Hi Charles, See Anne Brown's response below. I've cut and paste for your convenience. >> The 1829 city directory lists three Popes: a grocer, a rigger, and >> a carpenter. Concentrate on the carpenter, since he is Charles >> Pope, 216 Duane St. Carpenters made coffins, of course, so >> being a sexton was a fitting sideline. The 1833 Hooker and 1834 >> Burr >> maps show a Methodist church on Duane between Hudson and >> Greenwich. If the street numbers haven't changed much, that's >> right near #216. >> >> In her disussion of the Bedford St. M.E. Cem & Vaults, Carolee >> mentions Bedford being absorbed by another church, which you >> could contact if you believe Mr. Perry lived near Duane Street: >> Metropolitan-Duane United Methodist Church >> 201 West 13th Street >> NY NY 10011-7795 >> 212-243-5740 Thanks to everyone who replied in the last 2 days. They've really helped me narrowed down to finding the gravesite. Now I just need to make some personal calls or emails or letters, whatever it takes! Angela On Jun 28, 2010, at 1:00 AM, nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Naturalization (Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson) > 2. Re: Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? (CW Marshall) > 3. Re: Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? (Anne W. Brown) > 4. Re: Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? (Angela Munro) > 5. Re: Naturalization (CD Family) > 6. Re: Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? (Rdpiet@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:51:57 -0400 > From: Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson <cosette.58@hotmail.com> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Naturalization > To: "nynewyor@rootsweb.com" <nynewyor@rootsweb.com>, > "nyc-roots@rootsweb.com" <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>, > "nysuffol@rootsweb.com" <nysuffol@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL110-W5824CDA98E1A23D587D45093C90@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I found a Suffolk Cty naturalization for Marie Heine. Can I get this > info from NARA or do I have to go to Suffolk Cty? > > > > Liz > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from > your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:29:47 -0700 > From: CW Marshall <marshallcw80@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4c278a90.17188f0a.4b8e.ffff98bc@mx.google.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > C. Pope is more than likely the name of the sexton, the man in charge > of the cemetery, including recording burials in their records. If > you can't nail down the exact cemetery name and location, this name > and occupation could be a very helpful clue. Use this to try and > locate him in old city directories, anything you can find after 1832 > or maybe even in census returns (maybe even tax or marriage > records?), anything that might list his occupation around this 1832 > timeframe. If you can figure out where C. Pope lived, the odds would > be pretty good that he lived close to the cemetery if not on the > actual grounds so he could keep an eye on things and manage the > cemetery affairs. > > If you find this cemetery in uptown Manhattan above where Central > Park is today (especially if it's in the Harlem area) and the ME > church is nearby or on the same grounds, please let us know. This > might even help me too. Thanks. > > -Charles Marshall > > > At 12:00 AM 6/27/2010, you wrote: > >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:52:25 -0600 >> From: Angela Munro <basenjigirl@gmail.com> >> Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? >> To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> >> Hi, I just got a copy of the death information for a relative and the >> column titled "Cemetery" it says "Methodist Episcopal". I did a >> search online for a Methodist Episcopal Cemetery but couldn't narrow >> it down to NYC. There were other Methodist Episcopal cemeteries but >> they were all over the place in other states. Was this an actual >> name of the cemetery? Was this name changed either to or from >> Methodist Episcopal? The relative that I'm looking for is Robert >> Perry who died 19 Feb 1832 in New York City. There's also another >> column next to Cemetery that is titled either "Section" or "Sexton" >> and that says "E. or C. Pope". Was that a name of a person or the >> section of the cemetery? >> >> Thanks >> Angela > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:00:41 -0400 > From: "Anne W. Brown" <awb@chesapeake.net> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? > To: basenjigirl@gmail.com > Cc: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <01DA1D1B061B0F00293A002004@Anne> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > Dear Angela, > > Franklin Street is only three blocks north of Duane, so I would > definitely concentrate on that area. Anne > > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- > From: "Angela Munro" <basenjigirl@gmail.com> > To: awb@chesapeake.net > Received: 6/27/2010 9:47:36 AM > Subject: Re: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 149 > > >> Thanks so much Anne! I will look into your suggestions. According >> to >> this death information, he lived on Franklin St at the time of his >> death. Any other suggestions? > >> Angela >> On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Anne W. Brown wrote: > >>> >>> Dear Angela, >>> >>> Carolee Inskeep's "Graveyard Shift" lists about a dozen Methodist >> >>> Episcopal churches and cemeteries on Manhatan, so it would be >> worth >>> your getting the book. Many didn't have their own burial grounds >>> and jointly used a cemetery - now long gone - that was in the >> block >>> between 1st, 2nd, !st Av , and 2nd Av. After the final earthen >>> burial ban in 1851, 15,000 M.E. burials were removed to Cypress >>> Hills on Jamaica Ave., Brooklyn. They came from both the 1st St. >>> cemetery and individual church yards, so you might want to try >>> Cypress Hills. >>> >>> The 1829 city directory lists three Popes: a grocer, a rigger, and >>> a carpenter. Concentrate on the carpenter, since he is Charles >>> Pope, 216 Duane St. Carpenters made coffins, of course, so >> being a >>> sexton was a fitting sideline. The 1833 Hooker and 1834 Burr >> maps >>> show a Methodist church on Duane between Hudson and >> Greenwich. If >>> the street numbers haven't changed much, that's right near #216. >>> >>> In her disussion of the Bedford St. M.E. Cem & Vaults, Carolee >>> mentions Bedford being absorbed by another church, which you >> could >>> contact if you believe Mr. Perry lived near Duane Street: >>> Metropolitan-Duane United Methodist Church >>> 201 West 13th Street >>> NY NY 10011-7795 >>> 212-243-5740 >>> >>> Good luck with your search - Anne >>> * * * * * * * * >>> Anne W. Brown, Trustee >>> New York Marble Cemetery >>> www.marblecemetery.org >>> usually open 4th Sundays in nice weather >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi, I just got a copy of the death information for a relative and >> the >>>> column titled "Cemetery" it says "Methodist Episcopal". I did a >>>> search online for a Methodist Episcopal Cemetery but couldn't >>>> narrow >>>> it down to NYC. There were other Methodist Episcopal >> cemeteries >>>> but >>>> they were all over the place in other states. Was this an actual >>>> name of the cemetery? Was this name changed either to or >> from >>>> Methodist Episcopal? The relative that I'm looking for is Robert >>>> Perry who died 19 Feb 1832 in New York City. There's also >> another >>>> column next to Cemetery that is titled either "Section" or >> "Sexton" >>>> and that says "E. or C. Pope". Was that a name of a person or >> the >>>> section of the cemetery? >>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Angela >>> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:56:54 -0600 > From: Angela Munro <basenjigirl@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? > To: awb@chesapeake.net > Cc: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8AE73801-9C2D-475A-9DFA-ECC951A7D304@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Hi Anne, > > Some additional questions for you. In the 1830's, was it typical for > people in NYC to be buried near (or the nearest) cemetery to their > home? What's the benefit of knowing the sexton's name? > > I sent an email to both the Cypress Hills and Greenwood cemeteries. > Hopefully they'll be able to tell me something. I will call the > Metropolitan-Duane Methodist church tomorrow. > > Thanks > Angela > On Jun 27, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Anne W. Brown wrote: > >> Dear Angela, >> >> Franklin Street is only three blocks north of Duane, so I would >> definitely concentrate on that area. Anne >> >> ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- >> From: "Angela Munro" <basenjigirl@gmail.com> >> To: awb@chesapeake.net >> Received: 6/27/2010 9:47:36 AM >> Subject: Re: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 149 >> >> >>> Thanks so much Anne! I will look into your suggestions. According >>> to >>> this death information, he lived on Franklin St at the time of his >>> death. Any other suggestions? >> >>> Angela >>> On Jun 27, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Anne W. Brown wrote: >> >>>> >>>> Dear Angela, >>>> >>>> Carolee Inskeep's "Graveyard Shift" lists about a dozen Methodist >>> >>>> Episcopal churches and cemeteries on Manhatan, so it would be >>> worth >>>> your getting the book. Many didn't have their own burial grounds >>>> and jointly used a cemetery - now long gone - that was in the >>> block >>>> between 1st, 2nd, !st Av , and 2nd Av. After the final earthen >>>> burial ban in 1851, 15,000 M.E. burials were removed to Cypress >>>> Hills on Jamaica Ave., Brooklyn. They came from both the 1st St. >>>> cemetery and individual church yards, so you might want to try >>>> Cypress Hills. >>>> >>>> The 1829 city directory lists three Popes: a grocer, a rigger, and >>>> a carpenter. Concentrate on the carpenter, since he is Charles >>>> Pope, 216 Duane St. Carpenters made coffins, of course, so >>> being a >>>> sexton was a fitting sideline. The 1833 Hooker and 1834 Burr >>> maps >>>> show a Methodist church on Duane between Hudson and >>> Greenwich. If >>>> the street numbers haven't changed much, that's right near #216. >>>> >>>> In her disussion of the Bedford St. M.E. Cem & Vaults, Carolee >>>> mentions Bedford being absorbed by another church, which you >>> could >>>> contact if you believe Mr. Perry lived near Duane Street: >>>> Metropolitan-Duane United Methodist Church >>>> 201 West 13th Street >>>> NY NY 10011-7795 >>>> 212-243-5740 >>>> >>>> Good luck with your search - Anne >>>> * * * * * * * * >>>> Anne W. Brown, Trustee >>>> New York Marble Cemetery >>>> www.marblecemetery.org >>>> usually open 4th Sundays in nice weather >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, I just got a copy of the death information for a relative and >>> the >>>>> column titled "Cemetery" it says "Methodist Episcopal". I did a >>>>> search online for a Methodist Episcopal Cemetery but couldn't >>>>> narrow >>>>> it down to NYC. There were other Methodist Episcopal >>> cemeteries >>>>> but >>>>> they were all over the place in other states. Was this an actual >>>>> name of the cemetery? Was this name changed either to or >>> from >>>>> Methodist Episcopal? The relative that I'm looking for is Robert >>>>> Perry who died 19 Feb 1832 in New York City. There's also >>> another >>>>> column next to Cemetery that is titled either "Section" or >>> "Sexton" >>>>> and that says "E. or C. Pope". Was that a name of a person or >>> the >>>>> section of the cemetery? >>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> Angela >>>> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:36:55 -0400 > From: "CD Family" <cdfamily@davidandcarole.info> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Naturalization > To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>, <nynewyor@rootsweb.com>, > <nysuffol@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000001cb1651$a0ea9000$e2bfb000$@davidandcarole.info> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Marie, > > I found on Footnote a Declaration of Intention and Petition of > Maturation > for Marie Heine in addition to some other addition. > > I have uploaded the information to my website at: > www.davidandcarole.info\RAOKMarieHeine.htm > > They were found at both the Southern District and Eastern District > in New > York. > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > ] > On Behalf Of Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson > Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:52 PM > To: nynewyor@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com; nysuffol@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Naturalization > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I found a Suffolk Cty naturalization for Marie Heine. Can I get this > info > from NARA or do I have to go to Suffolk Cty? > > > > Liz > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from > your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:W > L:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:23:52 EDT > From: Rdpiet@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Cemetery? > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <918d3.61883d11.39594598@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > you are a miracle worker if you got information on a > relative > from 1832. 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