GREAT SITE THANK YOU According to http://www.avotaynu.com/nu/V11N09.htm: Would you like a more graphic representation of the building where your ancestors lived in New York City? http://gis.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap The above URL is the NYC government site where you key in a specific address and the result is a map of the area showing an outline of every building. After locating a building, click "Show Additional Information" and data will be provided such as lot frontage, depth and area; year built; gross floor area; number of residential units; and whether it has been designated as a Landmark building. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Happy Shavuot*, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY * The 2-day Jewish Biblical Festival of Shavuot (shuh-VOO-oht) commemorates the day when G-d gave the Jewish people the Torah (the Five Books of Moses) following Moses' descent from Mount Sinai in 1310 BCE, begins 7 weeks from the second Seder of the Jewish Biblical Festival of Pesach (Passover), which this year will be at sundown on Tuesday, May 18 on the civil calendar. </HTML> -

According to a post by David Chesler at bronxroots@rootsweb.com "If you click on the (non-intuitive) camera icon you get a slider with years on it, and get aerial photos taken in those years." Thanks David. Happy Shavuot*, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY * The 2-day Jewish Biblical Festival of Shavuot (shuh-VOO-oht) commemorates the day when G-d gave the Jewish people the Torah (the Five Books of Moses) following Moses' descent from Mount Sinai in 1310 BCE, begins 7 weeks from the second Seder of the Jewish Biblical Festival of Pesach (Passover), which this year will be at sundown on Tuesday, May 18 on the civil calendar. </HTML>

According to http://www.avotaynu.com/nu/V11N09.htm: Would you like a more graphic representation of the building where your ancestors lived in New York City? http://gis.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap The above URL is the NYC government site where you key in a specific address and the result is a map of the area showing an outline of every building. After locating a building, click “Show Additional Information” and data will be provided such as lot frontage, depth and area; year built; gross floor area; number of residential units; and whether it has been designated as a Landmark building. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Happy Shavuot*, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY * The 2-day Jewish Biblical Festival of Shavuot (shuh-VOO-oht) commemorates the day when G-d gave the Jewish people the Torah (the Five Books of Moses) following Moses' descent from Mount Sinai in 1310 BCE, begins 7 weeks from the second Seder of the Jewish Biblical Festival of Pesach (Passover), which this year will be at sundown on Tuesday, May 18 on the civil calendar. </HTML>

Info at _http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IoKorQFHBQQJ:www.nypl. org/locations/schwarzman/milstein-division-us-history-local-history-genealog y+Holdings+of+the+NYPL+Milstein+Division&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us_ (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IoKorQFHBQQJ:www.nypl.org/locat ions/schwarzman/milstein-division-us-history-local-history-genealogy+Holding s+of+the+NYPL+Milstein+Division&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

Bobbi, You can start here: http://www.nypl.org/locations/tid/36/node/65877 -- Mary On 5/13/2010 2:52 PM, Bobbi wrote: > Does anyone know where I might find a listing of their holdings online? > > Thanks, > > Bobbi

Does anyone know where I might find a listing of their holdings online? Thanks, Bobbi

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Hello, This is my report. I have alot more, but I wanted to start brief. Michael Goldstein came to NYC prior to, or during the Civil War (1861-1865). I believe he was employed during the War in NYC sewing US Army uniforms and this is where he met a fellow worker named Abraham Kallen. Abraham married Michael's sister Flora Goldstein in NYC about 1866-7. I do not have the marriage record for Abraham Kallen to Flora Goldstein. Michael Goldstein most likely married Minnie Levy, d/o Solomon, also in NYC prior to 1863. I also do not have that record. Both the Goldstein family and the Kallen family moved permanently to Chicago, IL prior to 1870 census. I need help and assistance finding more about these 2 families during the Civil War period in NYC, prior to their move to Chicago. I do not have passenger records for either of these families. The immigrants would be: Michael Goldstein, Flora Goldstein, Minnie Levy, Abraham Kallen. I estimate their arrival to be 1860-1866. I do not have marriage records for Michael or Abraham. They were married in NYC. The children which were born in NYC were: Meyer Goldstein b. 1863 Annie Goldstein b. 1864 Mary Goldstein b. 1865 Rachel Kallen b. 1868 Additonal problem: that the ORIGINAL surname of Abraham Kallen was something else. Perhaps Kalinski, or another similar Polish type name which could be 'morphed' into Kallen. However, there is also the possibility that Kallen was the original spelling. Best regards, Lilly Martin Descendants of Meyer Goldstein Generation No. 1 1. MEYER1 GOLDSTEIN Children of MEYER GOLDSTEIN are: i. MICHAEL2 GOLDSTEIN, b. June 17, 1837, Prussia; d. May 24, 1922, Chicago, Cook, IL; m. MINNIE LEVY; b. December 05, 1840, Prussia; d. June 30, 1916, Chicago, Cook, IL. Daughter of Solomon Levy. Notes for MICHAEL GOLDSTEIN: 1870 census: Chicago, Cook, IL, Ward #2, page 73. Michael 1837, Tailor, b. Prussia Mina 1841 Prussia Meyer 1863 NY Ella (anna) 1864 NY Mary 1865 NY Emuis (Amos) 1868 Ohio Carrie 1870 IL Louis Levy 1850 Prussia, cutter in tailor shop Ann Levy 1835 Prussia 1880 census: Chicago Michal 1837 Tailor Prussia Wina 1842 Prussia Meyer 1863 NY Barber Annie 1864 NY Mary 1867 Prussia Waron 1868 Ohio Sophie 1872 IL Philip 1879 IL His death record states his father was Meyer. He was living at 4455 Vincennes at the time of death. More About MICHAEL GOLDSTEIN: Burial: May 26, 1922, Free Sons of Israel, Waldheim Cemetery, Chicago, IL More About MINNIE LEVY: Burial: Free Sons of Israel, Waldheim Cemetery, Chicago, IL ii. FLORA GOLDSTEIN, b. 1835, Prussia; d. Bef. December 23, 1873, Chicago, Cook, IL; m. ABRAHAM KALLEN; b. March 15, 1845, Rogasen, Prussia, now Rogozno, Poland.; d. May 19, 1920, 5128 Prairie ave, Chicago, Cook Co, IL. Notes for ABRAHAM KALLEN: 1870 census: Chicago, IL: Abraham CARLIN 25 Prussia, Tailor, , with Flora 35 Prussia, and Rachel 2 yrs NY and Meyer 1 yr. IL Abraham and Flora both born Prussia, he is a TAILOR, Rachel is born in NY 1868 and Meyer in IL 1869. 1890 Voter Registration Chicago, IL: Abraham Kallen: stated he filed his Naturalization papers in October 1880 at Cook County Court, Chicago. IL. Stated he was living in Chicago and the state of IL for 21 years (from 1869 aprox)

error on my part. NYPL has lots of info. Great if one lives in NY _http://www.nypl.org/blog/2008/10/21/births-marriages-deaths-family-history_ (http://www.nypl.org/blog/2008/10/21/births-marriages-deaths-family-history)

The chruch was never on ninth avenue. Second German Methodist Church, 445 W. 43rd St It did not close in 1940 it changed its name Second German Methodist Church, changed name to West 43r4 St. Methodist Church 1940 Jocb Kolb opeated out of a Methodist Episcpal german church in in 1871 German, 846 W 40th; Jacob Kolb, Minister, h 850 W 40th; L Chruch records do not to my knowledghe wind up at the NY Public library. Hi Steve, > > It was the Second German Methodist Church, 1858 Ninth Avenue & W. 40th > Street. > The church closed after 1940. The records are at the NY Public Library. > Among the pastors were Jacob Kolb & Paul Quattl?nder (Quattlaender.) > > Bobbi

To Bobbi (and the list) Thank you very MUCH. At the NYPL, I don't suppose these are available via Inter-library loan? NYC is not a hop, skip and jump from here. I am doing this research for someone who lives in New Jersey, maybe she will pay a visit to the city and research the records. Thank you again. Steve Morgan Wilmington NC On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 3:00 AM, <nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 15:46:25 -0400 > From: Bobbi <bobbidoll@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Church (Additional > information) > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <826B7008221B43249370F6076B6C8E13@BobbiPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Hi Steve, > > It was the Second German Methodist Church, 1858 Ninth Avenue & W. 40th > Street. > The church closed after 1940. The records are at the NY Public Library. > Among the pastors were Jacob Kolb & Paul Quattl?nder (Quattlaender.) > > Bobbi > >

Hi Steve, It was the Second German Methodist Church, 1858 Ninth Avenue & W. 40th Street. The church closed after 1940. The records are at the NY Public Library. Among the pastors were Jacob Kolb & Paul Quattländer (Quattlaender.) Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven morgan" To: <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:49 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Church (Additional information) > Following Bobbi's suggestion to me on the list. > > One pastor signed J. Kolb, whom I believe was Jacob Kolb, who later was > associated with an ME parish in the South Bronx. > > The other signature is very difficult to read. It starts with a big > circular > "flourish" and ends with ttlander. If it is of interest to anyone I could > scan the license and post it if anyone wants to take a stab at his name. > > Thanks to all > > -- > Steve Morgan > Wilmington North Carolina

Following Bobbi's suggestion to me on the list. One pastor signed J. Kolb, whom I believe was Jacob Kolb, who later was associated with an ME parish in the South Bronx. The other signature is very difficult to read. It starts with a big circular "flourish" and ends with ttlander. If it is of interest to anyone I could scan the license and post it if anyone wants to take a stab at his name. Thanks to all -- Steve Morgan Wilmington North Carolina

Thanks - Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] certificates www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat" To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] certificates > > Where can I send some death and other certificates that I don't need. > Patricia > IN. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat" To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] certificates > > Where can I send some death and other certificates that I don't need. > Patricia > IN.

Where can I send some death and other certificates that I don't need. Patricia IN.

For any listers seeking information from New York City churches, please note that FamilySearch has records (on film) for a sizeable number of these churches. The list can be found by going to www.familysearch.org and clicking on either the tab "search records" or "library." Choose "library catalog", then "place name" and enter "New York City." The link you want is the last one on the list that appears: "New York (City) - New York, New York (City)." Warning: there are 192 entries here, so be prepared to do some scrolling! www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com also has some info - as I recall, not only for Brooklyn. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com> To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:00 AM Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 112 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Looking for Albertson (Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson) > 2. Robert Henry Dayton (Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson) > 3. Methodist Episcopal Church West 39th Street NYC (steven morgan) > 4. Re: Methodist Episcopal Church West 39th Street NYC (Bobbi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 18:23:54 -0400 > From: Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson <cosette.58@hotmail.com> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Looking for Albertson > To: "nynewyor@rootsweb.com" <nynewyor@rootsweb.com>, > <ny-longisland@rootsweb.com>, "nynassau@rootsweb.com" > <nynassau@rootsweb.com>, "nysuffol@rootsweb.com" > <nysuffol@rootsweb.com>, "nyc-roots@rootsweb.com" > <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>, "nyqueens@rootsweb.com" > <nyqueens@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL110-W6514C84499439E454AFDF593F60@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Is anyone working with Albertson Family? I am looking for info for George > W. Albertson and Ann Margaret (or sometimes listed as Margaret Ann, nee > Dewar) in NY. Ann Margaret was born around 1894. I have found them in the > 1930s census and they had three children Margaret, William and John (or > Joe). I am looking for anyone who might have this famly in their tree. > > > > Liz > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 18:27:21 -0400 > From: Elizabeth Martinez-Gibson <cosette.58@hotmail.com> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Robert Henry Dayton > To: <dayton@rootsweb.com>, "nyc-roots@rootsweb.com" > <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>, <ny-longisland@rootsweb.com>, > "nynewyor@rootsweb.com" <nynewyor@rootsweb.com>, > "nynassau@rootsweb.com" <nynassau@rootsweb.com>, > "nysuffol@rootsweb.com" <nysuffol@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL110-W515688654232252777110793F60@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Is anyone working with Robert Henry Dayton (born around 1843 in Long > Island, married to Ceclia Hotaling) line? If so, I would love to hear from > you. > > > > Liz > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with > Hotmail. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 00:16:27 -0400 > From: steven morgan <bronxtarheel@gmail.com> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Church West 39th Street NYC > To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikGG81FDpe5cQlxhAv7k9My2sT3_z_RBMQBLZe4@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I am researching my sister-in-law's family. > We have marriage certificates from the City of New York for her > great-grandparents (WILLIAM ANDERSON and MAGGIE KYLES ANDERSON) and for > the > brother of her great-grandmother (THOMAS KYLES who married KATIE GEE). The > certificates are from 1879 and 1882 respectively . Although signed by > different pastors, both signers showed their residence as 350 West 40th > Street with one certificate stating that the pastor came from the German > M. > E. Church which I assume is for Methodist Episcopal. Relatives of these > families worshiped at the Chelsea ME Church it seems that I am on the > right > track. > > I am hoping to find records of this church as we have no idea as to dates > of > death for the parents of the Kyles siblings nor do we have their date of > marriage or place of birth in Ireland. Is there any chance of finding any > of these records in New York City or through the Family History Library? > > These families lived all over Hell's Kitchen from 1860 on. and one of the > Anderson granddaughters still lives in the neighborhood. > > > > Thanks to all. > -- > Steve Morgan > Wilmington North Carolina > > -- > Steve Morgan > Wilmington North Carolina > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 00:44:51 -0400 > From: Bobbi <bobbidoll@optonline.net> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Church West 39th Street > NYC > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <C69A2A20F97848D7BE3CB2C20DF3D885@BobbiPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > You could make things easier by giving the names of the pastors... > > Bobbi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "steven morgan" > To: <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:16 AM > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Church West 39th Street NYC > > >>I am researching my sister-in-law's family. >> We have marriage certificates from the City of New York for her >> great-grandparents (WILLIAM ANDERSON and MAGGIE KYLES ANDERSON) and for >> the >> brother of her great-grandmother (THOMAS KYLES who married KATIE GEE). >> The >> certificates are from 1879 and 1882 respectively . Although signed by >> different pastors, both signers showed their residence as 350 West 40th >> Street with one certificate stating that the pastor came from the German >> M. >> E. Church which I assume is for Methodist Episcopal. Relatives of these >> families worshiped at the Chelsea ME Church it seems that I am on the >> right >> track. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 112 > *****************************************

You could make things easier by giving the names of the pastors... Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "steven morgan" To: <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 12:16 AM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Methodist Episcopal Church West 39th Street NYC >I am researching my sister-in-law's family. > We have marriage certificates from the City of New York for her > great-grandparents (WILLIAM ANDERSON and MAGGIE KYLES ANDERSON) and for > the > brother of her great-grandmother (THOMAS KYLES who married KATIE GEE). The > certificates are from 1879 and 1882 respectively . Although signed by > different pastors, both signers showed their residence as 350 West 40th > Street with one certificate stating that the pastor came from the German > M. > E. Church which I assume is for Methodist Episcopal. Relatives of these > families worshiped at the Chelsea ME Church it seems that I am on the > right > track.

I am researching my sister-in-law's family. We have marriage certificates from the City of New York for her great-grandparents (WILLIAM ANDERSON and MAGGIE KYLES ANDERSON) and for the brother of her great-grandmother (THOMAS KYLES who married KATIE GEE). The certificates are from 1879 and 1882 respectively . Although signed by different pastors, both signers showed their residence as 350 West 40th Street with one certificate stating that the pastor came from the German M. E. Church which I assume is for Methodist Episcopal. Relatives of these families worshiped at the Chelsea ME Church it seems that I am on the right track. I am hoping to find records of this church as we have no idea as to dates of death for the parents of the Kyles siblings nor do we have their date of marriage or place of birth in Ireland. Is there any chance of finding any of these records in New York City or through the Family History Library? These families lived all over Hell's Kitchen from 1860 on. and one of the Anderson granddaughters still lives in the neighborhood. Thanks to all. -- Steve Morgan Wilmington North Carolina -- Steve Morgan Wilmington North Carolina