >> >> The NEW site is horrible as far as I am concerned. MANY of the features we >> used to use are GONE. >> >> To see what a mess they have made of things you need to go to the NEW >> ancestry view. You will be able to switch back to Classic right now but >> soon the NEW version will be the only one unless we speak up. >> >> They kept this NEW thing VERY quiet. >> >> I only know ONE person who was notified of the coming changes--and luckily >> she told me about it so I was able to see for myself. >> >> I have been trying to put the site through it's paces and there is SO many >> tools that have disappeared it is crazy. >> >> To sign on to the NEW and NOT improved version you need to go to the upper >> R corner and click on NEW...you are in for a shock. >> >> So far I have compiled a 2 page list of things that have either disappeared >> OR don't work right. I will forward this list (which is in WORD) to anyone >> who wants it- >> >> I suggest EVERYONE take it for a thorough test drive and see what I am >> talking about. >> >> MANY tools I use are gone...like being able to make comments. I use >> comments on my profile page to make notes about links I have found for >> various things that I am not sure belong in my tree, I use comments to >> remind myself of issues to check into. When I am confused about something >> I make a comment and sometimes other folks have left ME a comment that >> helped me figure something out...You can no longer make comments on >> stories. When I upload a story from an outside source I use the comments >> to put a link to that info on the web as if you put it IN the story, most >> the time the link gets broken. >> >> Stories no longer have ANY formatting. This means anything you add as a >> story is going to be one non stop long story...I often paste the info on >> records I find on familysearch for birth, marriage and death. On family >> search it is nicely laid out...when you put it on ancestry now it is one >> long paragraph, making it difficult to ascertain what the familysearch docs >> says. >> >> Comments on anything are a thing of the past...member connect is gone >> except on the home page which it not very useful when you want to see what >> other folks have on a specific person. >> >> SO many things are gone or are not working at the current tine. Things >> that are not working correctly are not as much of a concern as they will >> probably get those things fixed as long as they are informed about it. >> >> It is the research tools which have vanished that are scary. I used to >> have all kinds of comments, links etc for people etc--that helped me stay >> on track with people and know from a glance what issues remained to be >> resolved---GONE with the new system. SO I have 15 years worth of various >> notes to remind myself of things I will never see again. >> >> We are only going to be able to keep the ancestry we know, if we can >> convince them we want to be able to have the choice to view out trees and >> do research under either option. Right now, the ancestry you are currently >> looking at is going away=FOREVER >> >> It will only be through LOTS of us voicing our displeasure that we have a >> CHANCE of them keeping the ancestry version we prefer. >> >> I will be happy to email anyone the WORD doc I have made so far--I have not >> explored everything and YOU might find things that YOU like that I don't >> know of gone also... >> >> If we are to have any hope of keeping MANY things that help us do out >> research we need to speak up. >> >> The ONLY good thing I can say about the NEW version is that is shows you >> all the alternate DOB's, DOD's and names. >> >> You can no longer edit any field for birth death etc that says >> unknown...there is just NO way to delete that entry (which ancestry told me >> years ago should not be done as ancestry did NOT program their computers to >> read "unknown" as a blank space. >> >> There IS a quick programming fix for this ancestry COULD make --and it >> should have been this way from the start to treat all boxes that say >> unknown as a blank...right now they don't--so anyone you have written >> unknown for the ancestry is searching for a birth or death date of >> UNKNOWN--You will NEVER get a hint as to the birth date on those folks >> unless it comes from some other doc that shows up as a hint on your tree. >> >> There are SO many things wrong with the way the site is set up now that I >> cannot go into them all. I will be happy to email a WORD doc for the >> things I have found so far---and I have not even scratched the surface. >> >> Everybody should check out the new version and see what you think--but to >> find things that no longer work right you are going to have to try to do >> things in your tree that you used to be able to do. >> >> JMHO the new version, which they were VERY quiet about, so most folks will >> be blind-sided when they log on one day and find all their comments, and a >> LOT of their stuff missing they are not going to be happy. >> >> If they hear from enough of us (and there are several methods of dong this, >> I advise using as many ways possible such as FEEDBACK calling them and >> also writing to Corporate. >> >> Right now they WANT to hear from us...and they need to hear abotu every >> single thing you don't like so they either give us back those functions OR >> let us keep Classic as an alternative. >> >> If we DON'T voice our opinions NOW-one day we are going to wake up and find >> a LOT of things we have put on our tree either gone or messed up. >> >> DO sign on while you still have the ability to switch back to the old AFTER >> you have explored the new site and seen the changes that YOU don't >> like--they have taken away a LOT of valuable research tools. >> >> Since most the site is dark gray or black now it is going to cost you a >> fortune to print off things for your personal files... >> >> I hope a LOT of people help me find all the things we don't like so we can >> let them know. That is the ONLY shot we have of getting the site to be >> usable as it is now...MANY things are going away. >> >> I imagine they planned on sneaking these new changes in on us...MANY people >> are mad as a hornet about the changes. >> >> Let me know if you want a copy of the 2 pages I have found so far--I >> haven't even looked at many parts of the site yet. I am a little afraid to >> to be honest..so many things are messed up now. >> >> Joyce >> >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Barbara Kiersh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Joyce, >>> >>> I'm more than a little confused. First of all I didn't realize that >> there >>> was an update on Ancestry. I'm not having any problems and everything >>> seems to work fine for me. I can print out a descendancy chart just fine >>> and dates are all there. I would like place of burial in the individual >>> info but that wasn't there in the previous version. Am I missing >> something? >>> >>> Barbara Kiersh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, June 6, 2015 2:01 PM, Joyce Presnall via < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I am probably going to shoot myself for volunteering to do this BUT it is >>> the best way I can see for all of us to ID the problems we are seeing >> with >>> the New and NOT improved version of ancestry.com. >>> >>> I am asking for everyone's help in ID'ing issues they see. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message