hi, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the following relatives, who emigrated to NEW YORK and we know nothing about them. All I have is their records at ELLIS ISLAND. Thanks in advance for any help, MARY ROCHE b. 1885, arrived 30 APR 1903. PATRICK ROCHE b. 1883, arrived 13 APR 1905. DELIA ROCHE b. 1889, arrived 10 APR JUN 1909. MARTIN ROCHE b. 1887, arrived 5 JUN 1910. They had a brother JOHN (my Grandfather) who remained on the family farm in Ireland, and a sister KATE who married and remained in Ireland as well. They were all originally from a place called FEAGH in Co. GALWAY, IRELAND. The local significant town was BALLGLUNIN - which is where some of the movie THE QUIET MAN was filmed. Thats all I have I am afraid Regards, SEAN > From: nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 112 > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 01:00:33 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [NYQUEENS] When HARLEM was a village. (Gerald Tobin) > 2. When HARLEM was a village. (Soyamaven@aol.com) > 3. Re: When HARLEM was a village. (Rdpiet@aol.com) > 4. Protestant Churches near 21 Baxter St. (Bob Pearce) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 16:18:22 -0400 > From: Gerald Tobin <tobinger@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] [NYQUEENS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <A509E7ED-3B17-4B2D-AA4E-11BB26D98659@frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:59 PM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > > > A few years ago, I believe that it was the NYC-L list member Charles > > MARSHALL > > (marshallcw80@gmail.com) who referred to Harlem as a VILLAGE. Bob PIETERSE > > (rdpiet@aol.com) debated the accuracy of the word "village" as it pertained > > to Harlem, called Haarlem by the Dutch, located in northernmost New York > > County. > > > > Since the list administrator at NYC-L, Carol Head, no longer accepts my > > post "her list", anyone is welcome to forward this post, to that list. > > > > Early New York - When Harlem Was A Village > >> URL: http://www.oldandsold.com/articles11/new-york-history-18.shtml > > > > This article above, confirms that Harlem was in fact once a village of NYC. > > > > Barb > > Metro NYC Researcher > > Published Genealogical Author > > Member of GGG & IHR > > > > @ BAMSEWL 9/7/2011 > > > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYQUEENS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:04:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: Soyamaven@aol.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com, NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com, > NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com, nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: marshallcw80@gmail.com, MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Message-ID: <449e.1890cb5c.3b7065e2@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Barbara et al. > > Colloquial villages are not villages. > > While Harlem may have been a colloquial village, it was never an actual > village (a self-governing municipality with a mayor and a board of trustees, > with taxing authority and local zoning control, among other things that are > part and parcel of a village). > > > I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS > definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone. > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > Regards, > Walter Greenspan > Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY > . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State > New York State is divided into counties. > County > A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created > to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are > divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. > City > A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. > Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal > geographic areas. > Town > A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the > state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be > sub-divided into villages and hamlets. > Village > A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by > the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with > municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those > of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal > geographic areas. > Hamlet > A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed > at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, > which are informal geographic areas. > Postal Zone "City" and "Town" > A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established > by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and > "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community > borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or > hamlet location. > Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of > non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have > a different community name in their mailing address than the community > where that place is actually located. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:54:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rdpiet@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com, NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com, > NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com, NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com > Cc: marshallcw80@gmail.com > Message-ID: <31fc4.73afd84b.3b708de0@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Sone research might be appropriate > > settlers incorporated the Village of Harlem in 1658 > In 1873, the Village of Harlem was ?annexed? to the City of New York. > .......etxc etc > > NOTL Colloquial villages are not villages............ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:31:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bob Pearce <eileen070854@snet.net> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Protestant Churches near 21 Baxter St. > To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1312767110.68391.YahooMailRC@web83711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Hello Fellow Researchers, > > I have found my gg grandfather Louis GINOCCHIO in the 1859 NYC > directory living at > 21 Baxter St. Can anyone tell me which protestant churches were close by? Louis > was Italian catholic > but it seems his wife was Irish protestant. They had two daughters by this > time. One born 1856 and another born 1858. All three children were married by > protestant ministers. > Any advice appreciated. > > Thank > you, > Bob > Pearce > Windsor > Locks, CT > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 112 > *****************************************