Thankyou. However, I have his arrival, marriage, all census entries to 1930 and other information. I just need to find his death details. He may not have died between 1930-36, there could be another reason why his Wife re-married in 1936, but at the moment his death seems the most plausible. He had two sons Nevile b.1913 and Bertram jnr b.1916 who may have still been living with him. If anyone can help, in any way, I would be most grateful. Doreen in UK ________________________________ From: "dennybok@aol.com" <dennybok@aol.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com; NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 17 September, 2010 0:04:49 Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Looking for obit for BERTRAM OSCAR DIETRICH Vital records to poss get the date are available on _www.stevemorse.org_ (http://www.stevemorse.org) Would it be possible for SKS to check for an obituary for my ancestor BERTRAM OSCAR DIETRICH who I believed died between 1930 and 1936 because his first wife re-married in 1936. Last known place of abode was in Erie. Thank-you. Doreen Jackson in the UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Vital records to poss get the date are available on _www.stevemorse.org_ (http://www.stevemorse.org) Would it be possible for SKS to check for an obituary for my ancestor BERTRAM OSCAR DIETRICH who I believed died between 1930 and 1936 because his first wife re-married in 1936. Last known place of abode was in Erie. Thank-you. Doreen Jackson in the UK

Would it be possible for SKS to check for an obituary for my ancestor BERTRAM OSCAR DIETRICH who I believed died between 1930 and 1936 because his first wife re-married in 1936. Last known place of abode was in Erie. Thank-you. Doreen Jackson in the UK

Frances, thanks for the link to "theggg" I searched every database there and came up with no STACY which comes near to the lady I am looking for, so perhaps she moved out of the New York area to another state maybe or even across the border to Canada. She was baptised in England as Frances Adelaide STACEY even though she was registered Frances Adeline and sailed under the name Adeline Frances STACY so she's not making any search easy. cheers Bob > "Dis to Ada Matley " may mean discharged to Ada Matley. When I visited > Ellis Island they said women traveling alone had to wait until someone > came for them. > Try www.theggg.org databases for marriages in NYC. It's a site sponsored > by a German Genealogy Group but has vital records for everyone. > Frances Rodier > New Hampshire > > > Subject: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? > > > I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie sleuth > will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool > early in 1912. > She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in 1887, > her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. > By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a disapearing > act for the 1911 UK census. > However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from Liverpool to > New York early in 1912. > By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing and > arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 > year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island > ship's manifest has her definetly being born in Norwich and her attention > was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New > York, N.Y. Further along the line is written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East > 67th Street" although I do not know what this means? > My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York or > nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) > after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the following census > of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York newspaper notices? or would > she be listed under her maiden name if or when she may have applied for US > citizenship? > > Any help or advice would be most appreciated, > cheers > Bob in Australia > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:14:28 -0400 > From: fewrodier@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in > NEW YORK FROM 1912? > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <8CD2282187981A4-12B8-4B2C@webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > "Dis to Ada Matley " may mean discharged to Ada Matley. When I visited > Ellis Island they said women traveling alone had to wait until someone > came for them. > Try www.theggg.org databases for marriages in NYC. It's a site sponsored > by a German Genealogy Group but has vital records for everyone. > Frances Rodier > New Hampshire > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Campbell <rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au> > To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:05 pm > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK > FROM 1912? > > > > Subject: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? > > have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie sleuth > will > e able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool early > in > 912. > She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in 1887, > her > arents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. > By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a disapearing > act for > he 1911 UK census. > However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from Liverpool to > New > ork early in 1912. > By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing and > arrival > assenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 year old > nurse > hose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island ship's manifest > has > er definetly being born in Norwich and her attention was to stay with a > friend > a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the > line > s written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not know > what > his means? > My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York or > nearby > or and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) after 1912, > or if > till single, any mention of her in the following census of 1920? Would her > name > ppear in any New York newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her > aiden name if or when she may have applied for US citizenship? > Any help or advice would be most appreciated, > heers > ob in Australia > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:50:33 -0400 (EDT) > From: dennybok@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in > NEW YORK FROM 1912? > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com, NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Cc: rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au > Message-ID: <15154d.357a60c0.39c17259@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I mentioned the other day when yu poosted the same msg ot > another msg board........There is no 1920 census record for her > nor > is their a marriage or death for her in NYC. U may have not > gotten that response. What was her borthdate ?? > > > I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie > sleuth > will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool > early in 1912. > She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in 1887, > her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. > By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a disapearing > act for the 1911 UK census. > However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from Liverpool > to > New York early in 1912. > By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing and > arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 > year > old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island > ship's > manifest has her definetly being born in Norwich and her attention was to > stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New York, > N.Y. > Further along the line is written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" > although I do not know what this means? > My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York or > nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) > after > 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the following census of > 1920? Would her name appear in any New York newspaper notices? or would > she be > listed under her maiden name if or when she may have applied for US > citizenship? > > Any help or advice would be most appreciated, > cheers > Bob in Australia > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:24:42 +1000 > From: "Robert Campbell" <rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in > NEW YORK FROM 1912? > To: <dennybok@aol.com> > Cc: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <00d001cb5496$4e1e3060$0301a8c0@robertc41ccc78> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Denny, > Frances Adeline STACY's actual birth registration was during the > July-September 1/4 of 1886 at Norwich,Norfolk U.K. so when she arrived in > New York in April 1912 she was still 25 years of age. Although she arrived > in the USA with her forenames reversed around, if she was married in New > York and had to produce a birth certificate then this would have shown > Frances Adeline STACEY (note the extra E in the surname.). > FreeReg has church baptism which I have just located and this says she was > actually born 6th June 1886 and then baptised "Frances Adelaide STACEY" IN > 1888! > In the 1911 census in the UK I just found her with the name "Adelaide" > STACEY, so she's not making the search easy. > > Thanks for your reply > > cheers > Bob in Australi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dennybok@aol.com > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com ; NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Cc: rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW > YORK FROM 1912? > > > I mentioned the other day when yu poosted the same msg ot > another msg board........There is no 1920 census record for her > nor is their a marriage or death for her in NYC. U may have not > gotten that response. What was her borthdate ?? > > * > > > I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie > sleuth will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from > Liverpool early in 1912. > She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in 1887, > her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. > By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a disapearing > act for the 1911 UK census. > However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from Liverpool > to New York early in 1912. > By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing and > arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 > year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island > ship's manifest has her definetly being born in Norwich and her attention > was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New > York, N.Y. Further along the line is written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East > 67th Street" although I do not know what this means? > My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York or > nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) > after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the following census > of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York newspaper notices? or would > she be listed under her maiden name if or when she may have applied for US > citizenship? > > Any help or advice would be most appreciated, > cheers > Bob in Australia > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 207 > *****************************************

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Denny, Frances Adeline STACY's actual birth registration was during the July-September 1/4 of 1886 at Norwich,Norfolk U.K. so when she arrived in New York in April 1912 she was still 25 years of age. Although she arrived in the USA with her forenames reversed around, if she was married in New York and had to produce a birth certificate then this would have shown Frances Adeline STACEY (note the extra E in the surname.). FreeReg has church baptism which I have just located and this says she was actually born 6th June 1886 and then baptised "Frances Adelaide STACEY" IN 1888! In the 1911 census in the UK I just found her with the name "Adelaide" STACEY, so she's not making the search easy. Thanks for your reply cheers Bob in Australi ----- Original Message ----- From: dennybok@aol.com To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com ; NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Cc: rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? I mentioned the other day when yu poosted the same msg ot another msg board........There is no 1920 census record for her nor is their a marriage or death for her in NYC. U may have not gotten that response. What was her borthdate ?? * I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie sleuth will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool early in 1912. She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in 1887, her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a disapearing act for the 1911 UK census. However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from Liverpool to New York early in 1912. By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing and arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island ship's manifest has her definetly being born in Norwich and her attention was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the line is written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not know what this means? My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York or nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the following census of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her maiden name if or when she may have applied for US citizenship? Any help or advice would be most appreciated, cheers Bob in Australia

Subject: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie sleuth will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool early in 1912. She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in 1887, her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a disapearing act for the 1911 UK census. However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from Liverpool to New York early in 1912. By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing and arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island ship's manifest has her definetly being born in Norwich and her attention was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the line is written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not know what this means? My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York or nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the following census of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her maiden name if or when she may have applied for US citizenship? Any help or advice would be most appreciated, cheers Bob in Australia

Sorry Bob, I forgot to include the link: http://www.italiangen.org/Default.htm Karen On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Robert Campbell wrote: > Frances, > thanks for the link to "theggg" I searched every database there and > came up with no STACY which comes near to the lady I am looking for, > so perhaps she moved out of the New York area to another state maybe > or even across the border to Canada. She was baptised in England as > Frances Adelaide STACEY even though she was registered Frances Adeline > and sailed under the name Adeline Frances STACY so she's not making > any search easy. > cheers > Bob > >> "Dis to Ada Matley " may mean discharged to Ada Matley. When I >> visited Ellis Island they said women traveling alone had to wait >> until someone came for them. >> Try www.theggg.org databases for marriages in NYC. It's a site >> sponsored by a German Genealogy Group but has vital records for >> everyone. >> Frances Rodier >> New Hampshire > > > >> >> >> Subject: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> >> >> I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie >> sleuth will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York >> from Liverpool early in 1912. >> She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in >> 1887, her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. >> By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a >> disapearing act for the 1911 UK census. >> However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from >> Liverpool to New York early in 1912. >> By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing >> and arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a >> single 25 year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. >> The Ellis Island ship's manifest has her definetly being born in >> Norwich and her attention was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey >> at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the line is >> written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not >> know what this means? >> My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York >> or nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or >> STACEY) after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the >> following census of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York >> newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her maiden name if or >> when she may have applied for US citizenship? >> >> Any help or advice would be most appreciated, >> cheers >> Bob in Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:14:28 -0400 >> From: fewrodier@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in >> NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <8CD2282187981A4-12B8-4B2C@webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> "Dis to Ada Matley " may mean discharged to Ada Matley. When I >> visited Ellis Island they said women traveling alone had to wait >> until someone came for them. >> Try www.theggg.org databases for marriages in NYC. It's a site >> sponsored by a German Genealogy Group but has vital records for >> everyone. >> Frances Rodier >> New Hampshire >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Campbell <rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au> >> To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:05 pm >> Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW >> YORK FROM 1912? >> >> >> >> Subject: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> >> have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie >> sleuth will >> e able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool >> early in >> 912. >> She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in >> 1887, her >> arents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. >> By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a >> disapearing act for >> he 1911 UK census. >> However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from >> Liverpool to New >> ork early in 1912. >> By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing >> and arrival >> assenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 year >> old nurse >> hose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island ship's >> manifest has >> er definetly being born in Norwich and her attention was to stay with >> a friend >> a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along >> the line >> s written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not >> know what >> his means? >> My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York >> or nearby >> or and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) after >> 1912, or if >> till single, any mention of her in the following census of 1920? >> Would her name >> ppear in any New York newspaper notices? or would she be listed under >> her >> aiden name if or when she may have applied for US citizenship? >> Any help or advice would be most appreciated, >> heers >> ob in Australia >> >> ------------------------------ >> o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> he message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:50:33 -0400 (EDT) >> From: dennybok@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in >> NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com, NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Cc: rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au >> Message-ID: <15154d.357a60c0.39c17259@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I mentioned the other day when yu poosted the same msg ot >> another msg board........There is no 1920 census record for >> her nor >> is their a marriage or death for her in NYC. U may have >> not >> gotten that response. What was her borthdate ?? >> >> >> I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie >> sleuth >> will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from >> Liverpool >> early in 1912. >> She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in >> 1887, >> her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. >> By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a >> disapearing >> act for the 1911 UK census. >> However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from >> Liverpool to >> New York early in 1912. >> By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing >> and >> arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single >> 25 year >> old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island >> ship's >> manifest has her definetly being born in Norwich and her attention >> was to >> stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New >> York, N.Y. >> Further along the line is written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th >> Street" >> although I do not know what this means? >> My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York >> or >> nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or >> STACEY) after >> 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the following census >> of >> 1920? Would her name appear in any New York newspaper notices? or >> would she be >> listed under her maiden name if or when she may have applied for US >> citizenship? >> >> Any help or advice would be most appreciated, >> cheers >> Bob in Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:24:42 +1000 >> From: "Robert Campbell" <rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au> >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in >> NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> To: <dennybok@aol.com> >> Cc: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <00d001cb5496$4e1e3060$0301a8c0@robertc41ccc78> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Denny, >> Frances Adeline STACY's actual birth registration was during the >> July-September 1/4 of 1886 at Norwich,Norfolk U.K. so when she >> arrived in New York in April 1912 she was still 25 years of age. >> Although she arrived in the USA with her forenames reversed around, >> if she was married in New York and had to produce a birth certificate >> then this would have shown Frances Adeline STACEY (note the extra E >> in the surname.). >> FreeReg has church baptism which I have just located and this says >> she was actually born 6th June 1886 and then baptised "Frances >> Adelaide STACEY" IN 1888! >> In the 1911 census in the UK I just found her with the name >> "Adelaide" STACEY, so she's not making the search easy. >> >> Thanks for your reply >> >> cheers >> Bob in Australi >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: dennybok@aol.com >> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com ; NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Cc: rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in >> NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> >> >> I mentioned the other day when yu poosted the same msg ot >> another msg board........There is no 1920 census record for >> her nor is their a marriage or death for her in NYC. U may >> have not gotten that response. What was her borthdate ?? >> >> * >> >> >> I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie >> sleuth will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York >> from Liverpool early in 1912. >> She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in >> 1887, her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. >> By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a >> disapearing act for the 1911 UK census. >> However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from >> Liverpool to New York early in 1912. >> By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing >> and arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a >> single 25 year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. >> The Ellis Island ship's manifest has her definetly being born in >> Norwich and her attention was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey >> at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the line is >> written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not >> know what this means? >> My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York >> or nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or >> STACEY) after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the >> following census of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York >> newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her maiden name if or >> when she may have applied for US citizenship? >> >> Any help or advice would be most appreciated, >> cheers >> Bob in Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 207 >> ***************************************** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try a search on the following website which also has a link to another website you can search. Anyway, I have found many of my ancestors on this website, after I had searched Ancestry.com, and lots of others. Also one of my ancestors came up on the marriage list, with her mother's maiden name. I tried it just as a last minute thought, and sure enough there she was. So just keep trying, and good luck. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Robert Campbell wrote: > Frances, > thanks for the link to "theggg" I searched every database there and > came up with no STACY which comes near to the lady I am looking for, > so perhaps she moved out of the New York area to another state maybe > or even across the border to Canada. She was baptised in England as > Frances Adelaide STACEY even though she was registered Frances Adeline > and sailed under the name Adeline Frances STACY so she's not making > any search easy. > cheers > Bob > >> "Dis to Ada Matley " may mean discharged to Ada Matley. When I >> visited Ellis Island they said women traveling alone had to wait >> until someone came for them. >> Try www.theggg.org databases for marriages in NYC. It's a site >> sponsored by a German Genealogy Group but has vital records for >> everyone. >> Frances Rodier >> New Hampshire > > > >> >> >> Subject: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> >> >> I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie >> sleuth will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York >> from Liverpool early in 1912. >> She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in >> 1887, her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. >> By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a >> disapearing act for the 1911 UK census. >> However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from >> Liverpool to New York early in 1912. >> By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing >> and arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a >> single 25 year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. >> The Ellis Island ship's manifest has her definetly being born in >> Norwich and her attention was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey >> at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the line is >> written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not >> know what this means? >> My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York >> or nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or >> STACEY) after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the >> following census of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York >> newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her maiden name if or >> when she may have applied for US citizenship? >> >> Any help or advice would be most appreciated, >> cheers >> Bob in Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:14:28 -0400 >> From: fewrodier@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in >> NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <8CD2282187981A4-12B8-4B2C@webmail-m033.sysops.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> >> "Dis to Ada Matley " may mean discharged to Ada Matley. When I >> visited Ellis Island they said women traveling alone had to wait >> until someone came for them. >> Try www.theggg.org databases for marriages in NYC. It's a site >> sponsored by a German Genealogy Group but has vital records for >> everyone. >> Frances Rodier >> New Hampshire >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Robert Campbell <rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au> >> To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:05 pm >> Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW >> YORK FROM 1912? >> >> >> >> Subject: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> >> have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie >> sleuth will >> e able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool >> early in >> 912. >> She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in >> 1887, her >> arents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. >> By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a >> disapearing act for >> he 1911 UK census. >> However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from >> Liverpool to New >> ork early in 1912. >> By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing >> and arrival >> assenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 year >> old nurse >> hose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island ship's >> manifest has >> er definetly being born in Norwich and her attention was to stay with >> a friend >> a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along >> the line >> s written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not >> know what >> his means? >> My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York >> or nearby >> or and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) after >> 1912, or if >> till single, any mention of her in the following census of 1920? >> Would her name >> ppear in any New York newspaper notices? or would she be listed under >> her >> aiden name if or when she may have applied for US citizenship? >> Any help or advice would be most appreciated, >> heers >> ob in Australia >> >> ------------------------------ >> o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com >> ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of >> he message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:50:33 -0400 (EDT) >> From: dennybok@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in >> NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com, NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Cc: rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au >> Message-ID: <15154d.357a60c0.39c17259@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I mentioned the other day when yu poosted the same msg ot >> another msg board........There is no 1920 census record for >> her nor >> is their a marriage or death for her in NYC. U may have >> not >> gotten that response. What was her borthdate ?? >> >> >> I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie >> sleuth >> will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from >> Liverpool >> early in 1912. >> She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in >> 1887, >> her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. >> By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a >> disapearing >> act for the 1911 UK census. >> However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from >> Liverpool to >> New York early in 1912. >> By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing >> and >> arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single >> 25 year >> old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island >> ship's >> manifest has her definetly being born in Norwich and her attention >> was to >> stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New >> York, N.Y. >> Further along the line is written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th >> Street" >> although I do not know what this means? >> My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York >> or >> nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or >> STACEY) after >> 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the following census >> of >> 1920? Would her name appear in any New York newspaper notices? or >> would she be >> listed under her maiden name if or when she may have applied for US >> citizenship? >> >> Any help or advice would be most appreciated, >> cheers >> Bob in Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:24:42 +1000 >> From: "Robert Campbell" <rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au> >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in >> NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> To: <dennybok@aol.com> >> Cc: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <00d001cb5496$4e1e3060$0301a8c0@robertc41ccc78> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Denny, >> Frances Adeline STACY's actual birth registration was during the >> July-September 1/4 of 1886 at Norwich,Norfolk U.K. so when she >> arrived in New York in April 1912 she was still 25 years of age. >> Although she arrived in the USA with her forenames reversed around, >> if she was married in New York and had to produce a birth certificate >> then this would have shown Frances Adeline STACEY (note the extra E >> in the surname.). >> FreeReg has church baptism which I have just located and this says >> she was actually born 6th June 1886 and then baptised "Frances >> Adelaide STACEY" IN 1888! >> In the 1911 census in the UK I just found her with the name >> "Adelaide" STACEY, so she's not making the search easy. >> >> Thanks for your reply >> >> cheers >> Bob in Australi >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: dennybok@aol.com >> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com ; NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Cc: rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au >> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in >> NEW YORK FROM 1912? >> >> >> I mentioned the other day when yu poosted the same msg ot >> another msg board........There is no 1920 census record for >> her nor is their a marriage or death for her in NYC. U may >> have not gotten that response. What was her borthdate ?? >> >> * >> >> >> I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie >> sleuth will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York >> from Liverpool early in 1912. >> She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in >> 1887, her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. >> By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a >> disapearing act for the 1911 UK census. >> However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from >> Liverpool to New York early in 1912. >> By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing >> and arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a >> single 25 year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. >> The Ellis Island ship's manifest has her definetly being born in >> Norwich and her attention was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey >> at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the line is >> written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not >> know what this means? >> My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York >> or nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or >> STACEY) after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the >> following census of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York >> newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her maiden name if or >> when she may have applied for US citizenship? >> >> Any help or advice would be most appreciated, >> cheers >> Bob in Australia >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 207 >> ***************************************** > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I mentioned the other day when yu poosted the same msg ot another msg board........There is no 1920 census record for her nor is their a marriage or death for her in NYC. U may have not gotten that response. What was her borthdate ?? I have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie sleuth will be able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool early in 1912. She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in 1887, her parents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a disapearing act for the 1911 UK census. However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from Liverpool to New York early in 1912. By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing and arrival passenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 year old nurse whose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island ship's manifest has her definetly being born in Norwich and her attention was to stay with a friend " a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the line is written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not know what this means? My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York or nearby for and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) after 1912, or if still single, any mention of her in the following census of 1920? Would her name appear in any New York newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her maiden name if or when she may have applied for US citizenship? Any help or advice would be most appreciated, cheers Bob in Australia

"Dis to Ada Matley " may mean discharged to Ada Matley. When I visited Ellis Island they said women traveling alone had to wait until someone came for them. Try www.theggg.org databases for marriages in NYC. It's a site sponsored by a German Genealogy Group but has vital records for everyone. Frances Rodier New Hampshire -----Original Message----- From: Robert Campbell <rcampbell3@optusnet.com.au> To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:05 pm Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Fw: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? Subject: searching for Adeline Frances STACY in NEW YORK FROM 1912? have just subscribed to this list with hope that some local genie sleuth will e able to locate my Ancestor who arrived in New York from Liverpool early in 912. She was born Frances Adeline STACY at Norwich, Norfolk in the UK in 1887, her arents being Samuel STACY and Ellen STACY nee' DAY. By 1903 both her parents had died and so far she has done a disapearing act for he 1911 UK census. However I have just discovered her on board the Carmenia from Liverpool to New ork early in 1912. By this time she had reversed her forenames and both the departing and arrival assenger lists have her as Adeline Frances STACY, a single 25 year old nurse hose previous address was in London, UK. The Ellis Island ship's manifest has er definetly being born in Norwich and her attention was to stay with a friend a Mrs Johnsey at 232 East 76th Street, New York, N.Y. Further along the line s written "Dis to Ada Matley 34 East 67th Street" although I do not know what his means? My questions are would there be a record of any marriage in New York or nearby or and Adeline Frances or a Frances Adeline STACY (or STACEY) after 1912, or if till single, any mention of her in the following census of 1920? Would her name ppear in any New York newspaper notices? or would she be listed under her aiden name if or when she may have applied for US citizenship? Any help or advice would be most appreciated, heers ob in Australia ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thanks John, I WAS using the wrong email address, Regards Annemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mills" <jpmills46@yahoo.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010 06:56:26 GMT -08:00 Tijuana / Baja California Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] address Send to nyc-roots@rootsweb.com   Try this and see if resolves your problem. John               ; --- On Tue, 9/14/10, Annemarie <kalishoek@eircom.net> wrote: From: Annemarie <kalishoek@eircom.net> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] address To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 9:11 AM Just wondering where I send my requests to, I never see any response, might be sending it to the wrong email address I am using the request email ? Annemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mills" <jpmills46@yahoo.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010 06:02:08 GMT -08:00 Tijuana / Baja California Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] address   Thanks for all  the responses.   I now have it narrowed down to the area between 14th street to 20th street and 3rd avenue to the east river.   Also found an Edward Mills (stonecutter) living on east 26th street in 1859.   I guess that is about as far as I can narrow the search.   Thanks again   John Mills                       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just wondering where I send my requests to, I never see any response, might be sending it to the wrong email address I am using the request email ? Annemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mills" <jpmills46@yahoo.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010 06:02:08 GMT -08:00 Tijuana / Baja California Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] address   Thanks for all  the responses.   I now have it narrowed down to the area between 14th street to 20th street and 3rd avenue to the east river.   Also found an Edward Mills (stonecutter) living on east 26th street in 1859.   I guess that is about as far as I can narrow the search.   Thanks again   John Mills                 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Send to nyc-roots@rootsweb.com   Try this and see if resolves your problem. John               ; --- On Tue, 9/14/10, Annemarie <kalishoek@eircom.net> wrote: From: Annemarie <kalishoek@eircom.net> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] address To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, September 14, 2010, 9:11 AM Just wondering where I send my requests to, I never see any response, might be sending it to the wrong email address I am using the request email ? Annemarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mills" <jpmills46@yahoo.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010 06:02:08 GMT -08:00 Tijuana / Baja California Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] address   Thanks for all  the responses.   I now have it narrowed down to the area between 14th street to 20th street and 3rd avenue to the east river.   Also found an Edward Mills (stonecutter) living on east 26th street in 1859.   I guess that is about as far as I can narrow the search.   Thanks again   John Mills                       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

  Thanks for all  the responses.   I now have it narrowed down to the area between 14th street to 20th street and 3rd avenue to the east river.   Also found an Edward Mills (stonecutter) living on east 26th street in 1859.   I guess that is about as far as I can narrow the search.   Thanks again   John Mills                

Joan, Go to _http://www.demographia.com/db-nyc-ward1800.htm_ (http://www.demographia.com/db-nyc-ward1800.htm) and scroll down. Jack Langton

Hello everyone. I have just joined this list as I am trying to learn what ward 363 West 29th Street, New York would have been in 1860. Can anyone help me with this, or direct me to any online ward maps? Thankyou. Joan

Broadway > was looking for a primary N-S Route. Further digging indicated that a > railroad traveled along Bowery.

I was looking for a primary N-S Route. Further digging indicated that a railroad traveled along Bowery. L : > Try the Broklyn homepage, under Transporation, Bob. > In that era, long distance travel was predominantly by ships on the > North River, perhaps coming by way of the Erie Canal. On land, horse > drawn carts, carriages, and omnibuses. > > Barb > NYC Researcher > > >> I'm looking for information about Manhattan north to south >> transportation ca 1850-1855. >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3130 - Release Date: 09/12/10 02:34:00

John, Distant Cousins has a 1859 NYC street directory. Go to _http://distantcousin.com/_ (http://distantcousin.com/) Jack Langton