Via the military records of his son, I was able to obtain the date and birthplace of my paternal grandfather: Edward F.Sullivan was born 29 January,1871 at 404 East 14th St. NYC. I have obtained his baptismal record from the Church of the Immaculate Conception 414 East 14th St.The only record was this baptisim. No marriage or other siblings baptisims. His parents were John Sullivan and Kate Lynch. Edward's marriage certificate lists his mother as Mary Lynch. I am assuming she is Mary Kate Lynch. I was unable to locate the family at 404 East 14th St. in the 1870 first and second enumerations. NYC Directories 1869-1872 also negative. I do not see them in the 1880 Census. My oldest living relative believes that my great grandparents died young and that the children were un- officially taken in by other families????? Edward had brothers Daniel and Joseph, ages unknown. Unknown if he had sisters. I think my next step would be to locate death certificates and the marriage certificate for John and Mary Kate. If I assume they died between the ages of 21 and 40 and the years 1871 to 1880, it would not be too overwhelming to send for the $2 copies from LDS Utah one year at a time. If Civil records of the marriage are not available,how or where should I start the church search? I suppose, I should start from The Immaculate Conception and branch out using the IFHF Sept. 1996 newsletter map as a guide. I read your posts daily and am amazed by your genealogical knowledge. Thank you all in advance Robert T. Sullivan