Hi Evy, I'm sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. Everything seems to need my attention at the same time. The funny thing is that I am very behind on everything. >From the 1890-1 directories, my family living at 191 Orchard St. were John F. & Sophie Engel and their seven (at the time) surviving children. They were German Presbyterians. Their oldest daughter Anna Maria Catharina married Julius Hartmann in Sep 1893. On the marriage record they both gave their address as 191. I believe that when my gr-grandfather got out of the Navy, the Engels took him in as a border. Julius was a German Lutheran. Within 7 years Annie & Julius were living on E.83rd St. What are the names of your family? What faith were they? What ethnic background? I'm sure they probably knew each other even if they were not friends. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evy Sanfilippo" <evyanddom@cox.net> To: <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Orchard St. > My Great grandparents lived at 98 Orchard St at the time of the 1880 > census, with six children. > By 1890 they were living at 195 Orchard St. After that my widowed > grandmother moved uptown to the Eastside 90's. > Evy