Jerry, I was there yesterday - it was a beautiful service! Check out the link below: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=7825572 You may even see me on there for about 3 seconds - the interview was much longer, but most of it got left on the edit room floor! Jim Gerald Tobin wrote: > Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan led a procession into St. Patrick’s Old Cathedral, which included a striped umbrella to be entrusted to the new basilica. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/nyregion/06church.html > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Lots of things are in the news. This a geneaology board not a news board. .Thats what CNN and Fox are for news.... bring an landmark up when it is in the news

It did to me. My descendents came into NYC and would have gone to that church. It was so nice to see the pictures and read the story. I feel closer to them. Madelyn -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Treborpie@aol.com Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 7:01 PM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com; ny-irish-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Cathedral With a Past; Basilica With a Future And that has absolutely nothing to do with geneaology. Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan led a procession into St. Patrick's Old Cathedral, which included a striped umbrella to be entrusted to the new basilica. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/nyregion/06church.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And that has absolutely nothing to do with geneaology. Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan led a procession into St. Patrick’s Old Cathedral, which included a striped umbrella to be entrusted to the new basilica. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/nyregion/06church.html

Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan led a procession into St. Patrick’s Old Cathedral, which included a striped umbrella to be entrusted to the new basilica. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/nyregion/06church.html

? Walter - I am always fascinated when I read these tidbits you so generously share with us. You really should write a book. It would certainly be more interesting than most textbooks! Thank you again. Carol ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Soyamaven@aol.com To: NYBROOKLYN@rootsweb.com; NYKINGS@rootsweb.com; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com; NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 10:55 pm Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Happy Evacuation Day (Thursday, Novenber 25) hursday, November 25, is not only Thanksgiving Day, but, this year, is lso the 227th Anniversary of Evacuation Day. Now almost forgotten, Evacuation Day, especially in the NYC area, was elebrated as a holiday long before the Fourth of July: On November 25, 1783, the British Army boarded their naval vessels and vacuated New York City (then only coterminous with New York County), their artime headquarters and their last military position* in the United States uring the Revolutionary War. As the British sailed away south in retreat through the Narrows separating taten Island on the west and Long Island on the east, the last thing they aw, as their ships sunk below the horizon, was the Flag of the United States f America flying atop the Liberty Pole (an extended flag pole) in the rontyard of the Dutch Reformed Church in the Hamlet of New Utrecht, Town of New Utrecht, in the south-central part of Kings County. Today this location is t Christopher Columbus Boulevard (18th Avenue) and Liberty Pole Boulevard 84th Street) in the Bensonhurst neighborhood in the south-central part of he New York City Borough of Brooklyn. (The NYC Borough of Brooklyn is oterminous with the NYS Kings County). Replaced six times over the years, the 106' Liberty Pole is the last emaining Liberty Pole in the original thirteen United States. On top of the ole s the original eagle and weathervane. The eagle is made of wood and has a ' wingspan. After two hundred and twenty-seven years, the weather has eakened it considerably and it has been reinforced with iron bands. The eagle has looked over the bay and seen many sailing vessels, steamships nd war ships. It has been said that the eyes of this golden eagle has ooked upon more change in the world's history than occurred from the days of ebuchadnezzar to the day when the eagle was raised. Here's the URL for the New Utrecht Liberty Pole Association: ttp://www.historicnewutrecht.org/LPA.html Here's the URL for the Dutch Reformed Church (celebrated its 333nd nniversary on Tuesday, October 27, 2010): ttp://www.newutrechtchurch.org/ ew Yorkers celebrated November 25 as Evacuation Day for well over a entury. But, with the warming of relations with England immediately preceding orld War I and R. H. Macy's publicity campaigns for a parade celebrating nother late November festival, Evacuation Day celebrations faded away. hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan reat Falls, MT & Jericho, NY Although the Treaty of Paris of 1783 said that Britain would evacuate all osts within the new United States, they did not. Scattered posts from resent-day Vermont to present-day Michigan remained in British hands until ay's Treaty of 1795. Niagara was one of these British held forts on U. S. soil. </HTML> ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 23:13:06 -0400 From: "Patches" <coral4@citlink.net> Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] (no subject) To: NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4CED9C02.12006.38A556C@coral4.citlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving... Cheers, Jan(patches) This! is my site: www.citlink.net/~coral4 ------------------------------ To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 246 *****************************************

Dear pie ( since you didn't sign your name), Get off the high horse. Many, many ancestors were baptized or married in that place or walked by it on their way home or to work. To bring an landmark up when it is in the news, is what skin off your nose Gail On Dec 6, 2010, at 17:03, Treborpie@aol.com wrote: > And that has absolutely nothing to do with geneaology. > > Archbishop Timothy M. Dolan led a procession into St. Patrick’s Old > Cathedral, which included a striped umbrella to be entrusted to the new basilica. > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/06/nyregion/06church.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Are you wanting to find out who their children and grandchildren were, or is this a request to find living relatives? Do you know about when and where they were married? If it was before 1920 or 1930, I think census records are the first place to look for names of children. The other place would be Arthur's obituary, which could also give you the married names of any daughters. Have you seen any of the above? If they married in Queens or another borough, their marriage might be indexed at either or both of the following http://www.italiangen.org/NYCBridessearch.asp http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/NYCMarriageSearch.asp On 11/26/10, Annie Nolan <annie.nolan1@btinternet.com> wrote: > Arthur D.Clark born November, 1901 Spouse: Eleanor Flynn. born 1903 > Lived in Jackson Heights Queens. Arthur D. died 1966 and is buried Calvary > Cemetery Queens, NY. > Searching for descendants. > > Annie

Thank you very much for mentioning this event, Walter - I certainly will be there tomorrow, as I an the Chair of the History Committee of the Basilica's 200th Anniversary Campaign. More information can also be found at: http://oldcathedral.org/index.php . At that site is also an extensive pdf file on the history of the Old Cathedral and its environs. the pdf file is at: http://oldcathedral.org/occampaign/stpat-restoration.pdf Cheers, Jim Garrity Soyamaven@aol.com wrote: > According to a report on WCBS-AM, "This Sunday a local parish church will > officially be elevated as the New York Archdiocese's first basilica. The > Catholic Church will honor St. Patrick's Old Cathedral in a special ceremony." > > The report adds, "Its new status also designates the historic church as the > pope's home parish in the archdiocese." > > For the complete report (includes links to video and audio reports), "St. > Patrick's Old Cathedral To Become Basilica", please go to: > > http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/12/03/saint-patricks-to-become-nys-only-bas > ilica/ > > If the above URL breaks up, then try: http://tinyurl.com/2ws9d9m > > > The Archdiocese of New York currently includes 10 counties: New York > County, Richmond County, Bronx County, as well as Dutchess County, Orange County, > Putnam County, Rockland County, Sullivan County, Ulster County and > Westchester County. The first three counties are coterminous with the New York City > Boroughs of Manhattan, Staten Island and the Bronx, respectively. > > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > > Regards, > > Walter Greenspan > Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY > </HTML> > > > ************************************* > Jim Garrity, List Administrator > jimgarrity@earthlink.net > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYNEWYOR-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

According to a report on WCBS-AM, "This Sunday a local parish church will officially be elevated as the New York Archdiocese's first basilica. The Catholic Church will honor St. Patrick's Old Cathedral in a special ceremony." The report adds, "Its new status also designates the historic church as the pope's home parish in the archdiocese." For the complete report (includes links to video and audio reports), "St. Patrick's Old Cathedral To Become Basilica", please go to: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/12/03/saint-patricks-to-become-nys-only-bas ilica/ If the above URL breaks up, then try: http://tinyurl.com/2ws9d9m The Archdiocese of New York currently includes 10 counties: New York County, Richmond County, Bronx County, as well as Dutchess County, Orange County, Putnam County, Rockland County, Sullivan County, Ulster County and Westchester County. The first three counties are coterminous with the New York City Boroughs of Manhattan, Staten Island and the Bronx, respectively. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY </HTML>

Sunday, 12/5 at 4 pm (to 7pm) City Winery 155 Varick St. at Vandam, NYC Enjoy Flavors from Around the World - Festival of Fried _http://citywinery.com/events/115569_ (http://citywinery.com/events/115569) With chefs creating Russian, Israeli, American, Cuban and Chinese interpretations of latkes, the fried treats served at the Second Annual Latke Festival and Cook-Off will need a passport. _City Winery_ (http://tastingtable.com/er/4470/642716/149318/to/) will be pouring five wine pairings to match the Hanukkah goodies ($32.50; _click here to purchase tickets_ (http://tastingtable.com/er/4470/642717/149318/to/) ). City Winery, 155 Varick St. (at Vandam St.); 212-608-0555 or _citywinery.com_ (http://tastingtable.com/er/4470/642718/149318/to/) Sounds like a fun afternoon. I know nothing more than what is stated above, nor am I involved in any part of this festival. I just love fabulous food... and who doesn't love fried??? ;) Kathleen~CT.

Arthur D.Clark born November, 1901 Spouse: Eleanor Flynn. born 1903 Lived in Jackson Heights Queens. Arthur D. died 1966 and is buried Calvary Cemetery Queens, NY. Searching for descendants. Annie

If anyone is interested, I have a sixteen page write up on selected New York City sights including a description of most of the 2010 Christmas window displays. List is updated every year and covers places I have been to in New York City. The listing covers 54 areas of interest (museums, Christmas window displays, famous buildings, interesting restaurants, impressive hotel lobbies, etc.) and is arranged in descending order from 104th Street to 12th Street. If you aren't familiar with New York City street sequences, the order of the Avenues from the East River to the Hudson River is also listed to help you out. The items on my list, with addresses and side street locations and some interesting historical facts and trivia are: 1. Museum of the City of New York. 2. Tree Lights On Park Avenue. 3. Metropolitan Museum of Art. 4. Rhinelander Mansion/Ralph Lauren Store. 5. The Frick Collection. 6. The Crystal District. 7. Barney's. - Christmas Windows. 8. Bloomingdale's. - Christmas Windows. 9. Plaza Hotel. 10. World's Largest Menorah. 11. Time Warner Center. 12. Van Cleff & Arpels. - Christmas Windows. 13. FAO Schwarz. 14. Bergdorf Goodman. - Christmas Windows. 15. UNICEF Snowflake. 16. Tiffany & Co. - Christmas Windows. 17. Louis Vuitton Malletier. - Christmas Windows. 18. Trump Tower. 19. Henri Bendel. - Christmas Windows. 20. The House of Harry Winston. 21. Carnegie Deli. 22. The House of Cartier. - Christmas Windows. 23. Ellen's Stardust Diner. 24. New York Palace Hotel. 25. Rockefeller Center. 26. St. Patrick's Cathedral. 27. Radio City Music Hall. 28. Saks Fifth Avenue. - Christmas Windows. 29. The Waldorf=Astoria Hotel. 30. American Girl Place. 31. Hershey's Times Square. 32. Diamond and Jewelry District. 33. Tkts Booth. 34. Joe Allen Restaurant. 35. The World of Disney Store 36. Toys "R" Us. Times Square. 37. Fred F. French Building. 38. New York Yacht Club. 39. The Westin New York At Times Square. 40. Hello Kitty Store. 41. Chrysler Building. 42. New York Public Library. 43. Grand Central Terminal. 44. 42nd Street Food Court. 45. Fetes de Noel Holiday Shops At Bryant Park. 46. The Pond At Bryant Park. 47. Kinokuniya Book Store. 48. Lionel Electric Trains. 49. Lord & Taylor Dept. Store. - Christmas Windows. 50. Great Buttons. 51. Morgan Library and Museum. 52. Macy's Herald Square. - Christmas Windows. 53. Empire State Building. 54. Forbes Magazine Galleries. If interested in a copy, you can write me OFF LIST at seamus@nycap.rr.com and I will send you the attachment. Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY

Hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving... Cheers, Jan(patches) This! is my site: www.citlink.net/~coral4

Hi Walter Thank you so much for this very interesting bit of history. I was born here and never heard of this "holiday" or flagpole, my mother was born in Brooklyn and doubt she knew. I am going to show this to my grandchildren and Aunts. Have a very Happy Thanksgiving and again thank you for all your very informative emails. Take care Marie -----Original Message----- From: Soyamaven@aol.com To: NYBROOKLYN@rootsweb.com; NYKINGS@rootsweb.com; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com; NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 10:55 pm Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Happy Evacuation Day (Thursday, Novenber 25) hursday, November 25, is not only Thanksgiving Day, but, this year, is lso the 227th Anniversary of Evacuation Day. Now almost forgotten, Evacuation Day, especially in the NYC area, was elebrated as a holiday long before the Fourth of July: On November 25, 1783, the British Army boarded their naval vessels and vacuated New York City (then only coterminous with New York County), their artime headquarters and their last military position* in the United States uring the Revolutionary War. As the British sailed away south in retreat through the Narrows separating taten Island on the west and Long Island on the east, the last thing they aw, as their ships sunk below the horizon, was the Flag of the United States f America flying atop the Liberty Pole (an extended flag pole) in the rontyard of the Dutch Reformed Church in the Hamlet of New Utrecht, Town of New Utrecht, in the south-central part of Kings County. Today this location is t Christopher Columbus Boulevard (18th Avenue) and Liberty Pole Boulevard 84th Street) in the Bensonhurst neighborhood in the south-central part of he New York City Borough of Brooklyn. (The NYC Borough of Brooklyn is oterminous with the NYS Kings County). Replaced six times over the years, the 106' Liberty Pole is the last emaining Liberty Pole in the original thirteen United States. On top of the ole s the original eagle and weathervane. The eagle is made of wood and has a ' wingspan. After two hundred and twenty-seven years, the weather has eakened it considerably and it has been reinforced with iron bands. The eagle has looked over the bay and seen many sailing vessels, steamships nd war ships. It has been said that the eyes of this golden eagle has ooked upon more change in the world's history than occurred from the days of ebuchadnezzar to the day when the eagle was raised. Here's the URL for the New Utrecht Liberty Pole Association: ttp://www.historicnewutrecht.org/LPA.html Here's the URL for the Dutch Reformed Church (celebrated its 333nd nniversary on Tuesday, October 27, 2010): ttp://www.newutrechtchurch.org/ ew Yorkers celebrated November 25 as Evacuation Day for well over a entury. But, with the warming of relations with England immediately preceding orld War I and R. H. Macy's publicity campaigns for a parade celebrating nother late November festival, Evacuation Day celebrations faded away. hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan reat Falls, MT & Jericho, NY Although the Treaty of Paris of 1783 said that Britain would evacuate all osts within the new United States, they did not. Scattered posts from resent-day Vermont to present-day Michigan remained in British hands until ay's Treaty of 1795. Niagara was one of these British held forts on U. S. soil. </HTML> ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Thursday, November 25, is not only Thanksgiving Day, but, this year, is also the 227th Anniversary of Evacuation Day. Now almost forgotten, Evacuation Day, especially in the NYC area, was celebrated as a holiday long before the Fourth of July: On November 25, 1783, the British Army boarded their naval vessels and evacuated New York City (then only coterminous with New York County), their wartime headquarters and their last military position* in the United States during the Revolutionary War. As the British sailed away south in retreat through the Narrows separating Staten Island on the west and Long Island on the east, the last thing they saw, as their ships sunk below the horizon, was the Flag of the United States of America flying atop the Liberty Pole (an extended flag pole) in the frontyard of the Dutch Reformed Church in the Hamlet of New Utrecht, Town of New Utrecht, in the south-central part of Kings County. Today this location is at Christopher Columbus Boulevard (18th Avenue) and Liberty Pole Boulevard (84th Street) in the Bensonhurst neighborhood in the south-central part of the New York City Borough of Brooklyn. (The NYC Borough of Brooklyn is coterminous with the NYS Kings County). Replaced six times over the years, the 106' Liberty Pole is the last remaining Liberty Pole in the original thirteen United States. On top of the Pole is the original eagle and weathervane. The eagle is made of wood and has a 5' wingspan. After two hundred and twenty-seven years, the weather has weakened it considerably and it has been reinforced with iron bands. The eagle has looked over the bay and seen many sailing vessels, steamships and war ships. It has been said that the eyes of this golden eagle has looked upon more change in the world's history than occurred from the days of Nebuchadnezzar to the day when the eagle was raised. Here's the URL for the New Utrecht Liberty Pole Association: http://www.historicnewutrecht.org/LPA.html Here's the URL for the Dutch Reformed Church (celebrated its 333nd anniversary on Tuesday, October 27, 2010): http://www.newutrechtchurch.org/ New Yorkers celebrated November 25 as Evacuation Day for well over a century. But, with the warming of relations with England immediately preceding World War I and R. H. Macy's publicity campaigns for a parade celebrating another late November festival, Evacuation Day celebrations faded away. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY * Although the Treaty of Paris of 1783 said that Britain would evacuate all posts within the new United States, they did not. Scattered posts from present-day Vermont to present-day Michigan remained in British hands until Jay's Treaty of 1795. Niagara was one of these British held forts on U. S. soil. </HTML>

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Hi Elizabeth, If you don't get any better suggestions, suggest to your friend that he fill in the zipcode with all "0's." For example 00000 or 00000-0000. It's worth a try. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- To: <NYc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: 12 November, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Municipal Archives problem > Here is a plea from an Irish friend that perhaps one of you could answer. > >>have you ever tried to get through to a human being at the New York City >>Municipal Archives? They don't appear to answer emails and they don't >>respond to telephone messages left on their answering machine. Everything >>seems to have to be done by filling out their online query forms, to which >>they don't appear to respond. My problem is their online order form won't >>take my credit/debit card because I don't have a Zip Code in my >>bank-statement address and a Zip Code is one of the required fields that >>has to be filled in on the NYCMA order form. Here in back-woods Bettystown >>there are no Zip Codes on peoples' addresses, so therefore there are no >>Zip Codes on their bank-statement addresses and ergo no Zip Codes on their >>credit/debit card addresses. It's just street, town, county and country >>and that's it. Surely other non US residents, who don't have Zip Codes, >>have experienced this difficulty with paying the NYCMA before?< > > I will forward your answers to him. Thanks, > > Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Here is a plea from an Irish friend that perhaps one of you could answer. >have you ever tried to get through to a human being at the New York City Municipal Archives? They don't appear to answer emails and they don't respond to telephone messages left on their answering machine. Everything seems to have to be done by filling out their online query forms, to which they don't appear to respond. My problem is their online order form won't take my credit/debit card because I don't have a Zip Code in my bank-statement address and a Zip Code is one of the required fields that has to be filled in on the NYCMA order form. Here in back-woods Bettystown there are no Zip Codes on peoples' addresses, so therefore there are no Zip Codes on their bank-statement addresses and ergo no Zip Codes on their credit/debit card addresses. It's just street, town, county and country and that's it. Surely other non US residents, who don't have Zip Codes, have experienced this difficulty with paying the NYCMA before?< I will forward your answers to him. Thanks, Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Hi Dolores, Try this list of Wards matching Manhattan street names for starts. http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Ward/1860.Man.st.ind.html Please tell us the head of household in 1860 to better help you. Barb NYC Researcher ============= sphinx998@gmail.com writes: > I hope someone can tell me the location of Ward 7, ED 1 in 1860. This > is > where my maternal gmother's family lived when they arrived in the US - > they > were residence #142. Thanks for any information. > > Dolores Palomo >