I gave u the URL for ordering certificates from LDS weeks ago and sent you the cert numbers.......It is two dollars per cert as you have quite a few........so why the questin.............And doubt you are going to get the ophanage unless u find Nrman in the 1930 census...........NYPL is New York Publ;ic library.................. Diane thanks for the info, but what is NYPL? Can you suggest the ONE best place to get copy's of all the birth cert. and orphanage info, or do we need to go to many places? thank you, Jackie