I didn't know they are now owned by Ancestry. Hope they stay free. Lisa https://www.familytreemagazine.com/articles/news-blogs/genealogy_insider/new-find-a-grave-website/

CT "affiliate" libraries CANNOT get NYC digitization of original records. Also, some LDS listed "affiliate libraries" are not functional. * From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> I did not realize that affiliated libraries lost access. Fingers crossed that this is just until they work out copyright issues. Gail VLB <vlbcfb@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It's important to note a huge negative change for NYC records on FamilySearch. When they ended the microfilm service and digitized the records, they ended access at FHL affiliated libraries. I had been able to order microfilm and view and print certs at my local public library. After digitization, for a few weeks I could see the certs on a computer at my library. That ended fast. Now you have to go to an actual FHL to see the records--not affiliates. The one nearest me is actually far away and is only open two days a week. This has been a catastrophe for my research and I'm sure for many others. Virginia

Good for the Anglican and/or Episcopal Church for allowing this to happen. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Dec 20, 2017, at 21:17, MizScarlettNY <mizscarlettny@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Here's a video about NYGBS digitizing Trinity Church records.>>> >> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32q_Lm6Y-W8 >> >> >> >> >> >> Enjoy! >> >> >> Barb >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NJBERGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's important to note a huge negative change for NYC records on FamilySearch.  When they ended the microfilm service and digitized the records, they ended access at FHL affiliated libraries.  I had been able to order microfilm and view and print certs at my local public library.  After digitization, for a few weeks I could see the certs on a computer at my library.  That ended fast.  Now you have to go to an actual FHL to see the records--not affiliates.  The one nearest me is actually far away and is only open two days a week.  This has been a catastrophe for my research and I'm sure for many others.  Virginia From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch True true. But for those who do not have a need or desire or are doing research on sidelines like siblings of grandparents etc. the solution I mention is sufficient. Most of these old records do have place of death and cause of death. Merry Christmas Robert Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Dec 17, 2017, at 05:05, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > There  is  a radical  difference  between  seeing  a  digitized  record as  opposed  to  the  actual  cert. > The  digitized  record  is  far  from  complete.  i.e  no  cause  of  death..Has  ghome  address  rather > than  place  pf  death  for  my  ancetors > > **************************************************************************************************************** > > > They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be > viewed in ANY FH > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Dec 17, 2017 12:12 am > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch > > They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be > viewed in ANY FHC. > To check it out, go online at home (or anywhere) and go to the film > listing. On the right side of the film there is a camera if the documents > are digitized. If there is a key over the camera, their contractual > agreements with the vendor of the documents will not allow them to be > viewed online except in the FHC or FHL or family history affiliated > library. If there is no key over the camera, those can be viewed anywhere. > Gail > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > >> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:05 PM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: >> >> What state do you use a FHC where they have NYC certs? >> Not every FHC has access to NYC certs. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> >> Lisa and everyone else. >> Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the >> beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on >> microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you >> have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. >> With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I >> take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, >> https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. >> I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open >> the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am >> there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. >> As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be >> busy for awhile >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I did not realize that affiliated libraries lost access. Fingers crossed that this is just until they work out copyright issues. Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Dec 19, 2017, at 09:28, VLB <vlbcfb@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It's important to note a huge negative change for NYC records on FamilySearch. When they ended the microfilm service and digitized the records, they ended access at FHL affiliated libraries. I had been able to order microfilm and view and print certs at my local public library. After digitization, for a few weeks I could see the certs on a computer at my library. That ended fast. Now you have to go to an actual FHL to see the records--not affiliates. The one nearest me is actually far away and is only open two days a week. This has been a catastrophe for my research and I'm sure for many others. Virginia > > From: Gail Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch > > True true. > But for those who do not have a need or desire or are doing research on sidelines like siblings of grandparents etc. the solution I mention is sufficient. > Most of these old records do have place of death and cause of death. > Merry Christmas Robert > Gail > > Sent from my AT&T iPhone. > ~ Gail ~ > >> On Dec 17, 2017, at 05:05, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: >> >> >> There is a radical difference between seeing a digitized record as opposed to the actual cert. >> The digitized record is far from complete. i.e no cause of death..Has ghome address rather >> than place pf death for my ancetors >> >> **************************************************************************************************************** >> >> >> They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be >> viewed in ANY FH >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> >> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sun, Dec 17, 2017 12:12 am >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch >> >> They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be >> viewed in ANY FHC. >> To check it out, go online at home (or anywhere) and go to the film >> listing. On the right side of the film there is a camera if the documents >> are digitized. If there is a key over the camera, their contractual >> agreements with the vendor of the documents will not allow them to be >> viewed online except in the FHC or FHL or family history affiliated >> library. If there is no key over the camera, those can be viewed anywhere. >> Gail >> >> ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ >> >>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:05 PM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: >>> >>> What state do you use a FHC where they have NYC certs? >>> Not every FHC has access to NYC certs. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> >>> Lisa and everyone else. >>> Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the >>> beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on >>> microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you >>> have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. >>> With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I >>> take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, >>> https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. >>> I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open >>> the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am >>> there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. >>> As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be >>> busy for awhile >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

True true. But for those who do not have a need or desire or are doing research on sidelines like siblings of grandparents etc. the solution I mention is sufficient. Most of these old records do have place of death and cause of death. Merry Christmas Robert Gail Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Dec 17, 2017, at 05:05, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > > > There is a radical difference between seeing a digitized record as opposed to the actual cert. > The digitized record is far from complete. i.e no cause of death..Has ghome address rather > than place pf death for my ancetors > > **************************************************************************************************************** > > > They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be > viewed in ANY FH > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sun, Dec 17, 2017 12:12 am > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch > > They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be > viewed in ANY FHC. > To check it out, go online at home (or anywhere) and go to the film > listing. On the right side of the film there is a camera if the documents > are digitized. If there is a key over the camera, their contractual > agreements with the vendor of the documents will not allow them to be > viewed online except in the FHC or FHL or family history affiliated > library. If there is no key over the camera, those can be viewed anywhere. > Gail > > ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ > >> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:05 PM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: >> >> What state do you use a FHC where they have NYC certs? >> Not every FHC has access to NYC certs. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> >> Lisa and everyone else. >> Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the >> beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on >> microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you >> have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. >> With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I >> take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, >> https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. >> I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open >> the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am >> there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. >> As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be >> busy for awhile >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a radical difference between seeing a digitized record as opposed to the actual cert. The digitized record is far from complete. i.e no cause of death..Has ghome address rather than place pf death for my ancetors **************************************************************************************************************** They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be viewed in ANY FH -----Original Message----- From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Dec 17, 2017 12:12 am Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be viewed in ANY FHC. To check it out, go online at home (or anywhere) and go to the film listing. On the right side of the film there is a camera if the documents are digitized. If there is a key over the camera, their contractual agreements with the vendor of the documents will not allow them to be viewed online except in the FHC or FHL or family history affiliated library. If there is no key over the camera, those can be viewed anywhere. Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:05 PM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: > What state do you use a FHC where they have NYC certs? > Not every FHC has access to NYC certs. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > Lisa and everyone else. > Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the > beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on > microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you > have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. > With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I > take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, > https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. > I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open > the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am > there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. > As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be > busy for awhile > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What state do you use a FHC where they have NYC certs? Not every FHC has access to NYC certs. -----Original Message----- From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> Lisa and everyone else. Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be busy for awhile

imagine if you could download originals from home for a fee? -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> Yep, I'm aware of that. I just meant that, in the past, they could justify those types of charges. I think charging access for online records is a different ballgame. At least I hope so! :)

yes that would be nice but remember where we were just a few short years ago! I am so appreciative for where we are now. Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:01 PM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: > imagine if you could download originals from home for a fee? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > > Yep, I'm aware of that. I just meant that, in the past, they could justify > those types of charges. I think charging access for online records is a > different ballgame. At least I hope so! :) > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

They all do, since digitalization. If a film is digitized then they can be viewed in ANY FHC. To check it out, go online at home (or anywhere) and go to the film listing. On the right side of the film there is a camera if the documents are digitized. If there is a key over the camera, their contractual agreements with the vendor of the documents will not allow them to be viewed online except in the FHC or FHL or family history affiliated library. If there is no key over the camera, those can be viewed anywhere. Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:05 PM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: > What state do you use a FHC where they have NYC certs? > Not every FHC has access to NYC certs. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen <gailjmom@gmail.com> > Lisa and everyone else. > Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the > beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on > microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you > have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. > With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I > take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, > https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. > I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open > the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am > there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. > As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be > busy for awhile > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lisa and everyone else. Many, many NY City records are now available (and have been since the beginning of September) digitally that were once only available on microfilm. The only downside, though to me it is no biggie, is that you have to view them at a FHL or FHC or affiliated library. With the availability of birth and marriage and death indexes, from home I take the cert # and look up the film number using Steve Morse's tool, https://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html. I then go into my local FHL or FHC or affiliated library with my list, open the film, download to my thumb drive and in the 3 hours or so that I am there, leave with 50+ records to examine when I get back home. As reclaim the records obtains more records, I am thinking that I will be busy for awhile Gail ~ Gail Schinnerer Jorgensen ~ On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm not worried that they will begin to charge. Their records are > transcribed by volunteers and finding ancestors is central to their > religion, so they will always need to have these records. Being a church, I > think it could get sticky if they start to charge, since they are tax > exempt and not a business. Charging for photocopies or even rental fees on > films can be charged to an actual physical cost (photocpying, postage) for > specific records. Since they already have the records, the website, etc for > their own members, they'd have to justify charging - where's the additional > cost? > > It's possible I guess, but I'm not (personally) too worried. I do wish, > however, that they'd update / add some more NYC records. Some NJ records > will be helpful, too. I'm probably not the only NYC researcher who has > ancestors who moved out of, or into, NJ (especially the Newark area). > > Lisa > > > On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:23 AM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: > > > FamilySearch.org forewarned that folks need to register to use. > > > > > > Although it is presently free for registered folks to use, > > am I the only one who's suspicious that *free* may change? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > > > > These took effect today. In a nutshell, you are now required to have an > > account and log in to view any records. Some records that were previously > > available online will no longer be. Some will return online and some will > > not. > > > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2017/12/12/starting- > tomorrow/?utm_source= > > feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ > > TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That was discontinued. They no longer make photo copies or rent microfilm ********************************************************************************************************* Charging for photocopies or even rental fees on films can be charged to an actual physical cost (photocpying -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Dec 16, 2017 1:54 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch I'm not worried that they will begin to charge. Their records are transcribed by volunteers and finding ancestors is central to their religion, so they will always need to have these records. Being a church, I think it could get sticky if they start to charge, since they are tax exempt and not a business. Charging for photocopies or even rental fees on films can be charged to an actual physical cost (photocpying, postage) for specific records. Since they already have the records, the website, etc for their own members, they'd have to justify charging - where's the additional cost? It's possible I guess, but I'm not (personally) too worried. I do wish, however, that they'd update / add some more NYC records. Some NJ records will be helpful, too. I'm probably not the only NYC researcher who has ancestors who moved out of, or into, NJ (especially the Newark area). Lisa On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:23 AM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: > FamilySearch.org forewarned that folks need to register to use. > > > Although it is presently free for registered folks to use, > am I the only one who's suspicious that *free* may change? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > > These took effect today. In a nutshell, you are now required to have an > account and log in to view any records. Some records that were previously > available online will no longer be. Some will return online and some will > not. > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2017/12/12/starting-tomorrow/?utm_source= > feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ > TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yep, I'm aware of that. I just meant that, in the past, they could justify those types of charges. I think charging access for online records is a different ballgame. At least I hope so! :) Lisa On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> wrote: > That was discontinued. They no longer make photo copies or > rent microfilm > > ************************************************************ > ********************************************* > > Charging for photocopies or even rental fees on > films can be charged to an actual physical cost (photocpying > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sat, Dec 16, 2017 1:54 pm > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fwd: changes at FamilySearch > > I'm not worried that they will begin to charge. Their records are > transcribed by volunteers and finding ancestors is central to their > religion, so they will always need to have these records. Being a church, I > think it could get sticky if they start to charge, since they are tax > exempt and not a business. Charging for photocopies or even rental fees on > films can be charged to an actual physical cost (photocpying, postage) for > specific records. Since they already have the records, the website, etc for > their own members, they'd have to justify charging - where's the additional > cost? > > It's possible I guess, but I'm not (personally) too worried. I do wish, > however, that they'd update / add some more NYC records. Some NJ records > will be helpful, too. I'm probably not the only NYC researcher who has > ancestors who moved out of, or into, NJ (especially the Newark area). > > Lisa > > > On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:23 AM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: > > > FamilySearch.org forewarned that folks need to register to use. > > > > > > Although it is presently free for registered folks to use, > > am I the only one who's suspicious that *free* may change? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > > > > These took effect today. In a nutshell, you are now required to have an > > account and log in to view any records. Some records that were previously > > available online will no longer be. Some will return online and some will > > not. > > > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2017/12/12/starting- > tomorrow/?utm_source= > > feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ > > TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

I'm not worried that they will begin to charge. Their records are transcribed by volunteers and finding ancestors is central to their religion, so they will always need to have these records. Being a church, I think it could get sticky if they start to charge, since they are tax exempt and not a business. Charging for photocopies or even rental fees on films can be charged to an actual physical cost (photocpying, postage) for specific records. Since they already have the records, the website, etc for their own members, they'd have to justify charging - where's the additional cost? It's possible I guess, but I'm not (personally) too worried. I do wish, however, that they'd update / add some more NYC records. Some NJ records will be helpful, too. I'm probably not the only NYC researcher who has ancestors who moved out of, or into, NJ (especially the Newark area). Lisa On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 10:23 AM, <metronycancestry@aol.com> wrote: > FamilySearch.org forewarned that folks need to register to use. > > > Although it is presently free for registered folks to use, > am I the only one who's suspicious that *free* may change? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > > These took effect today. In a nutshell, you are now required to have an > account and log in to view any records. Some records that were previously > available online will no longer be. Some will return online and some will > not. > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2017/12/12/starting-tomorrow/?utm_source= > feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ > TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

FamilySearch.org forewarned that folks need to register to use. Although it is presently free for registered folks to use, am I the only one who's suspicious that *free* may change? -----Original Message----- From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> These took effect today. In a nutshell, you are now required to have an account and log in to view any records. Some records that were previously available online will no longer be. Some will return online and some will not. http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2017/12/12/starting-tomorrow/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29

It has to do with contractual obligations with providers of the records. Family search has to have more control over who views the site. Sent from my AT&T iPhone. ~ Gail ~ > On Dec 16, 2017, at 09:23, metronycancestry@aol.com wrote: > > FamilySearch.org forewarned that folks need to register to use. > > > Although it is presently free for registered folks to use, > am I the only one who's suspicious that *free* may change? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > > These took effect today. In a nutshell, you are now required to have an > account and log in to view any records. Some records that were previously > available online will no longer be. Some will return online and some will > not. > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2017/12/12/starting-tomorrow/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Too much genealogy keeping you up nights :) On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> wrote: > I"m so sorry! You are correct, these changes are in effect at Family > Search. (Sorry - lack of sleep.) > > Lisa > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Liz Ha <lizharen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Appears to be changes at FamilySearch.org, not Ancestry. > > > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > These took effect today. In a nutshell, you are now required to have an > > > account and log in to view any records. Some records that were > previously > > > available online will no longer be. Some will return online and some > will > > > not. > > > > > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2017/12/12/starting- > > tomorrow/?utm_source= > > > feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ > > > TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 > > > > > > Lisa > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Unfortunately no, just stress. :( Lisa ​

I"m so sorry! You are correct, these changes are in effect at Family Search. (Sorry - lack of sleep.) Lisa On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Liz Ha <lizharen@gmail.com> wrote: > Appears to be changes at FamilySearch.org, not Ancestry. > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > These took effect today. In a nutshell, you are now required to have an > > account and log in to view any records. Some records that were previously > > available online will no longer be. Some will return online and some will > > not. > > > > http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2017/12/12/starting- > tomorrow/?utm_source= > > feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ > > TheLegalGenealogist+%28The+Legal+Genealogist%29 > > > > Lisa > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >