My family was always in NYC, yet when my dad died, we found out my parents married in Elkton, MD. People used to call it "Marry-land" because you could drive there from NY and get married right away, no blood tests, nothing. We also found out after he died that they married the year AFTER they always said. My mom was pregnant with my brother! Might be worth checking other parts of NY as already suggested, or other states. - Irene

Hello and thank you to all who offered help with my efforts to get the ship's passenger list for my Halecka family!  Altho I had the basic information, I really like the look of those old passenger manifests & like to have a copy. THank you to all. Nancy

Riverside Drive is in upper Manhattan. I used to work right by Trinity Church. The graves were on the North side of the church. There were some along side it on the South, but the majority were on the North side. Bobbi

Doug, Yes. (Is this the same Trinity that is listed as Trinity Church at Broadway and Wall Street?) Trinity Place is parallel to and one block west of Broadway. Because of the Trinity Cemetery, located to the south of Trinity Church, the western end of Wall Street terminates at Broadway. Google "74 Trinity Place New York, NY" and the map that appears shows how the streets line up. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY </HTML>

In a message dated 10/12/2010 5:41:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Soyamaven@aol.com writes: > > Trinity Church Archives > Parish of Trinity Church > 74 Trinity Place, 4th Floor > New York, NY 10006 > > Tel: 212/602-9687 > Fax 212/ 602-9675 > > Walt Is this the same Trinity that is listed as Trinity Church at Broadway and Wall Street? Doug

Hi Bob, Keep in mind, just because it says "New York" doesn't necessarily mean New York City. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Campbell" To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: 13 October, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] STACY-CARTER-KENT saga continues > I have checked out the New York indexes and it seems the 1922 marriage did > not take place within New York, the clue perhaps in Delaware where their > son was born?

In a message dated 10/13/2010 6:30:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lnr@surewest.net writes: Trinity CHurch Cemetary Mausoleum 770 Riverside Dr, NY, NY 10032 phone 212-368-1600 That is where it is, in Manhattan down by the ferry docks, I was there a few years ago...it is a few buildings away from where u catch the ferry to go see the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island...that ferry only stops at Ellis Island...I don't recall the name of the line...it is a tourist type ferry, mostly intended for folks to go to Ellis Island...if you go down to the docks, someone there should be able to point you in the right direction

I was able to get info from Trinity CHurch Cemetary Mausoleum 770 Riverside Dr, NY, NY 10032 phone 212-368-1600 I called them and they faxed me records within about 30 minutes...got a complete listing of all people buried in our plot and any other records, letters etc that were in the file. It helped me a LOT....telling me of about 15 people I did not know of...and enabled me to complete a LOT of work on my tree. This is the Trinity on Manhattan (the original one I believe) Hope this helps Joyce In a message dated 10/12/2010 2:41:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Soyamaven@aol.com writes: Hi Douglas Burnett, This might be of some help to you: Trinity Church Archives Parish of Trinity Church 74 Trinity Place, 4th Floor New York, NY 10006 Tel: 212/602-9687 Fax 212/ 602-9675 eMail: archives@trinitywallstreet.org http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/history/?archives I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Okay - where is it? -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wrdsrus@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 6:20 PM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com; NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Trinity Church I was able to get info from Trinity CHurch Cemetary Mausoleum 770 Riverside Dr, NY, NY 10032 phone 212-368-1600 I called them and they faxed me records within about 30 minutes...got a complete listing of all people buried in our plot and any other records, letters etc that were in the file. It helped me a LOT....telling me of about 15 people I did not know of...and enabled me to complete a LOT of work on my tree. This is the Trinity on Manhattan (the original one I believe) Hope this helps Joyce In a message dated 10/12/2010 2:41:01 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Soyamaven@aol.com writes: Hi Douglas Burnett, This might be of some help to you: Trinity Church Archives Parish of Trinity Church 74 Trinity Place, 4th Floor New York, NY 10006 Tel: 212/602-9687 Fax 212/ 602-9675 eMail: archives@trinitywallstreet.org http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/history/?archives I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just found it using Ellis Island Ship's List using stevemorse.org And it comes up clear as a bell the Kaiser Wilhelm II arriving March 9, 1904. Diane -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rdpiet@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:04 PM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem If a person uses steve morse to get to ellis Island manifests it is going to bring up the same page which is wrong and does not yield desired info. It yields the same data as going direct to Ellis island...... You have to use the one that says Ellis Island Ship's Lists. Sorry for not clarifying this. Diane -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CARNER Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:02 PM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem Hi, Diane; When I click on the ship's name, the screen comes up on ancestry.com, to which I do not have a subscription. I've tried it several times & it doesn't work; am I doing something wrong again? Nancy --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Diane Jacobs <geniediane@comcast.net> wrote: From: Diane Jacobs <geniediane@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 12:20 PM Nancy, Easy problem to solve. I have done it many times. Go to http://www.stevemorse.org Click on Ship's Lists Database, Put in name of ship ,month and year And up will come the ship. Click on the name Of the ship at upper right and up will come the manifest pages. Be sure to check the detained manifest page that are Either at the end or beginning of the regular pages. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CARNER Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:09 AM To: NYC-Roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe problem is that when I click to see the original passenger manifest, it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the menu did not pertain to my question. Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & Andrej Halecki, age 32. Both were from Jedlinka. Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: Thanks, Nancy C. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If a person uses steve morse to get to ellis Island manifests it is going to bring up the same page which is wrong and does not yield desired info. It yields the same data as going direct to Ellis island...... You have to use the one that says Ellis Island Ship's Lists. Sorry for not clarifying this. Diane -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CARNER Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:02 PM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem Hi, Diane; When I click on the ship's name, the screen comes up on ancestry.com, to which I do not have a subscription. I've tried it several times & it doesn't work; am I doing something wrong again? Nancy --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Diane Jacobs <geniediane@comcast.net> wrote: From: Diane Jacobs <geniediane@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 12:20 PM Nancy, Easy problem to solve. I have done it many times. Go to http://www.stevemorse.org Click on Ship's Lists Database, Put in name of ship ,month and year And up will come the ship. Click on the name Of the ship at upper right and up will come the manifest pages. Be sure to check the detained manifest page that are Either at the end or beginning of the regular pages. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CARNER Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:09 AM To: NYC-Roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe problem is that when I click to see the original passenger manifest, it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the menu did not pertain to my question. Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & Andrej Halecki, age 32. Both were from Jedlinka. Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: Thanks, Nancy C. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You have to use the one that says Ellis Island Ship's Lists. Sorry for not clarifying this. Diane -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CARNER Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:02 PM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem Hi, Diane; When I click on the ship's name, the screen comes up on ancestry.com, to which I do not have a subscription. I've tried it several times & it doesn't work; am I doing something wrong again? Nancy --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Diane Jacobs <geniediane@comcast.net> wrote: From: Diane Jacobs <geniediane@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 12:20 PM Nancy, Easy problem to solve. I have done it many times. Go to http://www.stevemorse.org Click on Ship's Lists Database, Put in name of ship ,month and year And up will come the ship.  Click on the name Of the ship at upper right and up will come the manifest pages. Be sure to check the detained manifest page that are Either at the end or beginning of the regular pages. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CARNER Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:09 AM To: NYC-Roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe problem is that when I click to see the original passenger manifest,  it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the menu did not pertain to my question. Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & Andrej Halecki, age 32. Both were from Jedlinka. Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: Thanks, Nancy C. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nancy, Easy problem to solve. I have done it many times. Go to http://www.stevemorse.org Click on Ship's Lists Database, Put in name of ship ,month and year And up will come the ship. Click on the name Of the ship at upper right and up will come the manifest pages. Be sure to check the detained manifest page that are Either at the end or beginning of the regular pages. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CARNER Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:09 AM To: NYC-Roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe problem is that when I click to see the original passenger manifest,  it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the menu did not pertain to my question. Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & Andrej Halecki, age 32. Both were from Jedlinka. Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: Thanks, Nancy C. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try the next or preceeding page. It is often loaded wrong Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe problem is that when I click to see the original passenger manifest, it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the menu did not pertain to my question. Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & Andrej Halecki, age 32. Both were from Jedlinka. Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: Thanks, Nancy C.

Hi, I ran into the exact same problem, I used the certificate page to get the information. It has all the basic info I needed . Larry On Oct 13, 2010, at 10:08 AM, MICHAEL CARNER wrote: > Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, > 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe > problem is that when I click to see the original passenger > manifest, it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any > suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the > menu did not pertain to my question. > > Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & > Andrej Halecki, age > 32. Both were from Jedlinka. > > Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having > difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: > > Thanks, > > Nancy C. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Diane; When I click on the ship's name, the screen comes up on ancestry.com, to which I do not have a subscription. I've tried it several times & it doesn't work; am I doing something wrong again? Nancy --- On Wed, 10/13/10, Diane Jacobs <geniediane@comcast.net> wrote: From: Diane Jacobs <geniediane@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 12:20 PM Nancy, Easy problem to solve. I have done it many times. Go to http://www.stevemorse.org Click on Ship's Lists Database, Put in name of ship ,month and year And up will come the ship.  Click on the name Of the ship at upper right and up will come the manifest pages. Be sure to check the detained manifest page that are Either at the end or beginning of the regular pages. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL CARNER Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:09 AM To: NYC-Roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe problem is that when I click to see the original passenger manifest,  it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the menu did not pertain to my question. Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & Andrej Halecki, age 32. Both were from Jedlinka. Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: Thanks, Nancy C. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the passenger list on Ancestry.com. Kate --- On Wed, 10/13/10, MICHAEL CARNER <mcnc2233@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: MICHAEL CARNER <mcnc2233@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Ellis Island research problem To: NYC-Roots@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 10:08 AM Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe problem is that when I click to see the original passenger manifest,  it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the menu did not pertain to my question. Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & Andrej Halecki, age 32. Both were from Jedlinka. Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: Thanks, Nancy C. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello; I have located 2 relatives who arrived at E.I. on March 9, 1904 aboard the Kaiser Wilhelm II which sailed from Bremen. THe problem is that when I click to see the original passenger manifest,  it keeps coming up on a different page & ship. Any suggestions? I tried calling E.I. but only got a recording and the menu did not pertain to my question. Passenger names I am researching are: Anastazia Halecka, age 18 & Andrej Halecki, age 32. Both were from Jedlinka. Am I doing something wrong or is the E.I. site temporarily having difficulties; has anyone else run into this?: Thanks, Nancy C.

Hi Douglas Burnett, This might be of some help to you: Trinity Church Archives Parish of Trinity Church 74 Trinity Place, 4th Floor New York, NY 10006 Tel: 212/602-9687 Fax 212/ 602-9675 eMail: archives@trinitywallstreet.org http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/history/?archives I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY </HTML>

Hi Listers, The New York marriage certificate arrived in Australia today for my Frances Adeline STACY....... This confirmed her full name, her parent's names and her age of 30 in April 1917 (1887) when the marriage took place, So this is definitely my missing Lady. Of interest however is that the certificate very clearly states her husband's full name was Frederick Anthony CARTER (not "CAREER" as the Brides Index stated) Frederick Anthony CARTER in 1917 is described as being 37 years of age, (1880) white, single, with an occupation of valet. He like Frances was also born in England but in the county of Dorset. It was the first marriage for both. The marriage took place 25th April 1917 at the Church of Heavenly Rest in Manhattan. Since receiving the certificate I have found Frederick's UK birth registration at Wimborne, Dorset England, listed in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census where his birthplace is listed as Sturminster Marshall, Dorset. Also Fredererick Carter travelled to New York in 1911 from Liverpool, listed as a passeger on board the Teutonic. However big problem now being where are the couple when the 1920 USA Federal Census was undertaken? Any Clues Folks? cheers Bob Campbell in Australia