Velma, You did not indicate whether you had done all your census work. Did the Meusers die before a census that would give their year of immigration? Or how many years they were married? What were their years of birth? Also, we are assuming they lived in New York CITY, but you do not actually say this. Since they lived in Ohio cities, it is certainly possible that they were city people and first lived in NYC. What was William's occupation? Keep in mind that the records of NYC are quite separate from those of New York State. I agree it is likely that they were married in NY since no children were born until Ohio. However, a first child might have died at birth. Frankly, New York is a miserable state in which to do research (LOL), and I have been doing this for 25 years. The indexes for NYC vital records are only very recently on line and roughly cover the period from the 1890s forward. Here is a check list of research I would use in your case. You may very well have done some of it. Census records in Ohio for every single descendant. Vital records for same. Cemetery records for same, including tombstones. Church records City directories for same. Great you have obituaries. Match them up with death certificates for William and Henrietta in Ohio to see matching and new information, who gave that information, etc. It is unusual for people to move on their own without knowing others who have made the journey before. Keep alert in Ohio for not only other family members but people in the church records who may be part of the migrating community. One of those might have on his/her tombstone the place of origin in Germany (although this is more commonly done in the Irish community). Be happy these people were Germans as they are good record keepers. Be happy also the name is Meuser and not Schmidt (as in my case). Since you know William's occupation from Ohio, check NYC directories for him in that small time period. [A little may be on Ancestry now, but you will not have to rent many LDS NYC directory films to know whether William is listed.] If you get an address for William, then you can narrow down the church where the couple may have married. You do not say whether they were Roman Catholic or Protestant (perhaps Lutheran). Check also for the Stahls. If Henrietta was single in NYC, it is doubtful she came immigrated alone. You know neither is on the US 1850 census for NY? I suggest you read material from the Brooklyn NY Genealogy website http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ not because your ancestors were in Brooklyn but because it is just so good and inclusive with lots of information about Manhattan (since so many Brooklynites first lived there). I did a Meuser search for you, but all dates were 1870s and earlier. However, read information on site below. Vital records did not really begin in New York state until 1880s. http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Marriage/index.html There is also information on Manhattan churches that would allow you to figure out their church if you had an address from a directory. Those city directories are like gold and worth any rental money you might pay for films if necessary. Hmm, I see someone has a tree for this person, that he did live until 1900 census, and that he never lived in a large city, rather Marietta and Massillon, OH. It says year of immigration is unknown--so that is out. Edward is born 1857. How do you know the years William is in NY? http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/16339876/person/390769402 Is this your tree? >My ancestors- William Meuser and his wife Henrietta Stahl Meuser were in New York between 1850-1853. I can not find the ship that they were on to come to America. and thus do not know what year they arrived. I do not know if they were married in Germany or America.< Elizabeth W. Knowlton in Atlanta where supposedly it is finally raining, but only a thimblefull has fallen.