Is the SSI Certificate the same as the Death Certificate or are they two sep[arate documents. Dreeny ________________________________ From: Mary D. Taffet <mdtaffet@twcny.rr.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 21:22:33 Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records The SSA has their own form for requesting the SS-5 (<http://www.ssa.gov/online/ssa-711.pdf>), but you say that this is not what you want. If what you really want is some other online service from the SSA, you will find it on the following page if it exists: <http://www.ssa.gov/online/> If it's not on that page, then there is probably no way to request what you want online. -- Mary On 4/17/2011 1:25 PM, Rdpiet@aol.com wrote: > I  said  I  wanted  a  SS  death  record  not  the  SS 5  (application) > direct  from  the  SSA. > > ***************************************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My problem is I am looking for a fellow from OR born ca 1904/1905 in Oregon............Have him thru 1930 in Oregon. ... Then in his brothers obituary in 1952 in OR the obit states his brother is in NYC ........He is not in the SSDI so I am guerssing he died before 1965ish... I thought a year search could be done by the SSA and that is why I was asking........His daughter born 1934 only knows his name and nothing else and he apprently left his wife and daighter behind in OR........Everyone needs a briock wall........For all I know he went to Hinduras...........

The SSA has their own form for requesting the SS-5 (<http://www.ssa.gov/online/ssa-711.pdf>), but you say that this is not what you want. If what you really want is some other online service from the SSA, you will find it on the following page if it exists: <http://www.ssa.gov/online/> If it's not on that page, then there is probably no way to request what you want online. -- Mary On 4/17/2011 1:25 PM, Rdpiet@aol.com wrote: > I said I wanted a SS death record not the SS 5 (application) > direct from the SSA. > > *****************************************************************

I said I wanted a SS death record not the SS 5 (application) direct from the SSA. ***************************************************************** Try this site: http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_records/a/ss5_request.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <cdfamily@davidandcarole.info> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records > Nope, that don't work. I said I wanted to order the SS > record direcrtly on line from the SSA not a company such as > Vitalcheck. > > **************************************************************************** > ********* > > > If you go to http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi and put > in > the person's name you are looking for. Then click on the icon to order > the > SS5 Letter and follow the instructions. > > > David and Carole Annenberg > New York City USA > > www.davidandcarole.info > > -----Original Message----- > From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rdpiet@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:03 AM > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records > > > If anyone knows the URL for ordering a SS death record from > the > SSA on line could you please post it or send it to me via > e > mailr Thank you. >

It is my understanding that you cannot order the hard copy of the death certificate without paying and therefore you will be using a third party --vital check. Perhaps you could request the certificate from the state in which the person died. Costs and avialability will, of course, depend on the laws of that state. >I said I wanted a SS death record not the SS 5 (application) > direct from the SSA. > > ***************************************************************** > Try this site: > > http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_records/a/ss5_request.htm > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> > To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <cdfamily@davidandcarole.info> > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records > > >> Nope, that don't work. I said I wanted to order the SS >> record direcrtly on line from the SSA not a company such as >> Vitalcheck. >> >> > **************************************************************************** >> ********* >> >> >> If you go to http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi and > put >> in >> the person's name you are looking for. Then click on the icon to order >> the >> SS5 Letter and follow the instructions. >> >> >> David and Carole Annenberg >> New York City USA >> >> www.davidandcarole.info >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Rdpiet@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:03 AM >> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records >> >> >> If anyone knows the URL for ordering a SS death record from >> the >> SSA on line could you please post it or send it to me > via >> e >> mailr Thank you. >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try this site: http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_records/a/ss5_request.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <cdfamily@davidandcarole.info> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records > Nope, that don't work. I said I wanted to order the SS > record direcrtly on line from the SSA not a company such as > Vitalcheck. > > **************************************************************************** > ********* > > > If you go to http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi and put > in > the person's name you are looking for. Then click on the icon to order > the > SS5 Letter and follow the instructions. > > > David and Carole Annenberg > New York City USA > > www.davidandcarole.info > > -----Original Message----- > From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rdpiet@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:03 AM > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records > > > If anyone knows the URL for ordering a SS death record from > the > SSA on line could you please post it or send it to me via > e > mailr Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nope, that don't work. I said I wanted to order the SS record direcrtly on line from the SSA not a company such as Vitalcheck. **************************************************************************** ********* If you go to http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi and put in the person's name you are looking for. Then click on the icon to order the SS5 Letter and follow the instructions. David and Carole Annenberg New York City USA www.davidandcarole.info -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rdpiet@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:03 AM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records If anyone knows the URL for ordering a SS death record from the SSA on line could you please post it or send it to me via e mailr Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you go to http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi and put in the person's name you are looking for. Then click on the icon to order the SS5 Letter and follow the instructions. David and Carole Annenberg New York City USA www.davidandcarole.info -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rdpiet@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:03 AM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records If anyone knows the URL for ordering a SS death record from the SSA on line could you please post it or send it to me via e mailr Thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If anyone knows the URL for ordering a SS death record from the SSA on line could you please post it or send it to me via e mailr Thank you.

Effective this date ancestry library edition output has changed. Prior to today when searching and entering a name, eg. Jacob Smith, b 1865; the out put was all recordfs hitting those parametes. Starting today, the output has been indiviual records, i.e. census, military, immigration., etc only. My questions is, have these changes also been effected on ancestry.com or are they restricted to ancestry library edition. Thanks

Thanks so much, Lily. Everything we try leads us right back to Peoplesmart or Italius. My friend already paid money to PeopleSmart, whereupon they told him they really had no info on the person listed. What a racket! Sorry I was not clear before. I feel I have exhausted the Internet, including Ancestry. What I need is for a LOCAL person to check the phone books or call a local library that would still hold the slightly older ones. I have a clue that he might have moved up to White Plains ca 2002. Or he may be dead (and not in SS death index), and his widow (probably Josephine) is now out on Long Island. Thank you all for all your tries. Elizabeth > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:20:00 +0200 > From: "Lilly Martin" <nezars@aloola.sy> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] how to find living people > > Hello Elizabeth and all others, > > Usually we are looking for dead relatives but sometimes we need to find > relatives who are alive. > > http://veromi.net This website is FREE to search. > Go ahead and do a search on yourself, or people you know. You will find > them, their relatives listed, usually spouse and kids, but sometimes a > parent. > You will find the places they have lived. > Use the information as your 'base' to begin investigating. > > www.zabasearch.com This website is FREE to search. You will find people, > their address and sometimes telephone numbers. You will find a bit of > 'history', for example birth date, or year, and their will be a date given > sometimes to a particular address. For example: you might find several > addresses listed for the same person, but one will be dated 2001 and the > next 2009. So you can work on the newer address. > > After you do veromi, then zabasearch, then progress to a more normal > "phone-book" which would be for example: www.anywho.com , or there are > others. Maybe google for "online telephone address directory". > > DO NOT forget FACEBOOK. I have found everyone on facebook. Even people in > the 80's are on, trying to stay in touch with grandkids, and other > relatives. > > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > does anyone have a way to find live people there? > > > > Yes, I have his Naturalization record off Ancestry and an address dating > > between 1950 and 1990, but I want something current. > > > > Thanks so much for any help. > > > > Elizabeth W. Knowlton

The Intelius listing does include the address. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com>; <knowltonew@earthlink.net> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Eugene Patrick Molloy, b 1934, Ireland,living in Bronx And if there was a listing for a landline it would be on the web so why spend money ?? Intelius appears to return listing information when your target has a listed landline ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And if there was a listing for a landline it would be on the web so why spend money ?? Intelius appears to return listing information when your target has a listed landline

Intelius will sell it to you for $1.95. That's Eugene Molloy, age 76, with wife named Josephine. Intelius appears to return listing information when your target has a listed land line (I tested that with folk I know in NYC) but charges you when the information is found in another way. I did find a listing for Josephine Molloy, but it is in Little Neck. The other free white page search engines all seem to have disappeared. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Rdpiet@aol.com> To: <knowltonew@earthlink.net>; <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Eugene Patrick Molloy, b 1934, Ireland,living in Bronx Eugene Molloy 12 Apr 1934 66017 Broadway 7l Bronx NY 10471 No phone numer listed. Maybe using cell. am trying to find contact information (address or phone number) for this relative of someone I know in Ireland who has been awfully helpful with Irish genealogy. I can tell Eugene Molloy has not died (no SS death index) and is still living in the Bronx (PeopleSmart item) about to turn 77 this year. Do you all still have phone books in NYC? (Atlanta has not published one since 2008), or does anyone have a way to find live people there? Yes, I have his Naturalization record off Ancestry and an address dating between 1950 and 1990, but I want something current. Thanks so much for any help. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Elizabeth and all others, Usually we are looking for dead relatives but sometimes we need to find relatives who are alive. http://veromi.net This website is FREE to search. Go ahead and do a search on yourself, or people you know. You will find them, their relatives listed, usually spouse and kids, but sometimes a parent. You will find the places they have lived. Use the information as your 'base' to begin investigating. www.zabasearch.com This website is FREE to search. You will find people, their address and sometimes telephone numbers. You will find a bit of 'history', for example birth date, or year, and their will be a date given sometimes to a particular address. For example: you might find several addresses listed for the same person, but one will be dated 2001 and the next 2009. So you can work on the newer address. After you do veromi, then zabasearch, then progress to a more normal "phone-book" which would be for example: www.anywho.com , or there are others. Maybe google for "online telephone address directory". DO NOT forget FACEBOOK. I have found everyone on facebook. Even people in the 80's are on, trying to stay in touch with grandkids, and other relatives. Best regards, Lilly Martin does anyone have a way to find live people there? > > Yes, I have his Naturalization record off Ancestry and an address dating > between 1950 and 1990, but I want something current. > > Thanks so much for any help. > > Elizabeth W. Knowlton

Eugene Molloy 12 Apr 1934 66017 Broadway 7l Bronx NY 10471 No phone numer listed. Maybe using cell. am trying to find contact information (address or phone number) for this relative of someone I know in Ireland who has been awfully helpful with Irish genealogy. I can tell Eugene Molloy has not died (no SS death index) and is still living in the Bronx (PeopleSmart item) about to turn 77 this year. Do you all still have phone books in NYC? (Atlanta has not published one since 2008), or does anyone have a way to find live people there? Yes, I have his Naturalization record off Ancestry and an address dating between 1950 and 1990, but I want something current. Thanks so much for any help.

I am trying to find contact information (address or phone number) for this relative of someone I know in Ireland who has been awfully helpful with Irish genealogy. I can tell Eugene Molloy has not died (no SS death index) and is still living in the Bronx (PeopleSmart item) about to turn 77 this year. Do you all still have phone books in NYC? (Atlanta has not published one since 2008), or does anyone have a way to find live people there? Yes, I have his Naturalization record off Ancestry and an address dating between 1950 and 1990, but I want something current. Thanks so much for any help. Elizabeth W. Knowlton Atlanta, GA

Sorry I typed an incorrect email. It should be mehroz.baig@gmail.com -----Original Message----- From: fewrodier <fewrodier@aol.com> To: nyc-roots <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Cc: mehroz.baid <mehroz.baid@gmail.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 1:48 pm Subject: Bronx Genealogy A journalism graduate student from Columbia University is interested in talking with people doing family genealogies of Bronx Families for an article. Anyone interested can contact Mehroz Baid at mehroz.baid@gmail.com Frances Wittmer Rodier

A journalism graduate student from Columbia University is interested in talking with people doing family genealogies of Bronx Families for an article. Anyone interested can contact Mehroz Baid at mehroz.baid@gmail.com Frances Wittmer Rodier

Hi Roberta, Have you tried looking for a burial record from St. Marks Church? Even if he died elsewhere, if that was his church, they might have had a burial service for him. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta" To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: 31 March, 2011 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Death Record for Manhattan, New York - 1890 > List: Sorry for the problems with the e-mail - Have new Windows 7 > computer and it is giving me fits. > > Will start over: > > Hans Wilhelm Westergaard was born in Denmark, married in New York City in > 1881 and apparently died in New York City in about 1890. His wife and > two > sons left New York in 1894 for Kobenhavn and remained there. A later > record from Denmark indicates Hans Wilhelm died in 1890 but with no > location > of his place of death. Believe they attended St. Marks Church as my > grandfather was christened there in 1882 as well as his brother in 1885. > The family returned to NYC from a visit to Denmark in 1889. This was > the > last actual verified record that I have found. > > Roberta