Edward McMahon died May 11,1916 Manhattan it was a homicide. Thank you Gail

Hi Judy, Have you tried these sources: 1) http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Birth/index.html 2) NEW YORK BIRTHS CHRISTENINGS 1640-1962 via LDS pilot > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=allCollections;r=0 3) Article on births and delayed birth registrations: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~clifflamere/Bp/BirthCertsNY.htm Barb Metro NYC Researcher =========================== msgene@mac.com writes: > Can someone tell me what happened to all the old NYC birth records > that were indexed with certificate # available on line several years > ago? The Italian & German Gen web sites only have for 1901-1908. "It's all now you see. Yesterday won't be over until tomorrow and tomorrow began ten thousand years ago. " William Faulkner

Would anyone please have the above named people in their research. My Henry and Rose, along with Henrys sisiter Agnes E, emmigrated from Isle-of-Wight UK 1899. They were all in domestic service and had connections to the Bronx, Westchester, Stamford and Fairfield areas with family connections. My last find on Henry and Rose was in the 1930 census which shows them both retired in the Bronx area, Henry 68 and Rose 65. I cannot find what happened to Agnes after 1910 when they were all in service together with Henrys niece Dora Scovell. Would love to know when Henry and Rose died and where buried. Agnes too. I do have all thenecessary information on Dora Scovell, her marriage, child , death and where buried. This "block" just will not move. Kind regards. April

Hi April, Have you tried looking for a marriage record for Agnes? And for death records for Henry & Rose? If not, go to http://www.theGGG.org They have vital records databases. Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "April" To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: 10 May, 2011 9:38 AM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] HENRY MORRIS wife ROSE E MORRIS > Would anyone please have the above named people in their research. > > My Henry and Rose, along with Henrys sisiter Agnes E, emmigrated from > Isle-of-Wight UK 1899. > > They were all in domestic service and had connections to the Bronx, > Westchester, Stamford and Fairfield areas with family connections. > > My last find on Henry and Rose was in the 1930 census which shows them > both retired in the Bronx area, Henry 68 and Rose 65. > > I cannot find what happened to Agnes after 1910 when they were all in > service together with Henrys niece Dora Scovell. > > Would love to know when Henry and Rose died and where buried. Agnes > too. > > I do have all thenecessary information on Dora Scovell, her > marriage, child , death and where buried. > > This "block" just will not move. > > Kind regards. > > April

For years what they did have were old marriage and death records. Birth records of any kind are a relatively new addition. Projects are constantly being worked on to add to what is already online. If you would like to see more records online more quickly, volunteer to help put them there. ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Eggers" To: <NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: 10 May, 2011 8:44 AM Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] old NYC Birth records > Hello, > > Can someone tell me what happened to all the old NYC birth records > that were indexed with certificate # available on line several years > ago? The Italian & German Gen web sites only have for 1901-1908. Are > the older birth records still on line somewhere? > Thanks > Judy > J. Eggers

Older records are on line at fee based ancestry.com for 1891-1902 New York City Birth The LDS in SLC Utah has many films cintaining birth records also. ******************************************************************* Can someone tell me what happened to all the old NYC birth records that were indexed with certificate # available on line several years ago? The Italian & German Gen web sites only have for 1901-1908. Are the older birth records still on line somewhere? Thanks

Hello, Can someone tell me what happened to all the old NYC birth records that were indexed with certificate # available on line several years ago? The Italian & German Gen web sites only have for 1901-1908. Are the older birth records still on line somewhere? Thanks Judy J. Eggers Msgene@mac.com

Ancestry Library Edition is what is made available to public libraries. Did you try looking at Ancestry's card catalog for the database you want? Bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert B" To: "NYC Genealogy" <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: 09 May, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] ancestry library edition and ancestry.com > > Hi > What exactly is Ancestry Library Edition? > I've looked on Ancestry but have not found a clear explanation. > I was told that I could find the The Rhode Island 1777 Military Census on > Ancestry.com but have not been able to find it. Would it be behind the > Library Edition and is that a different subscription $ ? > Thanks > Bob Babcock

Hi What exactly is Ancestry Library Edition? I've looked on Ancestry but have not found a clear explanation. I was told that I could find the The Rhode Island 1777 Military Census on Ancestry.com but have not been able to find it. Would it be behind the Library Edition and is that a different subscription $ ? Thanks Bob Babcock > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:13:40 -0400 > From: bobbidoll@optonline.net > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] ancestry library edition and ancestry.com > > I don't know if you ever got a response. Ancestry.com still gives output > the "old" way. > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 14 April, 2011 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] ancestry library edition and ancestry.com > > > > Effective this date ancestry library edition output has changed. > > Prior to today when searching and entering a name, eg. Jacob > > Smith, b 1865; the out put was all recordfs hitting those > > parametes. Starting today, the output has been indiviual records, > > i.e. > > census, military, immigration., etc only. > > > > My questions is, have these changes also been effected on > > ancestry.com or are they restricted to ancestry library edition. > > > > Thanks > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know if you ever got a response. Ancestry.com still gives output the "old" way. ----- Original Message ----- To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: 14 April, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] ancestry library edition and ancestry.com > Effective this date ancestry library edition output has changed. > Prior to today when searching and entering a name, eg. Jacob > Smith, b 1865; the out put was all recordfs hitting those > parametes. Starting today, the output has been indiviual records, > i.e. > census, military, immigration., etc only. > > My questions is, have these changes also been effected on > ancestry.com or are they restricted to ancestry library edition. > > Thanks

I just filed a find on the Rhode Island 1777 Military Census from Ancestry - it popped up when I clicked on military when checking on Pardon Gray of Tiverton, Newport, RI. Didn't take any special search. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert B Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 6:04 PM To: NYC Genealogy Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] ancestry library edition and ancestry.com Hi What exactly is Ancestry Library Edition? I've looked on Ancestry but have not found a clear explanation. I was told that I could find the The Rhode Island 1777 Military Census on Ancestry.com but have not been able to find it. Would it be behind the Library Edition and is that a different subscription $ ? Thanks Bob Babcock > Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:13:40 -0400 > From: bobbidoll@optonline.net > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] ancestry library edition and ancestry.com > > I don't know if you ever got a response. Ancestry.com still gives output > the "old" way. > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 14 April, 2011 2:44 PM > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] ancestry library edition and ancestry.com > > > > Effective this date ancestry library edition output has changed. > > Prior to today when searching and entering a name, eg. Jacob > > Smith, b 1865; the out put was all recordfs hitting those > > parametes. Starting today, the output has been indiviual records, > > i.e. > > census, military, immigration., etc only. > > > > My questions is, have these changes also been effected on > > ancestry.com or are they restricted to ancestry library edition. > > > > Thanks > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris, In the 1870 U.S. census, living in in Adams Township, Allen Co., Indiana, Frank Greave 47 Hanover Joseph 22,John 19,Matilda 17,Clara 15,Catherine 11,Mary 9,Emma 6, all born Indiana John Greave 84 Hanover Mary Greve 75 Hanover Note different surname spellings Jack Langton

Hullo there - thankyou for your input Mary GREVE was born c 1795 in Hannover, Germany - possibly near Bremen. She married Cord Friedrich GREVE and after having had several children in Hannover they migrated to South Australia. Her husband Cord/Cordi/Cort , died in South Australia in 1857. I have found a Mary GREVE in Ohio, but can't be certain she is mine. There are no other US family living in Ohio, but that doesn't mean anything! Reasons for sons living in NJ and PA is that Henry married Sophie SURGANTY in Elmira, NY - they had two sons Frank and Harry. The family then returned to South Australia in 1877 - Henry's home state. Henry and Sophie had several children - one of whom was Joseph. Harry and Frank returned to US - Frank joined the Navy and was killed on the SS Maine in Havana Harbour, Cuba (Beginning of the Spanish-American War) Harry, his brother,, joined the 3rd Pennsylvania Volunteers, returned at some stage to PA and married and lived in Reading. His younger brother Joseph left South Australia and settled in NJ. I will only be able to progress with my GREVE search when I find the ship that Mary travelled on from London, UK - it may just give me her forwarding address and therefore her sons - I have not been able to find her on the 1870 Census and I can't find her sons because I don't know their names - all a bit of a brick wall really But I hope there is someone who will be able to help me. Regards Chris in Hahndorf South Australia _____ From: Rdpiet@aol.com [mailto:Rdpiet@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2011 10:56 AM To: anderstritt@iinet.com.au Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Family GREVE, ANDERS,SURGANTY Where was Mary born ?? Have you tried US census records ?? He was companion to his grandmother Mary GREVE aged approx 70 years old. She left Adelaide, Sth Australia to join her sons in New York. The names of these sons are not known. What information, if any do you need on Henry's children ?? Seems odd that Harry would return to Australia in 1877 and sons are in NJ and PA.... One of Henry's sons Joseph lived in New Jersey, another Harry lived in Reading, PA, the eldest, Frank, died on the SS Maine _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3611 - Release Date: 05/02/11

Good morning Listers This is my first posting on this site and I am hopeful that someone can help me In 1866 my Great Grandfather Henry (Heinrich Wilhelm) ANDERS aged 16 years travelled from South Australia to London, UK to New York, USA. He was companion to his grandmother Mary GREVE aged approx 70 years old. She left Adelaide, Sth Australia to join her sons in New York. The names of these sons are not known. If anyone could give me any information particularly on Mary GREVE - she arrived in New York (family hearsay) in August 1866 - the name of the ship is not known but we do know it was a sailing ship. Henry stayed in USA and moved to Elmira, NY - married Sophie SURGANTY, had two sons, and returned to South Australia in 1877 where his family grew One of Henry's sons Joseph lived in New Jersey, another Harry lived in Reading, PA, the eldest, Frank, died on the SS Maine Any information on these families would be great Regards Chris in Hahndorf South Australia

Does anyone know if there was a St. Mary's nursing school in Manhattan, c. 1905. I Googled and found a St. Mary's hospital in Brooklyn for that time frame. I just want to make sure I did not miss one that could have been in Manhattan. Thanks, Bobbi

On 4/18/2011 11:50 AM, DougB81042@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/18/2011 4:06:07 PM GMT Daylight Time, > bmcmahon@localnet.com writes: > >> Great site -- thanks. However, I tried to input a birth date as >> instructed MM/DD/YYYY and tried it about 20 times; JN 02 1890 and I kept >> getting messages that I needed to put it > for January 02 1890 try > 01/02/1890 > Doug > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3581 - Release Date: 04/18/11 02:37:00 > Thanks, again!

In a message dated 4/18/2011 4:06:07 PM GMT Daylight Time, bmcmahon@localnet.com writes: > > Great site -- thanks. However, I tried to input a birth date as > instructed MM/DD/YYYY and tried it about 20 times; JN 02 1890 and I kept > getting messages that I needed to put it for January 02 1890 try 01/02/1890 Doug

On 4/17/2011 11:35 AM, CD Family wrote: > If you go to http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi and put in > the person's name you are looking for. Then click on the icon to order the > SS5 Letter and follow the instructions. > > > David and Carole Annenberg > New York City USA > > www.davidandcarole.info > > -----Original Message----- > From: nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nyc-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Rdpiet@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 7:03 AM > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records > > > If anyone knows the URL for ordering a SS death record from the > SSA on line could you please post it or send it to me via e > mailr Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3579 - Release Date: 04/17/11 02:34:00 > Great site -- thanks. However, I tried to input a birth date as instructed MM/DD/YYYY and tried it about 20 times; JN 02 1890 and I kept getting messages that I needed to put it in correctly. I tried a number of ways -- nothing worked. What did I do wrong? bmcmahon@localnet.com

Dreeny, Generally when people request a genealogically-oriented item related to Social Security, they are requesting a copy of the SS-5, which is the application that the person filled out in order to obtain a Social Security number. These documents can be invaluable because they provide not only the names of both parents, including the mother's maiden name, they also include a different birth name if there was one -- imagine my surprise to learn that the birth name of my husband's grandfather Irving Siegel was in fact Samuel Saminowitch. So they can also provide evidence of an earlier surname prior to a change. The SS-5 will generally also provide a street address, occupation and perhaps an employer's name. A death certificate may provide some of the same information, but then again it might not, especially if the informant does not know the information. These are two completely separate documents. To be honest, I really don't know what sort of record the other person was seeking to find that wasn't an SS-5. I have never before heard of such a thing as a "death record" being provided by the Social Security administration. Perhaps they exist, but if they do, I have no knowledge of them. -- Mary On 4/18/2011 10:30 AM, Doreen Jackson wrote: > Is the SSI Certificate the same as the Death Certificate or are they two > sep[arate documents. > > Dreeny > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mary D. Taffet<mdtaffet@twcny.rr.com> > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 21:22:33 > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records > > The SSA has their own form for requesting the SS-5 > (<http://www.ssa.gov/online/ssa-711.pdf>), but you say that this is not > what you want. > > If what you really want is some other online service from the SSA, you > will find it on the following page if it exists: > > <http://www.ssa.gov/online/> > > If it's not on that page, then there is probably no way to request what > you want online. > > -- Mary > > > On 4/17/2011 1:25 PM, Rdpiet@aol.com wrote: >> I said I wanted a SS death record not the SS 5 (application) >> direct from the SSA.

Mary, Thank you, that is very informative and interesting. I filled out the application for a copy of SS-5 and was told I could not obtain one. I have the Death Certificate for the person in question so before trying another avenue, perhaps, wanted to make sure. I live in England and the Death Certificate was obtained for me by an email friend in the US who is loosely related to the dead person. The death was in Texas in 1983. dreeny ________________________________ From: Mary D. Taffet <mdtaffet@twcny.rr.com> To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 18 April, 2011 15:48:32 Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records Dreeny, Generally when people request a genealogically-oriented item related to Social Security, they are requesting a copy of the SS-5, which is the application that the person filled out in order to obtain a Social Security number. These documents can be invaluable because they provide not only the names of both parents, including the mother's maiden name, they also include a different birth name if there was one -- imagine my surprise to learn that the birth name of my husband's grandfather Irving Siegel was in fact Samuel Saminowitch. So they can also provide evidence of an earlier surname prior to a change. The SS-5 will generally also provide a street address, occupation and perhaps an employer's name. A death certificate may provide some of the same information, but then again it might not, especially if the informant does not know the information. These are two completely separate documents. To be honest, I really don't know what sort of record the other person was seeking to find that wasn't an SS-5. I have never before heard of such a thing as a "death record" being provided by the Social Security administration. Perhaps they exist, but if they do, I have no knowledge of them. -- Mary On 4/18/2011 10:30 AM, Doreen Jackson wrote: > Is the SSI Certificate the same as the Death Certificate or are they two > sep[arate documents. > > Dreeny > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mary D. Taffet<mdtaffet@twcny.rr.com> > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 21:22:33 > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] SS death records > > The SSA has their own form for requesting the SS-5 > (<http://www.ssa.gov/online/ssa-711.pdf>), but you say that this is not > what you want. > > If what you really want is some other online service from the SSA, you > will find it on the following page if it exists: > > <http://www.ssa.gov/online/> > > If it's not on that page, then there is probably no way to request what > you want online. > > -- Mary > > > On 4/17/2011 1:25 PM, Rdpiet@aol.com wrote: >> I said I wanted a SS death record not the SS 5 (application) >> direct from the SSA. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message