Hi Dianne, yes, that is his family! I do have several more census data, but none provides any hint towards Herman Otten's birth place (just Kingdom / province of Hanover). Greetings from Berlin Walter > -----Original Message----- > From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots- > bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dashmom@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:23 PM > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FW: FW: marriage certificate > > Walter ~ > > I found one indexed as "Harman" Otten in the 1880 census,age 50, with > a > wife Annie age 47, and children Annie,age 21; Mary, age 18; Emma, age > 12 and > George H.age 9. He and his wife and their parents were all listed as > having been born in Hanover. He was listed as a retail grocer. > > Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: New York City, New York, > New > York; Roll: 880; Family History Film: 1254880; Page: 158D; > Enumeration > District: 282 > > Do you think this may be the one? > > Dianne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message