Elizabeth,The same thing is happening to me. I have spent a fair amount of time researching and sending info, only to have it never appear.  Very frustrating as we can all learn from each other.Virginia From: Elizabeth Knowlton <knowltonew@earthlink.net> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 3:42 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test OK, all the long, detailed responses I have given the list with answers to your questions have never appeared, but this one did. Thank you for response.  If anyone else has something to say to me, please email just me directly, not the list because I know how tiresome it is. I will try to help again in the future but have no idea why none of my posts went through. Elizabeth On 10/31/2017 9:35 AM, nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 06:53:38 -0400 > From: Elizabeth Knowlton<knowltonew@earthlink.net> > To:nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test > > Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I > post on it appears. > -- Elizabeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now has downloaded Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 31, 2017, at 4:30 PM, VLB <vlbcfb@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Elizabeth,The same thing is happening to me. I have spent a fair amount of time researching and sending info, only to have it never appear. Very frustrating as we can all learn from each other.Virginia > > From: Elizabeth Knowlton <knowltonew@earthlink.net> > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 3:42 PM > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test > > OK, all the long, detailed responses I have given the list with answers > to your questions have never appeared, but this one did. > Thank you for response. If anyone else has something to say to me, > please email just me directly, not the list because I know how tiresome > it is. > I will try to help again in the future but have no idea why none of my > posts went through. > Elizabeth > >> On 10/31/2017 9:35 AM, nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 06:53:38 -0400 >> From: Elizabeth Knowlton<knowltonew@earthlink.net> >> To:nyc-roots@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test >> >> Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I >> post on it appears. >> -- Elizabeth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Won’t download Sent from my iPhone On Oct 31, 2017, at 3:42 PM, Elizabeth Knowlton <knowltonew@earthlink.net> wrote:

So am I! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 31, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am seeing your email, Elizabeth. > > Lisa > > On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Elizabeth Knowlton < > knowltonew@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I post >> on it appears. >> -- >> Elizabeth >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK, all the long, detailed responses I have given the list with answers to your questions have never appeared, but this one did. Thank you for response.  If anyone else has something to say to me, please email just me directly, not the list because I know how tiresome it is. I will try to help again in the future but have no idea why none of my posts went through. Elizabeth On 10/31/2017 9:35 AM, nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 06:53:38 -0400 > From: Elizabeth Knowlton<knowltonew@earthlink.net> > To:nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test > > Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I > post on it appears. > -- Elizabeth

I am seeing your email, Elizabeth. Lisa On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Elizabeth Knowlton < knowltonew@earthlink.net> wrote: > Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I post > on it appears. > -- > Elizabeth > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have had that problem for months.Virginia From: Elizabeth Knowlton <knowltonew@earthlink.net> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:53 AM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I post on it appears. -- Elizabeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No bother at all Elizabeth. Hope this post to you helps somewhat...Been there done that . It has to be a "thinghy" with good ole Roots Web...LOL The Internet works in strange ways the wonder it beholds....etc something like that...Enjoy the day and the Halloween Goblins... -----Original Message----- From: NYC-ROOTS [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces+myperidot=verizon.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Knowlton Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:54 AM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I post on it appears. -- Elizabeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can see this post ... Elizabeth Knowlton Charlene D. McCarthy May your life be long, your heart be true May your path be clear and your skies be blue May your soul be happy, your spirit light May you know great joy, your dreams take flight "Is gaire cabhair Dé ná an doras" -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Knowlton <knowltonew@earthlink.net> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 31, 2017 5:53 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I post on it appears. -- Elizabeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This post appeared... Denise Irwin Pets007@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Knowlton <knowltonew@earthlink.net> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 31, 2017 6:53 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I post on it appears. -- Elizabeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry to bother you all, but although I can read this list, nothing I post on it appears. -- Elizabeth

As others have already said, it really depends on how the locality recorded the record. I know that for some of the records I've accessed there is an index either at the beginning or end of the film (Italian birth/marriage/death records). With others there is an index in a separate film altogether (i.e. NY Land Records, Probate records). Others are sorted by name, or date, or a combination of the two (i.e. NYC Marriage Index). Still others by date, locality and certificate number. Which Irish records were you trying to access? Perhaps we can figure out how it might work for that specific record. :) Debbie > On Oct 30, 2017, at 1:24 AM, Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> wrote: > > This question is not specific to either of these groups but I thought > perhaps someone here in my be able to answer my question or give me a > suggestion as far as where to go for an answer. > > When searching familysearch.org and a record lists the microfilm number > that the record was transcribed from, is there a way to figure out how to > narrow things down to find the record that the transcription comes from? > > For example I have a film for the quarterly returns of births in Ireland > and the microfilm number - 101148 was given. I was in my local family > history Library and pulled up the film the other day. There were 559 images > on that microfilm and because I was in their local library I was able to > see each image. I could not however figure out how things were organized so > that I did not have to individually look at every single page. > > So basically my question is - is there a way to be able to narrow down > which image range Irish records are organized or does anyone know who I > could write you or call to get the answer? Finding an image when there is a > certificate number or other definitive way of narrowing things down I know > how to do. It's the Irish records that I'm having an issue with. > > Thanks in advance, > Gail Jorgensen

It would depend on how the municipality recorded them at the time. Each locality, country, year could be different. For example Germany was very organized very early — being German! Try to find if there’s an Index for that film. Or just enjoy scrolling! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 30, 2017, at 1:24 AM, Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> wrote: > > This question is not specific to either of these groups but I thought > perhaps someone here in my be able to answer my question or give me a > suggestion as far as where to go for an answer. > > When searching familysearch.org and a record lists the microfilm number > that the record was transcribed from, is there a way to figure out how to > narrow things down to find the record that the transcription comes from? > > For example I have a film for the quarterly returns of births in Ireland > and the microfilm number - 101148 was given. I was in my local family > history Library and pulled up the film the other day. There were 559 images > on that microfilm and because I was in their local library I was able to > see each image. I could not however figure out how things were organized so > that I did not have to individually look at every single page. > > So basically my question is - is there a way to be able to narrow down > which image range Irish records are organized or does anyone know who I > could write you or call to get the answer? Finding an image when there is a > certificate number or other definitive way of narrowing things down I know > how to do. It's the Irish records that I'm having an issue with. > > Thanks in advance, > Gail Jorgensen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

both came thru -----Original Message----- From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: NYC-roots-L <NYC-roots-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 30, 2017 1:32 pm Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] test my last message came back undeliverable. has anyone else had any problems? gail ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This question is not specific to either of these groups but I thought perhaps someone here in my be able to answer my question or give me a suggestion as far as where to go for an answer. When searching familysearch.org and a record lists the microfilm number that the record was transcribed from, is there a way to figure out how to narrow things down to find the record that the transcription comes from? For example I have a film for the quarterly returns of births in Ireland and the microfilm number - 101148 was given. I was in my local family history Library and pulled up the film the other day. There were 559 images on that microfilm and because I was in their local library I was able to see each image. I could not however figure out how things were organized so that I did not have to individually look at every single page. So basically my question is - is there a way to be able to narrow down which image range Irish records are organized or does anyone know who I could write you or call to get the answer? Finding an image when there is a certificate number or other definitive way of narrowing things down I know how to do. It's the Irish records that I'm having an issue with. Thanks in advance, Gail Jorgensen

my last message came back undeliverable. has anyone else had any problems? gail

Burgenlaenderin@aol.com  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device-------- Original message --------From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> Date: 9/20/2017 9:57 PM (GMT-05:00) To: mmooney17 <mmooney17@nyc.rr.com> Cc: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com, nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] [BKLYN] Marriages in Manhattan and Rev. C F E Stohlman Mary Ann, I found some of what you found but you found more and the more is exactly what I need!! I will contact St Matthew's by snail mail tomorrow. Fingers crossed that they have the marriage records and that it lists the town in Germany my second great grandparents were from!! Thanks again, Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 4:18 PM, <mmooney17@nyc.rr.com> wrote: > Hi Gail, I googled "CFE Stohlman minister and got: > > http://thehistorybox.com/ny_city/nycity_worship_lutheran_ > church_brief__history_article00575.htm > > When St. Matthew's Church was sold in 1826, as before stated, it was > purchased by an individual, who sold it in a few days after to the German > congregation of the "Swamp Church." Having thus two houses of worship, an > attempt was made to form as English Lutheran congregation in St. Matthew's > Church, while preaching in the German language was continued in the Swamp > Church; and to effect this, the Rev. F.W. Geissenhainer, Jr., was called to > officiate in the English language in St. Matthew's Church his father > remaining with the German congregation in the "Swamp Church." But the > experiment did not succeed well, and after about four years the Swamp > Church was sold, as before stated, and the German congregation removed to > St. Matthew's Church, the service being conducted interchangeably in German > and English. This arrangement continued a few years, when, the English > congregation dwindling away, the service in German was introduced entire. > On the death of Dr. Geissenhainer, in 1838, the Rev. C.F.E. Stohlman was > elected as his successor, to officiate in the German language, and has > continued to labor with increasing success to the present day. > > In 1842, Mr. Geissenhainer, Jr., resigned his charge in St. Matthew's > Church, and commenced a new enterprise in the Sixth Avenue. A house of > worship was erected at the corner of Fifteenth street, and a congregation > gathered there. It is styled "The Evangelical Lutheran Church." > > There are some more detailed paragraphs in this interesting internet site. > It is an old write-up and you will find more useable information from this > site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelical_Lutheran_Church_ > of_St._Matthew_(New_York_City)  {I googled St. Mathew's Church, New York > City} > > The Evangelical Lutheran Church of St. Matthew is the oldest Lutheran > congregation in North America. The congregation is a member of the Lutheran > Church–Missouri Synod. Since 2006, the congregation has been located at the > Cornerstone Center, 178 Bennett Avenue in Manhattan, New York City. The > congregation has been known by different names, only acquiring the name St. > Matthew in 1822 and using it exclusively since 1838.[ > > Gail, you can contact the current church, and if that does not get what > you want, then contact the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod directly. I > vaguely remember contacting them years and they were very helpful. Those > are truly historic old records and their Church archivist/historian will > know where they are. >    Good luck, Mary Ann > > > ---- Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> wrote: > > Through a New York City record I found the marriage of my second great > grandparents in 1863 in New York City performed by Rev CFE Stohlman. > > I looked on Ancestry and it does not look like church records for this > area and time period appear to be one of their holdings. > > I know how to search and find Catholic records in New York City for > marriages but have no idea how to find these German Lutheran church > records. Does anyone here have any idea about who to contact? > > Thanks and advance, > > Gail Jorgensen > > > > > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Page 110 https://books.google.com/books?id=OXIFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA110&dq=Rev.+C.+F.+E.+Stohlman&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH7rHtg9bWAhXG5CYKHWdDBtkQ6AEIOzAE#v=onepage&q=Rev.%20C.%20F.%20E.%20Stohlman&f=false -----Original Message----- From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> Thanks Bob.....now that I have the name of the church (I was only able to find that he was with The Evangelical Lutheran Church), does anyone know where the records for this time frame and parish would be located? I have been searching but so far no luck. I wrote to archives@elca.org, which is an email address for the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America to see what they would say and I am waiting for a reply. I would not think that I am the first to seek out Lutheran records. There are some (multiple) church films available through familysearch but none that hit the nail on the head so I think I may have to go to my local FHC and read through (one by one) any that fit the year I am searching, 1863. Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > A General Synod minister, the *Rev. C. F. E. Stohlman*, of St. Matthew's > Church in *New York* City > > Bob,

FindMyPast is digitizing all the records for the archdioceses of New York, Philadelphia and Baltimore.  Some Philly records are already online on their site. They include images--I got one from Philly.  No NY online yet.  The downside is that this is a pay site but they have to get their money back--very expensive project. I too always ask for photocopies. It's hard as the books are large and fragile but so far, so good.Virginia From: Jeanne Torre <jtorre@prodigy.net> Barb, It would be so lovely if the RC churches would scan their records and make them available since guessing at the parish can be a long shot and some churches just don't reply.  I'm still seeking another of my Irish lines -- have drawn a blank at the 8-10 churches I contacted for their children and their marriage.  Ah well, it wouldn't be fun if it was easy! Jeanne