Is anyone working with Robert Henry Dayton (born around 1843 in Long Island, married to Ceclia Hotaling) line? If so, I would love to hear from you. Liz _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5

Is anyone working with Albertson Family? I am looking for info for George W. Albertson and Ann Margaret (or sometimes listed as Margaret Ann, nee Dewar) in NY. Ann Margaret was born around 1894. I have found them in the 1930s census and they had three children Margaret, William and John (or Joe). I am looking for anyone who might have this famly in their tree. Liz _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4

Dutch official documents will show the name as for example my name Annemarie Healy-Kalishoek, Husbands name first then followed by the maiden name Except on birth records of the couple children in this case the maiden name of the mother will be there Spelling of a pre fix: Van Der Voorst or Van Voorst, all first letters of every word are capitalized in Dutch writing not the entire name -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rdpiet@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 7:27 PM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NAME HELP read all abut the Van prefix at _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_(Dutch_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_(Dutch) ) Usually only the first letter is capitalized but not the prefix.. If you are in Holland a dutch women never picks up her husbands name. She can get married 10 times and always retains her birth name. Most dutch data bases which go back to pre Napoleann list names as follows: Horst, van der If the womens name is in your ahnentafel then it is always the birth name. Why would u want to include a womens married name in family history ?? OK you wonderful "pros" and Dutch experts out there -- general question as I am working to edit my family history. When you have a Dutch last name like "Van Voorst," or "Van der Geldt" is the whole name capitalized: VAN VOORST within your text, or just "van VOORST?" Similarly, if you list the Dutch women do you always use their maiden name? e.g. Andries MEYER, Sr. and Geertie WESSELS MEYER or just Geertie WESSELS? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

read all abut the Van prefix at _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_(Dutch_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_(Dutch) ) Usually only the first letter is capitalized but not the prefix.. If you are in Holland a dutch women never picks up her husbands name. She can get married 10 times and always retains her birth name. Most dutch data bases which go back to pre Napoleann list names as follows: Horst, van der If the womens name is in your ahnentafel then it is always the birth name. Why would u want to include a womens married name in family history ?? OK you wonderful "pros" and Dutch experts out there -- general question as I am working to edit my family history. When you have a Dutch last name like "Van Voorst," or "Van der Geldt" is the whole name capitalized: VAN VOORST within your text, or just "van VOORST?" Similarly, if you list the Dutch women do you always use their maiden name? e.g. Andries MEYER, Sr. and Geertie WESSELS MEYER or just Geertie WESSELS?

Hi Pam, Although I am no Dutch expert, the "rule of thumb" on Ancestry.com, is try it every way you can. Just last week, I tped a family name into Ancestry in all caps, not my usual way, and found family data I never saw before. Another option is to try Heritage Quest available to NYPL card holders. Keep on keepin' on. Barb ============== sackettpjm@yahoo.com writes: > OK you wonderful "pros" and Dutch experts out there -- general question > as I am working to edit my family history. When you have a Dutch last name > like "Van Voorst," or "Van der Geldt" is the whole name capitalized: VAN > VOORST within your text, or just "van VOORST?" Similarly, if you list the > Dutch women do you always use their maiden name? e.g. > Andries MEYER, Sr. and Geertie WESSELS MEYER or just Geertie WESSELS? > > Just wondering,Pamela MYER SACKETTresearching MYER/MEYER of Lower > Manhattan

OK you wonderful "pros" and Dutch experts out there -- general question as I am working to edit my family history.  When you have a Dutch last name like "Van Voorst," or "Van der Geldt" is the whole name capitalized:  VAN VOORST within your text, or just "van VOORST?"  Similarly, if you list the Dutch women do you always use their maiden name? e.g. Andries MEYER, Sr. and Geertie WESSELS MEYER or just Geertie WESSELS? Just wondering,Pamela MYER SACKETTresearching MYER/MEYER of Lower Manhattan

Hi Gabrielle, I sincerely doubt the Municipal Archives would have them. Check their holdings at > http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/holdings.shtml Did you try Ancestry.com? How about the Historical NY Times? My next suggestion would be NYC NARA. This flight in 1960, should have landed at JFK Airport, formerly known as Idlewild. Barb Would anyone know where to find an arriving flight from Frankfurt aM on > > either Dec 7, 8 or 9, 1960? > > I am not entirely sure of the airline but most likely would be Lufthansa. > I > have access from home to records through 1957. > > Would the MA in Manhattan have those? > > TIA > Gabriele

I must be missing something because I do not know how to order this certificate; there is no cert # Marie Mckae 17 Dec 1890, Brooklyn. I have ordered many certificates in the past but I always had the cert # and then looked up the film # Is anyone familiar with this procedure? L No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2852 - Release Date: 05/04/10 14:27:00

Hi Gabriele, I don't know if they are available but those would be federal records, not municipal. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriele Harkey-Bornkessel" <ngharkey@sbcglobal.net> To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 9:44 AM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] passenger manifest Dec 1960 > Would anyone know where to find an arriving flight from Frankfurt aM on > either Dec 7, 8 or 9, 1960? > > I am not entirely sure of the airline but most likely would be Lufthansa. > I > have access from home to records through 1957. > > Would the MA in Manhattan have those? > > TIA > Gabriele > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2852 - Release Date: 05/03/10 14:27:00

Would anyone know where to find an arriving flight from Frankfurt aM on either Dec 7, 8 or 9, 1960? I am not entirely sure of the airline but most likely would be Lufthansa. I have access from home to records through 1957. Would the MA in Manhattan have those? TIA Gabriele

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Many thanks to all of you, who provided further guidance re the subject to me! Walter > I suspect, my g g g uncle was one of the 49ers, rushing for gold from > NYC > to California in 1849. He was in NYC in early 1849 and showed up in > southern > Oregon in 1852. Any suggestions, where to look for data (list of > travelers / > passengers; special mailing lists; web sites)?

When my dad died in 2005 I was the informant for his DC. His birth name included Jr. even tho he was not really a Jr as his father's middle name was different, but his father used a different middle name (which was my dad's middle name) all through his life (which I believe may have been his confirmation name). But when the DC arrived they had switched my gfather's first and middle name. I haven't yet looked into correcting it, but need to do that - even tho it still won't make any sense why my dad has a Jr attached! -----Original Message----- From: Bobbi <bobbidoll@optonline.net> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 10:41 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] death certs Hi Barb, My father did not die in NYC. When I inquired about "fixing" it I was told hat only information such as cause of death could be corrected. But I think I will ask again. Bobbi ---- Original Message ----- o: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> ent: Monday, April 26, 2010 8:51 PM ubject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] death certs Ladies, if the DCs are erroneous, you can have them corrected. Yes, you will have to pay a fee for it to be changed, but you can get them corrected, eveb 26 years later. I did this for my direct line ancestor's brother, that was in error for 80 years. Fortunately, my father and I composed his obituary together, before he passed away. So, when family told the undertaker that he was born in Manhattan because it "sounded better than the Bronx," and that he completed an M.S. degree [I guess that sounded better too], when he never completed the required thesis thus degree, I was not going head to head with them. Usually errors happen when someone, perhaps married into the family, provides the details, or doesn't care, but in some cases it is deliberate. Barb NYC Researcher NYIHR, GGG Barb NYC Researcher > From:bobbidoll@optonline.net > > Hi Kim, > > You are so right. My father died 26 years ago. On his death certificate > it > gives a birth year two years later than his. His occupation was given as > a > mechanic, it should have been carpenter. And worst of all, his mother's > maiden name was copied from his birth record, which was in error. If my > family does not pass down my research heaven help my descendants who try > to > find her family. > Bobbi =====================> > From: "Kim Hawkins" > > > My grandmother passed away Thursday in East Northport and while I was > > in > > > New York for her funeral I was given a copy of her death certificate. > It > > was a genealogist nightmare. Her mothers maiden name was spelled > > wrong, > > > my grandmothers middle name was omitted, they marked that she graduated > > from High School. I dont believe she did and for her occupation they > had > > put homemaker. My grandmother worked in a factory and retired from > there. > > I was very disappointed and when I asked my mother why they put > homemaker > > down instead of her occupation she said "It was just easier". I just > want > > to remind everyone that death certs have errors and not to count on > > them > > > 100% for accurate info. > > Kim ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Hi Evy, I'm sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. Everything seems to need my attention at the same time. The funny thing is that I am very behind on everything. >From the 1890-1 directories, my family living at 191 Orchard St. were John F. & Sophie Engel and their seven (at the time) surviving children. They were German Presbyterians. Their oldest daughter Anna Maria Catharina married Julius Hartmann in Sep 1893. On the marriage record they both gave their address as 191. I believe that when my gr-grandfather got out of the Navy, the Engels took him in as a border. Julius was a German Lutheran. Within 7 years Annie & Julius were living on E.83rd St. What are the names of your family? What faith were they? What ethnic background? I'm sure they probably knew each other even if they were not friends. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evy Sanfilippo" <evyanddom@cox.net> To: <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Orchard St. > My Great grandparents lived at 98 Orchard St at the time of the 1880 > census, with six children. > By 1890 they were living at 195 Orchard St. After that my widowed > grandmother moved uptown to the Eastside 90's. > Evy

where did he pass ?? Perhaps a death record would lead to further information. My research goal is to find the birthplace,birthdate and parents for Jacob Weber.

A compilation of NYC records can be found on _http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/nycv-lds.html_ (http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/nycv-lds.html) Hello list members, This is my first venture into NYC for my research. my grt grandparents were married in NYC in 1862. Jacob Weber & Charlotte Brecht. and had their first child in NYC in June 1863 (Jacob Augustus Weber) I understand that pre-1866 marriages are not indexed but some do exist in ledger form at the NYC Archives. Does that mean that they must be viewed in person? (Hard to do from North Carolina) . My research goal is to find the birthplace,birthdate and parents for Jacob Weber. Any help would be appreciated.

Hello list members, This is my first venture into NYC for my research. my grt grt grandparents were married in NYC in 1862. Jacob Weber & Charlotte Brecht. and had their first child in NYC in June 1863 (Jacob Augustus Weber) I understand that pre-1866 marriages are not indexed but some do exist in ledger form at the NYC Archives. Does that mean that they must be viewed in person? (Hard to do from North Carolina) . My research goal is to find the birthplace,birthdate and parents for Jacob Weber. Any help would be appreciated. David Schoenberger North Carolina

Hi Dawn, I was going through old e-mails. I don't know if you got a reply to your query. You can order from the Municipal Archives in Manhattan or you can order it from the Family History Library for $4.00. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dawn Butler" <dawncts@yahoo.com> To: <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] New to list I am reading the responses to where to find vital records but still a little confused- I am looking for a Richard Sheehan that died September 16, 1875 and according to the 1870 could possibly have been : Richard Sheehan who lived in New York Ward 14 District 4 (2nd Enum), New York, NY or Richard Shehan- New York Ward 11 District 3 (2nd Enum), New York, NY If he is one of these- where would I send for his death certificate? Thanks in advance for your help. Dawn

Hi Doc, I was going through old e-mails. I don't know if you ever got a reply to your query. Before 1922, if a woman married a foreign national she lost her citizenship. After 1922, if a foreign woman married an American, was still a foreign national. No longer did a woman have derivative citizenship. Perhaps, she was married before marrying Anton Posch? Did you get a copy of the citizenship papers to see what they said? If you still have not gotten the marriage certificate you can order it from the Family History Library for $4.00. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doc" <genealogy@begnal-enterprises.com> To: <GEN-NYS@rootsweb.com>; <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] 1923-1932 Posch - Ruzicka, Manhattan >I am looking to find Anton Posch in NY city directories, or married in > the 1930 census - drdocyoung.com/others/posch/ > > The following is a time line from his 1923 immigration to his wifes > naturalization in 1943. > > * 1923, 1 Oct - immigrated, Anton Posch, b. 7 Jun 1897, > Czechoslovakia - going to cousin Anton Achberger, living at 1031 > 1st Ave. Manhattan > * 1927, 12 May - married at the St. John of Nepomuk, 411 East 66th > Street & 1st Ave, NY, Pauline Ruzicka, b. abt. 1896, KS - unknown > address. > * Marriage Cert # 13348 - I have not sent for the cert. found at > Italian Gen. > * 1931, 8 Jun - Anton Posch naturalization, lives at 424 E. 66th St. > Manhattan > * 1939, 20 Mar - Teressia Achberger, naturalization, lives at 426 E. > 66th St. Manhattan > * 1943, 22 Nov - Pauline Posch naturalization, lives at 424 E. 66th > St. Manhattan > > I have access to Ancestry, I cannot find Anton & Pauline in the census > in 1930, nor can I find a city directory showing Anton at 1031 1st Ave > or 424 E. 66th St. > > I have located 424 E. 66th St. in the 1930 census and looked at every > head of household numbering 23 hoh, none are Anton or Pauline. > > I have found his cousin Anton Achberger & wife Theresa in the 1920 > census and his wife as a widow in 1930. Only Theresa and her daughter > are listed as living there. There is a blank line of/for a boarder below > the daughters name, with no name, birth or occupation, however not 2 > blank lines if Anton Posch and Pauline may have been living there. > > And I am puzzled some on why Pauline if born in Kansas, would need to be > naturalized. Her parents are born Prague CZ, and naturalized abt. > 1891. And per the naturalization of Theresa Achberger, Anton Posch > always lived very close to them, as her 1939 address is 426 E. 66th St. > > I hoping a volunteer with other resources may be able to help, or > suggest something I may not have thought of. If I can be of help to > any one monitoring that does not have access to Ancestry.com, please let > me know. > > -- > Regards, D.R. "Doc" Young - drdocyoung.com > "Paying it Forward" > > Same Day Volunteer Researcher of this list/message board and many others > > Begnal/Shaughnessy/Young-Blaschko/Blaskow-Perry/Pereira Cardoso-Wilson > > Contact Skype: dr.doc.young Of the Greater Salt Lake Valley, UT

Robert, Ancestry Germany has the Hamburg departure lists online, but only years 1877 to 1914 are indexed so far. So only these years can be searched. But all other years (1850 - 1934) are online just as images. I did find your Anne Spahn on an image and will send you the image directly. Greetings from Berlin Walter > Does anyone have any experience/success with researching emigration > records from the source country? Does that require an Internation > account at Ancestory? Is it worth the expense? > > The ship in question is called the Westphalia; arrived NY, 24 Jul 1871 > from Hamburg Germany. My brick wall is Anne Spahn.