Do a two step request via LDS......... Fill oout the form and give them the film nr, date, and name and u will get the cert nr. Then, get the cert. I'm turning to you once again. There's usually a kind person who comes through. My grandfather's sister gave birth to a child in Manhattan on 13 Aug. 1888, named Rudolph Kern. Father Rudolph Kern, mother Charlotte Lazarus. I have the film number, FHL #1323480, courtesy of the LDS. I someone is going to the Municipal Archives, would they be willing to do a lookup in the index for me. All I need is the certificate number, and then I'll get the photocopy from the LDS.