Where was she in 1870 and who was she living with ?? Is the son from the first or second marriage ?? and how old was he in 1880 ?? The 1880 Census for NY, NY (Manhattan) lists this household: Joseph E. LAMRRELL, age 43 & hus wife Charlotte LAMRRELL, age 63 She was b. Charlotte MENONAY who m. Jean FRECHETTE, 1835 in Montreal. Charlotte apparently married LAMRRELL in NY after Jean FRECHETTE's death. Her son and grandson were also in the household. Can anyone determine when Joseph & Catherine married? >1850. Norman Cazavan