Bob, I understand some of these recent posts are useless to you but there are those of us who do not mind taking some bits of information provided by others and then researching the rest on our own. If what somebody else posts is not complete information and I want more - then I have something to then further investigate on my own and then share that information with the group. It is not the groups purpose to hand feed everybody. You have been helpful to me in the past so I don't understand why you feel you need to shoot down these recent posts. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 10, 2017, at 12:22, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > Quite an informative post. > > It hardly explains which ones and why > > Quote > > * Some records are limited to viewing only in a family history center > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Mayrose <wmayrose@hotmail.com> > To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 9:20 pm > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] LDS FAQs Regarding Microfilms & Online Access > > Here is a link to LDS FAQs regarding the recent changes in access to microfilms: > > https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research > [http://www.lds.org/bc/content/ldsorg/content/images/facebook/lds_Fb_defaultThm.jpg]<https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research> > > Frequently Asked Questions - lds.org<https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research> > Frequently asked questions about the discontinuation of FamilySearch microfilm. > www.lds.org > > > > > Here's a snippet regarding restricted access . . . > > * The microfilm may have a contractual, data privacy, or other restriction preventing access. FamilySearch is making every effort to ease restrictions, which is dependent on decisions of record custodians and applicable laws. FamilySearch strives to obey all laws and restrictions regarding records. > * Some records are limited to viewing only in a family history center, and some are restricted from any access. Microfilms that previously were restricted from circulation will remain restricted from access in digital format until legal conditions change. > > Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Quite an informative post. It hardly explains which ones and why Quote * Some records are limited to viewing only in a family history center -----Original Message----- From: Bill Mayrose <wmayrose@hotmail.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 9:20 pm Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] LDS FAQs Regarding Microfilms & Online Access Here is a link to LDS FAQs regarding the recent changes in access to microfilms: https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research [http://www.lds.org/bc/content/ldsorg/content/images/facebook/lds_Fb_defaultThm.jpg]<https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research> Frequently Asked Questions - lds.org<https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research> Frequently asked questions about the discontinuation of FamilySearch microfilm. www.lds.org Here's a snippet regarding restricted access . . . * The microfilm may have a contractual, data privacy, or other restriction preventing access. FamilySearch is making every effort to ease restrictions, which is dependent on decisions of record custodians and applicable laws. FamilySearch strives to obey all laws and restrictions regarding records. * Some records are limited to viewing only in a family history center, and some are restricted from any access. Microfilms that previously were restricted from circulation will remain restricted from access in digital format until legal conditions change. Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not quite getting it. 1, Ancestry found that Anthony Dunleavy died in 1939. 2. Archives don't have death certificates after 1948. So? Anthony Dunleavy died in 1939. 3. Your solution; ask NYC municipal archives to look for a death certificate from 1953 to 1958 and you're questioning why they found nothing? ?????!!!!!!!!! Yours, Dora -----Original Message----- From: metronycancestry@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 08, 2017 5:05 PM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Family Mystery - Anthony Jerome Dunleavy The Archives doesn't have death certificates after 1948. Going on that information, I requested a search at NYC municipal archives for a death certificate for 1953-1958. They came up with nothing. -----Original Message----- From: pcordes3 <pcordes3@gmail.com> Ancestry has a record in the New York, Death Index, 1880-1956 for an Anthony Dunleavy in Orangetown. It appears to be near Suffern.... Name: Anthony Dunleavy Death Date: 5 Aug 1939 Death Place: Orangetown, New York, USA Certificate Number: 54781 Regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: NYC-ROOTS [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces+pcordes3=gmail.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Dunleavy Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 1:05 PM To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Family Mystery - Anthony Jerome Dunleavy My husband's grandfather, Anthony Jerome Dunleavy (b. 1884 in England) is the black sheep of the family. He left his wife and six children in 1927 in Scranton, PA. My husband's father never spoke of him. The last time he appears in the Scranton city directories is 1927. I have not been able to locate him in the 1930 or 1940 census. Family stories say he worked as a bellman at a hotel in NYC. I have never been able to confirm that. I do have his SSI application from 1937 which has his address in Suffern, N.Y. He listed his employer as Rockland Electric. I have communicated with descendants of one of his brothers over the years. They said that it was not unusual for Anthony to leave the family for periods of time and end up in NYC. The brothers would go to NYC, find him and bring him home to Scranton. The brother's theory is that Anthony died homeless in NYC. Anthony's name appears in one of his brother's obits in 1953 and states he lived in NJ. His name does not appear in another brother's obit in 1958. Going on that information, I requested a search at NYC municipal archives for a death certificate for 1953-1958. They came up with nothing. So my question is: where do I go from here? Am I missing something? Should I assume that he did indeed die homeless and there are no records? Any suggestions would be welcomed. Sandy Dunleavy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Is this the Latter Day saints Churches the same as FHC? Can you just go and ask to use the records online and not have to wait to order a microfilm? I've never been so don't really know the whole process just heard bits and pieces. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; metronycancestry <metronycancestry@aol.com> Cc: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 8:20 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates All family history center's have the same access to these digital records. It is no longer "if". That applied to when you needed to view microfilm. The digitalized records are in all centers because they are online. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 18:09, metronycancestry@aol.com wrote: > > IF your center has them. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > > Now I can go to my local family history center. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

First, this project of digitizing all records and eliminating the microfilm service has been in the genealogy news for quite awhile. It's not sudden. To stay informed, subscribe to any number of free blogs such as Dick Eastman. Second, just because something is digitized does not mean it's available anywhere, anytime.  We all have private records, such as our financial and legal papers, that may be digitized but we're not posting them everywhere.  For whatever reason, the Family History Libraries have chosen to keep some accessible only at their libraries and affiliates. My local public library is an affiliate, for example. Much else is available from our own computers. And if it's been digitized in Salt Lake City, then any FHL or affiliate will have access to it. Third, Gail, you have the patience of a saint!Virginia From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com>     Robert the records are online but some are restricted so that the access is only when you're online inside the family history center. I'm guessing nobody knows the why yet because this just happened. These online records which are online only at the family history center, are greater access then we had a week ago so let's enjoy the transition and wait and see what happens Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 18:36, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > No  one  has  answered  the  question > > > If  the  records are  digitized  why  are  they  not  available  by  LDS  via  the  internet > > Do  you  really  think  a  center  would  get  digitized  records  from  SLC  and  they  are  not  available > > on  line.    .  I  hardly  think  so > > ---Original Message----- > From: Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com>

Here is a link to LDS FAQs regarding the recent changes in access to microfilms: https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research [http://www.lds.org/bc/content/ldsorg/content/images/facebook/lds_Fb_defaultThm.jpg]<https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research> Frequently Asked Questions - lds.org<https://www.lds.org/callings/temple-and-family-history/familysearch-microfilm-discontinuation/frequently-asked-questions?lang=eng#research> Frequently asked questions about the discontinuation of FamilySearch microfilm. www.lds.org Here's a snippet regarding restricted access . . . * The microfilm may have a contractual, data privacy, or other restriction preventing access. FamilySearch is making every effort to ease restrictions, which is dependent on decisions of record custodians and applicable laws. FamilySearch strives to obey all laws and restrictions regarding records. * Some records are limited to viewing only in a family history center, and some are restricted from any access. Microfilms that previously were restricted from circulation will remain restricted from access in digital format until legal conditions change. Bill

Another generalized term without validation. Who says it is greater access. are greater access then we had a week ago so let's enjoy the transition and wait and see what happens -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> To: gailjmom <gailjmom@gmail.com>; nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 8:35 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates What is the criteria for restricting a record ?? You are using generalized terms without validation./ And if they are online as you state I sure to not have to go to a FHC Robert the records are online but some are restricted so that the access is only when you're online inside the family history center. I'm guessing nobody knows the why yet because this just happened. These online records which are online only at the family history center, are greater access then we had a week ago so let's enjoy the transition and wait and see what happens -----Original Message----- From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: rdpiet <rdpiet@aol.com>; nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 8:22 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates Robert the records are online but some are restricted so that the access is only when you're online inside the family history center. I'm guessing nobody knows the why yet because this just happened. These online records which are online only at the family history center, are greater access then we had a week ago so let's enjoy the transition and wait and see what happens Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 18:36, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > No one has answered the question > > > If the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet > > Do you really think a center would get digitized records from SLC and they are not available > > on line. . I hardly think so > > ---Original Message----- > From: Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> > To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 3:20 pm > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > > > > IF the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet > > What records?? Birth, marriage, death ?? > A digitized death record is meaningless anyway as it does not include cause of death > > What time frame ?? > > Hard to believe that cenetrs have digitized records if they are not on line > > > > > > Robert Pieterse > rdpiet@aol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 2:50 pm > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. > Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. > To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. > 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. > 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. > 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. > 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. > 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. > 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. > I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. > Gail > > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What is the criteria for restricting a record ?? You are using generalized terms without validation./ And if they are online as you state I sure to not have to go to a FHC Robert the records are online but some are restricted so that the access is only when you're online inside the family history center. I'm guessing nobody knows the why yet because this just happened. These online records which are online only at the family history center, are greater access then we had a week ago so let's enjoy the transition and wait and see what happens -----Original Message----- From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: rdpiet <rdpiet@aol.com>; nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 8:22 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates Robert the records are online but some are restricted so that the access is only when you're online inside the family history center. I'm guessing nobody knows the why yet because this just happened. These online records which are online only at the family history center, are greater access then we had a week ago so let's enjoy the transition and wait and see what happens Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 18:36, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > No one has answered the question > > > If the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet > > Do you really think a center would get digitized records from SLC and they are not available > > on line. . I hardly think so > > ---Original Message----- > From: Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> > To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 3:20 pm > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > > > > IF the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet > > What records?? Birth, marriage, death ?? > A digitized death record is meaningless anyway as it does not include cause of death > > What time frame ?? > > Hard to believe that cenetrs have digitized records if they are not on line > > > > > > Robert Pieterse > rdpiet@aol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 2:50 pm > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. > Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. > To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. > 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. > 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. > 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. > 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. > 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. > 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. > I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. > Gail > > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert the records are online but some are restricted so that the access is only when you're online inside the family history center. I'm guessing nobody knows the why yet because this just happened. These online records which are online only at the family history center, are greater access then we had a week ago so let's enjoy the transition and wait and see what happens Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 18:36, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > No one has answered the question > > > If the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet > > Do you really think a center would get digitized records from SLC and they are not available > > on line. . I hardly think so > > ---Original Message----- > From: Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> > To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 3:20 pm > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > > > > IF the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet > > What records?? Birth, marriage, death ?? > A digitized death record is meaningless anyway as it does not include cause of death > > What time frame ?? > > Hard to believe that cenetrs have digitized records if they are not on line > > > > > > Robert Pieterse > rdpiet@aol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 2:50 pm > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. > Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. > To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. > 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. > 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. > 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. > 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. > 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. > 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. > I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. > Gail > > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All family history center's have the same access to these digital records. It is no longer "if". That applied to when you needed to view microfilm. The digitalized records are in all centers because they are online. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 18:09, metronycancestry@aol.com wrote: > > IF your center has them. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > > Now I can go to my local family history center. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Great news! I never would have known, and probably wouldn't have gone to the FHC. Thanks for letting us know. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Qui vit sans folie n'est pas si sage qu'il croit. ~Francois de La Rochefoucault ________________________________ From: NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots-bounces+francebrun=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 2:49 PM To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I heard this from someone else but I still don't see the NYC bmd's with any icon in their catalog.  The little camera means you have to go to an FHL; the larger camera means you can see the image at home.  Can you give some examples of what's available for NYC? thanks, Vrginia From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com>   I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer.

No one has answered the question If the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet Do you really think a center would get digitized records from SLC and they are not available on line. . I hardly think so ---Original Message----- From: Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 3:20 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates IF the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet What records?? Birth, marriage, death ?? A digitized death record is meaningless anyway as it does not include cause of death What time frame ?? Hard to believe that cenetrs have digitized records if they are not on line Robert Pieterse rdpiet@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 2:50 pm Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The center in Manhattan is closing and doesn't respond to emails. -----Original Message----- From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; FranceBrun <FranceBrun@hotmail.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 5:38 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates That was the most exciting part Frances, I would never of known if I had not gone in. At least I would not have known for a while until somebody told us about it. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 16:18, Frances Brunner <FranceBrun@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Great news! I never would have known, and probably wouldn't have gone to the FHC. > > Thanks for letting us know. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Qui vit sans folie n'est pas si sage qu'il croit. > ~Francois de La Rochefoucault > > > ________________________________ > From: NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots-bounces+francebrun=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 2:49 PM > To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. > Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. > To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. > 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. > 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. > 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. > 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. > 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. > 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. > I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. > Gail > > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

IF your center has them. -----Original Message----- From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> Now I can go to my local family history center.

The Archives doesn't have death certificates after 1948. Going on that information, I requested a search at NYC municipal archives for a death certificate for 1953-1958. They came up with nothing. -----Original Message----- From: pcordes3 <pcordes3@gmail.com> Ancestry has a record in the New York, Death Index, 1880-1956 for an Anthony Dunleavy in Orangetown. It appears to be near Suffern.... Name: Anthony Dunleavy Death Date: 5 Aug 1939 Death Place: Orangetown, New York, USA Certificate Number: 54781 Regards, Pat -----Original Message----- From: NYC-ROOTS [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces+pcordes3=gmail.com@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sandra Dunleavy Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 1:05 PM To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Family Mystery - Anthony Jerome Dunleavy My husband's grandfather, Anthony Jerome Dunleavy (b. 1884 in England) is the black sheep of the family. He left his wife and six children in 1927 in Scranton, PA. My husband's father never spoke of him. The last time he appears in the Scranton city directories is 1927. I have not been able to locate him in the 1930 or 1940 census. Family stories say he worked as a bellman at a hotel in NYC. I have never been able to confirm that. I do have his SSI application from 1937 which has his address in Suffern, N.Y. He listed his employer as Rockland Electric. I have communicated with descendants of one of his brothers over the years. They said that it was not unusual for Anthony to leave the family for periods of time and end up in NYC. The brothers would go to NYC, find him and bring him home to Scranton. The brother's theory is that Anthony died homeless in NYC. Anthony's name appears in one of his brother's obits in 1953 and states he lived in NJ. His name does not appear in another brother's obit in 1958. Going on that information, I requested a search at NYC municipal archives for a death certificate for 1953-1958. They came up with nothing. So my question is: where do I go from here? Am I missing something? Should I assume that he did indeed die homeless and there are no records? Any suggestions would be welcomed. Sandy Dunleavy

That was the most exciting part Frances, I would never of known if I had not gone in. At least I would not have known for a while until somebody told us about it. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 16:18, Frances Brunner <FranceBrun@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Great news! I never would have known, and probably wouldn't have gone to the FHC. > > Thanks for letting us know. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Qui vit sans folie n'est pas si sage qu'il croit. > ~Francois de La Rochefoucault > > > ________________________________ > From: NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots-bounces+francebrun=hotmail.com@rootsweb.com> on behalf of Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, September 8, 2017 2:49 PM > To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com; nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. > Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. > To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. > 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. > 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. > 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. > 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. > 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. > 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. > I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. > Gail > > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Denise, This is what is so wonderful. All the records that can be obtained in the family history center can be obtained in any family history center! If it's digitalized you can get it. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 15:37, Denise <pets007@aol.com> wrote: > > Would any FHC in any state have the NY records also? or is it just the NY FHC that has NY records? > > > Denise Irwin > Pets007@aol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 2:50 pm > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. > Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. > To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. > 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. > 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. > 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. > 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. > 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. > 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. > I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. > Gail > > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert, I do not know why. I was only sharing what I found which was a very new and fluid situation. As I mentioned in another reply there are birth and death and marriage butts again since it's all very and fluid, there will be those two will create lists of what exactly are available. I do not know why you say a death record is meaningless without the cause of death if one is using death records to try and piece together members of the family. The records I found helped me to be able to determine several people who I deducted were siblings of my ancestor are in fact the siblings of my ancestor because of the names on the records. I think that the cause of death is helpful for someone trying to create medical ancestry. As far as having the access only at the family history center's versus online I'll take what I can get because last week I would've had to pay a researcher or pay a municipality for my records or go to Salt Lake City. Now I can go to my local family history center. It is progress. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 15:20, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > IF the records are digitized why are they not available by LDS via the internet > > What records?? Birth, marriage, death ?? > A digitized death record is meaningless anyway as it does not include cause of death > > What time frame ?? > > Hard to believe that cenetrs have digitized records if they are not on line > > > > > > Robert Pieterse > rdpiet@aol.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Sep 8, 2017 2:50 pm > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] FHC certificates > > I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. > Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. > To try and ensure what I just said is clear, let me try to break it up into pieces so that everyone gets what I'm trying to say. > 1-The family history Library has already released thousands of documents that we have been able to view online from the comfort of my own home for awhile. > 2-they have been phasing out the use of microfilm over this past summer and said they would be releasing more records that could be accessed digitally. The only problem was we had no indication about which records would become digital immediately. > 3-some records can only be viewed at a family history center and some can be viewed anywhere one has online access. > 4-these New York records that I was able to view yesterday are only able to be viewed at a family history center. I don't know if that will be the long-term or intermediate plan. > 5-even if they only can be viewed in your local family history center, the fact that you can bring your own computer and view and download them as if you were at home means EVERY family history center will have these records and no pre-ordering is required. This is fantastic. > 6-my own take on the situation is that this definitely opens access for the New York city researcher. It may mean that the local family history center libraries will be busier but if one brings their own computer then the busyness should have little impact on the individual researcher. > I hope that I was able to be clear about the change but if you have any questions ask away. > Gail > > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I only had two hours so unfortunately I was just looking at the ones that were on my list and those were all marriage and death records from the 1860s through 1880. According to the conversation around me and the records that I found this is what I know so far: death records and marriage records and some birth records. I know that some of the people in the family history center where I was were scrambling to put together help sheets or cheat sheets so that folks would know. Everything was all so new. I am sure more information will be forthcoming over the next few weeks. If you search at home the icons that you mention Virginia will help folks know which records are available in the family history center is and which ones are available online for everyone. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Sep 8, 2017, at 15:47, VLB <vlbcfb@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I heard this from someone else but I still don't see the NYC bmd's with any icon in their catalog. The little camera means you have to go to an FHL; the larger camera means you can see the image at home. Can you give some examples of what's available for NYC? > thanks, Vrginia > > > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > > I am on Long Island visiting family and went to Plainview family history center while here. I heard that they had tons of New York city vital records micro films in stock so that was my purpose. > Imagine my happy surprise to find out that thousands and thousands of actual certificates that had been digitalized were just released and were available for direct viewing at the center with out using microfilm. I was even able to download the ones that I accessed to my very own computer. >