According to this, the shared DNA is so little that I wonder how Ancestry.com and the other DNA testing companies can make links between 3rd and 4th cousins--and beyond?  Yet I see many matches that I already know are mine from records research.  Any explanations?   Virginia On ‎Friday‎, ‎June‎ ‎15‎, ‎2018‎ ‎10‎:‎04‎:‎17‎ ‎AM, Bob P via NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212170668-Average-percent-DNA-shared-between-relatives _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Good idea. Thanks for the suggestion. Virginia On ‎Friday‎, ‎June‎ ‎15‎, ‎2018‎ ‎12‎:‎32‎:‎56‎ ‎PM, metronycancestry--- via NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: Thanks for this, Bob. Since spam usually arrives with a link like this,WITHOUT greetings or a note, may we agree to post some sort of statement with all links? -----Original Message----- From: Bob P via NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: Bob P <rdpiet@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 15, 2018 10:04 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Inrteresting  -  Average percent DNA shared between relatives https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212170668-Average-percent-DNA-shared-between-relatives _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thanks for this, Bob. Since spam usually arrives with a link like this,WITHOUT greetings or a note, may we agree to post some sort of statement with all links? -----Original Message----- From: Bob P via NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: Bob P <rdpiet@aol.com> Sent: Fri, Jun 15, 2018 10:04 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Inrteresting - Average percent DNA shared between relatives https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212170668-Average-percent-DNA-shared-between-relatives

https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212170668-Average-percent-DNA-shared-between-relatives

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to trace someone who emigrated, from London to New York around 1985? I'm a bit short on details but the man I'm trying to trace will have information about a line in my family history. He left London around 1984/85 and had a Post Restante address in New York. I'm assuming he used that until he had a permanent address. I tried writing to him care of the address I had but my letter was returned. I would imagine he was in his late 20s when he left Britain. Can anyone suggest any lines which I might follow to trace him? Thanks in advance. Stuart Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the O2 network.

Lisa, There is an obit for Adam in a 1903 Deaf and Mutes Journal. You can find it by searching Adam's name at www.fultonhistory.com The site is free and has digitized newspapers. Regards, Sherri > Could someone with an Ancestry membership look up a record for me? I'm home > sick with strep, so a visit to the library or FHC is out of the question. :( > > New York, Episcopal diocese of NY > LEBRECHT, Adam > d: 1903 > > I have his date of death and I believe he's buried in Lutheran All Faiths, > but I'm interested in knowing any other info this record could provide. I > do believe there is an image of it, as well. > > Thanks in advance, > Lisa

--part1_37.68320cc.26795c78_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The NYPL collection of Newsday's on microfilm begins with January, 1959. It is labelled the Nassau edition. The Reference Librarian was not present to ask her why the collection only begins on this date. I am not familiar with Nassau (Long Island). I do remember that Newsday did not publish a NYC edition until years later. I don't know when Newsday began publishing. Perhaps you can do some research to determine if there were earlier editions. Possibly some former Nassau residents on the list might have some ideas. Margaret --part1_37.68320cc.26795c78_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <NYC-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb05.mail.aol.com (v74.10) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:39:49 2000 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.30]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (v74.16) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:39:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA03863; Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:37:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: khawk@voyager.net Mon Jun 12 07:37:48 2000 Message-ID: <002f01bfd47b$da7611a0$4d15abd0@pavilion> From: "Kim Hawkins" <khawk@voyager.net> Old-To: "nyc" <NYC-roots-l@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:38:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Subject: [NYC] I need a lookup please Resent-Message-ID: <gbJdXD.A.I8.9WPR5@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/26113 X-Loop: NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: NYC-ROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Hi, I was wondering if someone could do a lookup for me in the NY newsday? I tried to get the microfilm but I live in Northern Michigan and my librarian is having a hard time finding anyone who will do an interlibrary loan on the microfilm. I am looking for the article about my great aunt Margaret GROB who was murdered in Queens. I did receive a copy of the article from the times but would also like the copy from the newsday. i have half of the article but the 2nd page is missing. It should be in the Newsday for the date Jan. 6, 1955 It is titled "HUNT NEIGHBOR OF SLAIN CHOIR GIRL" if its not too much trouble could you also look for a followup article about if they ever found her killer? I would suspect that it would be printed within a few days of this above mentioned article. I think the first page of the article is on page 3 S but dont quote me on tha

Lisa, he is listed in the St. Ann's Church for Deaf-Mutes although he is a hearing man. Has anyone sent you the image yet? If not, I could contact you to your private email address. Regards, Lynne Kemp. Sent from Outlook<http://aka.ms/weboutlook> ________________________________ From: Lisa Thompson <pupsnpaper@gmail.com> Sent: June 13, 2018 11:03 AM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Ancestry request Could someone with an Ancestry membership look up a record for me? I'm home sick with strep, so a visit to the library or FHC is out of the question. :( New York, Episcopal diocese of NY LEBRECHT, Adam d: 1903 I have his date of death and I believe he's buried in Lutheran All Faiths, but I'm interested in knowing any other info this record could provide. I do believe there is an image of it, as well. Thanks in advance, Lisa _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2Frootswebpref&data=02%7C01%7C%7C677296f2a5334465b1eb08d5d1474f78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636645026552637703&sdata=naRDqRFpIRq3oe2aTypowZPuJrfQWQfOMNqw1m%2BFbEo%3D&reserved=0 Unsubscribe https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fpostorius%2Flists%2Fnyc-roots%40rootsweb.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C677296f2a5334465b1eb08d5d1474f78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636645026552637703&sdata=GlRgIw3DIgvoEpmhxYGZj4tU1wg%2BHK%2F6an5d2ElfYkw%3D&reserved=0 Archives: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.rootsweb.ancestry.com%2Fhyperkitty%2Flist%2Fnyc-roots%40rootsweb.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C677296f2a5334465b1eb08d5d1474f78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636645026552637703&sdata=3ckEBGX0IC038cKmNGSxowtk%2F3B8QbWxwDfImfxPKI8%3D&reserved=0 Privacy Statement: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2JWBOdY&data=02%7C01%7C%7C677296f2a5334465b1eb08d5d1474f78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636645026552637703&sdata=5imK3dE3lHZ0QG4xefs%2BnfwZvPbzb9eTgVR4NmNNx54%3D&reserved=0 Terms and Conditions: https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fancstry.me%2F2HDBym9&data=02%7C01%7C%7C677296f2a5334465b1eb08d5d1474f78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636645026552637703&sdata=0XEyLriiluOvxvQBZFWNgsa7CoaaQx3TgxNWVWf0y%2Fs%3D&reserved=0 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Could someone with an Ancestry membership look up a record for me? I'm home sick with strep, so a visit to the library or FHC is out of the question. :( New York, Episcopal diocese of NY LEBRECHT, Adam d: 1903 I have his date of death and I believe he's buried in Lutheran All Faiths, but I'm interested in knowing any other info this record could provide. I do believe there is an image of it, as well. Thanks in advance, Lisa

Great discussion of DNA on line here.     Want to add a couple of things.  We need to keep stressing to Newbies that Ancestry and 23 offer only the autosomal DNA test. This is now much more useful than it used to be as far as matches go.  People who have not done genealogy before and don't already know their 2nd-5th cousins (or what they are) will be thrilled, I am sure, to get these matches.  I just have heard a lot of disappointed people saying, "Oh, I am 100% European, didn't learn anything."  Well, duh, yes.  Those of us doing genealogy for decades have already located many of those cousins by paper trails and mail (imagine that!).  And those cousins were happy to hear from me even when I had to explain what a second cousin was.     I keep saying that I think the autosomal test is most useful for mixed race people, those with adoption walls, and those who suspect infidelity in the line.     Yes, Ancestry has the largest database, but FamilytreeDNA offers the most tests.  I began with a small Y test on my brother's DNA, and have followed up by having about eight tests done on that same sample, the mt-DNA, ones with more markers on each, and finally the autosomal.  I even got my sister and me to take the latter because we DO have a paternal grandmother adoption ca. 1884 that has been a brick wall as long as I have known about it--and that took five years in itself.  No solution yet.     I am more interested in getting back farther with ancestors than in finding cousins, but to each her own, of course.  After 30 years of work, we finally have our surname place of origin in England due to London church records coming on line; but it is the Y DNA that told us specifically that the two brothers or their sons in Ipswich, MA, in the 17th century are not brothers or cousins at all.  So far the specific paternity event is only a guess, but we would never have known this without a Y test that looks at slow mutations over centuries.  The test also finally proved to some other descendants that our ancestor left Massachusetts early on and immigrated up the Hudson River.  No one believed me until we had the Y test done.     Debbie offers some great suggestions below, so I hope newbies will copy her post and refer to it as you learn more.  I just bought Blaine Bettinger's book on genetic genealogy, after borrowing it from the library, and am referring to it constantly. I used to be able to explain genetic genealogy to people, but it has now gathered speed and passed me by.  More and more is possible, so I hope I find out where my paternal grandmother came from before I die.     And, I don't brush off the autosomal test at all.  Just this month, I heard from an Irish second cousin whose family I know well.  She took the autosomal test and reached out to some near matches.  To our surprise, poor great uncle Bertie who we thought was childless was anything but.  On one of his engineering jobs out from Ireland to the West Indies in the 1940s, he left two daughters who were thrilled to find us and get photographs of their father.  Our tree has now added more people of color to the Japanese-Americans already in it.  Our heads spin with a tree world more diverse than we ever imagined. Elizabeth On 6/5/2018 11:31 AM, nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 11:21:11 -0400 > From: Debbie<debidub@gmail.com> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Re: DNA testing > To: NYC-ROOTS Rootsweb<nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>, > floridamarbil@gmail.com > Message-ID: > <CALUxgCUYnH5WeHzg3PapBUhHTFKG3h1K0At2Z1XBZg1Vwc2RrQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi Bill, > I've been working with DNA for a number of years now. A couple of thoughts > regarding your post. > > First, when it comes to the "ethnicity estimates," remember that they are > just that -- estimates. Each company develops an algorithm to make sense > of the data. Some of this is dependent on who is in their database, and > how big it is. That said, Ancestry's database is said to be the largest. As > more people test and the dataset improves, the algorithms are updated, and > the estimates get more accurate and more narrow -- being able to pinpoint > smaller regions. But, you will find differences in the estimates between > companies, and even with the same company over time as they tweak their > algorithm. > > Here is one article on the subject: > http://www.researchjournal.yourislandroutes.com/2018/01/dna-ethnicity-estimates-are-just-that-estimates/ > > Second, ethnicity estimates are most accurate at the continental level. > So, for example, you won't see things like "French," but instead "Western > Europe." With roots in Spain, you'd see "Western European' and "Iberian > Peninsula" and probably even some UK. We have to remember that between > wars and trade, there was a lot of intermingling of people. My Italian > roots show a mix of Italian/Greek, North African, Middle Eastern and > British. > > Third, DNA "washes out" with every generation. The saying goes that > "Everyone has two family trees -- a genealogical one and a genetic one." > For example, perhaps I had one great-great-great grandfather who was > Jewish. With every generation, the people in our family will have less and > less DNA from him. We will get to the point where the is a generation where > some, if not all, of the descendants don't have ANY Jewish DNA. We have > the paper trail to show he's an ancestor. Our older relatives have some of > his DNA. But, the youngest generation doesn't have any. > > This is my favorite article on the subject: > http://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2009/11/10/qa-everyone-has-two-family-trees-a-genealogical-tree-and-a-genetic-tree/ > > Finally, the DNA matches are very reliable and of more use to your > genealogy research. I'd focus my energy there. > > One of my all time favorite webinars on using DNA for genealogy is Blaine > Bettinger's 5-part series "The Foundations of DNA," which is offered > through Legacy. > > http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2016/08/foundations-in-dna-by-blaine-bettinger-now-available.html > > I hope this helps to address some of your questions! > Debbie

As you say, if a person has a paper trail DNA to me is not worth the expenditure. All you get at best is a second thru 5th cousin. without his lineage. -----Original Message----- From: J.H. <jnunnie@frontiernet.net> To: nynewyor <nynewyor@rootsweb.com>; NYC-ROOTS <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2018 11:17 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Re: [NYNEWYOR] Re: 23 and Me - question I want to thank everyone for helping me with my DNA question. You all sent out good information about this type of testing. Plus I found some distant cousins, which is helping too. I will not recommend this type of testing – good ole paper works better. I have generations of my family background history in birth, death & etc. cert. I appreciate you all answering very much, thanks again. June ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show that on either test. Some one told me they only do the “Mother” side – not the father on these DNA test. I find that hard to believe – Is that true?? Thanks for any info - June _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I took the Ancestry DNA test and got the results, which were interesting. Most seemed pretty accurate, although I was surprised that I was 2 % Asian (thought I was 100% European). Anyway, I sent my raw DNA to a few other places. The results from one of them seemed quite a bit different than the original from Ancestry. I have a great grandmother from Scotland (i have records indicating this is true). From one of the raw DNA tests, I have hardly any ancestors from Ireland, Scotland, or England. But I have an adequate amount from the original DNA test from Ancestry. I just took another DNA test from 23 and me. It will be interesting to see the results. Also, I have a friend who found out before her father died, that her father produced a step brother for her. She had never met him, nor did she know anything about where her half brother was to this day. Well, both my friend and her half brother had taken the DNA test, and they found each other through the results. The half brother still lived in the area, and they met for the first time about 3 years ago. My friend says that her half brother looks just like their dad. Susan S. Always looking for Guth, Grinlinton, Markwith, Grant, Gitz relatives and distant cousins

I want to thank everyone for helping me with my DNA question. You all sent out good information about this type of testing. Plus I found some distant cousins, which is helping too. I will not recommend this type of testing – good ole paper works better. I have generations of my family background history in birth, death & etc. cert. I appreciate you all answering very much, thanks again. June ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show that on either test. Some one told me they only do the “Mother” side – not the father on these DNA test. I find that hard to believe – Is that true?? Thanks for any info - June

Many good points have been made above. I have a piece of DNA in my old New Amsterdam lines that has passed down 4 generations only dropping one cm. DNA doesn’t always follow its own rules! I’ll add that the ethnicity predictors *can* be off in big ways; they are based on reference populations and they don’t always see you properly. The general consensus is that 23andme is best for ethnicity, Ancestry second, and FTDNA third. According to my paper trail, I should be about 12.5% Scandinavian. FTDNA’s ethnicity tool says that I’m not Scandinavian at all. It sees my father’s completely. But the truth can be found in the matches. I have hundreds of Scandinavian matches (the majority still living in Norway or Sweden and themselves 100% Scandinavian), and they show up at the proper distance, and the proper relationships to my lines. The point here is to take a hard look at your matches. If you are not finding any confirmation there, it could mean an NPE, adoption, or deliberate obfuscation of identity. I am dealing with a second cousin match to my father who’s grandfather abandoned family #1, and tweaked his identity by moving and changing his ethnicity before starting family #2. All of this man’s descendants have grown up thinking they were German, and they’re not. This match is really struggling to believe it, but the DNA is very clear. My own grandfather lied about his ethnicity and history and my grandmother only found out after they were married! Look at your matches, and test as many family members as you can. The ethnicity predictors can be valuable, but have to be taken with the proverbial grain of salt. Matches tell the tale. Good luck! On Tuesday, June 5, 2018, VLB via NYC-ROOTS <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The DNA we inherit varies a lot. I have a great-grandfather from northern > Spain, no, not Basque. Asturias! A number of us cousins, and my brother, > have taken Ancestry's DNA test. The amount of "Iberian"--Ancestry's > term--has varied a lot among us--from zero to 16%. It was a big surprise. > We all show as siblings or first cousins or second cousins and that has all > been completely accurate. No 'non-parental events'. > A great-grandparent means 12 1/2 % so I was dead on at 13% 'Iberian'. But > we are mostly Irish and many Irish are 1 or 2% Iberian so that can add a > bit--and there is a plus/minus percentage range built into these results. > We are all very proud of our distinguished Spanish family so those cousins > w little or no 'Iberian' were very disappointed. It was rather funny as > they are among those of us who inherited the Spanish surname and the > cousins with the very Irish surname have the most 'Iberian' DNA. > My brother and I share the same three ethnicities but in different > amounts. Point is--don't be quick to dismiss Ancestry's DNA. Good luck-- > Virginia > > > > From: Evelyn and Bill <floridamarbil@gmail.com> > > I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. > > I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show = > that on either test.=20 > > Some one told me they only do the =E2=80=9CMother=E2=80=9D side = > =E2=80=93 not the father on these DNA test. > I find that hard to believe =E2=80=93 Is that true?? > > I would like to add that I took the Ancestry DNA test and I could not find > ANY results regarding my mother's side of the family. > > My grandfather was born in Havana Cuba in 1890 and his entire family, all > the way back to the 1700's were Spanish/Cuban. I have copies of the > genealogy proving that, YET.... my DNA results do not show ANY Hispanic > roots. > > Kinda makes one feel that the DNA testing is not as accurate as I hoped it > was. > > Bill Hinkle > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Hi Bill, I've been working with DNA for a number of years now. A couple of thoughts regarding your post. First, when it comes to the "ethnicity estimates," remember that they are just that -- estimates. Each company develops an algorithm to make sense of the data. Some of this is dependent on who is in their database, and how big it is. That said, Ancestry's database is said to be the largest. As more people test and the dataset improves, the algorithms are updated, and the estimates get more accurate and more narrow -- being able to pinpoint smaller regions. But, you will find differences in the estimates between companies, and even with the same company over time as they tweak their algorithm. Here is one article on the subject: http://www.researchjournal.yourislandroutes.com/2018/01/dna-ethnicity-estimates-are-just-that-estimates/ Second, ethnicity estimates are most accurate at the continental level. So, for example, you won't see things like "French," but instead "Western Europe." With roots in Spain, you'd see "Western European' and "Iberian Peninsula" and probably even some UK. We have to remember that between wars and trade, there was a lot of intermingling of people. My Italian roots show a mix of Italian/Greek, North African, Middle Eastern and British. Third, DNA "washes out" with every generation. The saying goes that "Everyone has two family trees -- a genealogical one and a genetic one." For example, perhaps I had one great-great-great grandfather who was Jewish. With every generation, the people in our family will have less and less DNA from him. We will get to the point where the is a generation where some, if not all, of the descendants don't have ANY Jewish DNA. We have the paper trail to show he's an ancestor. Our older relatives have some of his DNA. But, the youngest generation doesn't have any. This is my favorite article on the subject: http://thegeneticgenealogist.com/2009/11/10/qa-everyone-has-two-family-trees-a-genealogical-tree-and-a-genetic-tree/ Finally, the DNA matches are very reliable and of more use to your genealogy research. I'd focus my energy there. One of my all time favorite webinars on using DNA for genealogy is Blaine Bettinger's 5-part series "The Foundations of DNA," which is offered through Legacy. http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2016/08/foundations-in-dna-by-blaine-bettinger-now-available.html I hope this helps to address some of your questions! Debbie ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 07:29:19 -0400 > From: Evelyn and Bill <floridamarbil@gmail.com> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] DNA testing > To: jnunnie@frontiernet.net, nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAK9oFL0oLBcRJhQpJhTMoUOVzX088_QN7T1NhtKr6_Muwg7qKA@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > In response to the post: > > I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. > > I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show = > that on either test.=20 > > Some one told me they only do the =E2=80=9CMother=E2=80=9D side = > =E2=80=93 not the father on these DNA test. > I find that hard to believe =E2=80=93 Is that true?? > > I would like to add that I took the Ancestry DNA test and I could not find > ANY results regarding my mother's side of the family. > > My grandfather was born in Havana Cuba in 1890 and his entire family, all > the way back to the 1700's were Spanish/Cuban. I have copies of the > genealogy proving that, YET.... my DNA results do not show ANY Hispanic > roots. > > Kinda makes one feel that the DNA testing is not as accurate as I hoped it > was. > > Bill Hinkle > > ------------------------------ >

The DNA we inherit varies a lot.  I have a great-grandfather from northern Spain, no, not Basque. Asturias!  A number of us cousins, and my brother, have taken Ancestry's DNA test.  The amount of "Iberian"--Ancestry's term--has varied a lot among us--from zero to 16%.  It was a big surprise.  We all show as siblings or first cousins or second cousins and that has all been completely accurate.  No 'non-parental events'. A great-grandparent means 12 1/2 % so I was dead on at 13% 'Iberian'.  But we are mostly Irish and many Irish are 1 or 2% Iberian so that can add a bit--and there is a plus/minus percentage range built into these results. We are all very proud of our distinguished Spanish family so those cousins w little or no 'Iberian' were very disappointed.  It was rather funny as they are among those of us who inherited the Spanish surname and the cousins with the very Irish surname have the most 'Iberian' DNA. My brother and I share the same three ethnicities but in different amounts.  Point is--don't be quick to dismiss Ancestry's DNA.   Good luck-- Virginia From: Evelyn and Bill <floridamarbil@gmail.com> I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show = that on either test.=20 Some one told me they only do the =E2=80=9CMother=E2=80=9D side = =E2=80=93 not the father on these DNA test. I find that hard to believe =E2=80=93 Is that true?? I would like to add that I took the Ancestry DNA test and I could not find ANY results regarding my mother's side of the family. My grandfather was born in Havana Cuba in 1890 and his entire family, all the way back to the 1700's were Spanish/Cuban.  I have copies of the genealogy proving that, YET.... my DNA results do not show ANY Hispanic roots. Kinda makes one feel that the DNA testing is not as accurate as I hoped it was. Bill Hinkle

My results were spot on. Found relatives I had forgotten I had. I am German, it found negligible German. Like you, I have cities Germans were from, etc. Turns out my approx 25% Scandinavian must be it.  Viking tribes. Perhaps at some point a child was adopted.  Or someone else fathered the child. This turned out to have happened in my family.  Also one case where family swore someone was a good chunk Cherokee and testing turned up zero.  And, of course, DNA testing is imperfect and.will only get better. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Evelyn and Bill <floridamarbil@gmail.com> Date: 6/5/18 7:29 AM (GMT-05:00) To: jnunnie@frontiernet.net, nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] DNA testing In response to the post: I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show = that on either test.=20 Some one told me they only do the =E2=80=9CMother=E2=80=9D side = =E2=80=93 not the father on these DNA test. I find that hard to believe =E2=80=93 Is that true?? I would like to add that I took the Ancestry DNA test and I could not find ANY results regarding my mother's side of the family. My grandfather was born in Havana Cuba in 1890 and his entire family, all the way back to the 1700's were Spanish/Cuban.  I have copies of the genealogy proving that, YET.... my DNA results do not show ANY Hispanic roots. Kinda makes one feel that the DNA testing is not as accurate as I hoped it was. Bill Hinkle _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

In response to the post: I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show = that on either test.=20 Some one told me they only do the =E2=80=9CMother=E2=80=9D side = =E2=80=93 not the father on these DNA test. I find that hard to believe =E2=80=93 Is that true?? I would like to add that I took the Ancestry DNA test and I could not find ANY results regarding my mother's side of the family. My grandfather was born in Havana Cuba in 1890 and his entire family, all the way back to the 1700's were Spanish/Cuban. I have copies of the genealogy proving that, YET.... my DNA results do not show ANY Hispanic roots. Kinda makes one feel that the DNA testing is not as accurate as I hoped it was. Bill Hinkle

Ancestry's test is autosomal--that is, it includes combined results from both your parents.  Look carefully at their results.  Certainly if you are 50% Italian, it should show some southern European or whatever they call Italian on Ancestry.  If you are much less than half Italian, it's possible for little or none to show up.  We all inherit different parts of our parents' DNA.  I don't know anything about 23 and me. Have heard it's more for health info.  Good luck, Virginia From: J. H. <jnunnie@frontiernet.net>   I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show that on either test.  Some one told me they only do the “Mother” side – not the father on these DNA test.I find that hard to believe – Is that true?? Thanks for any info - June

Just a note: I used Family Tree DNA who tests will detect inherited genetics from fathers. I know this since my own test showed my father's maternal ethnic lineage even though I am female. You can use the genetics of a male relative from the same family lineage to find out the lineage you are seeking. You might want to check into it. Marie On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:06 PM, J.H. <jnunnie@frontiernet.net> wrote: > I have done Ancestry & 23 and Me, DNA testing. > > I was always under the impression I was 1/2 Italian & it did not show that > on either test. [image: Sad smile] > > Some one told me they only do the “Mother” side – not the father on these > DNA test. > I find that hard to believe – Is that true?? > > Thanks for any info - June > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/ > nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ > > Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/ > nyc-roots@rootsweb.com/ > > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > >