The May 31, 1902 edition of the Brooklyn Eagle has an article entitled "Kings County Surrogate's Court" which states for the week ending May 31 "letters of guardianship were issued on the persons and property of . Lyona Eastwood and Leo Eastwood to John S. Eastwood". Is it possible to get a copy of these letters and any related documents? If so, how?

Walter, that's THE Bronte sisters in Brussels. >In 1842 Charlotte Bronte and her sister Emily travelled to Brussels to enroll in a boarding school run by Constantin Heger (1809�96) and his wife Claire Zo� Parent Heger (1814�91). In return for board and tuition, Charlotte taught English and Emily taught music. Their time at the boarding school was cut short when Elizabeth Branwell, their aunt who joined the family after the death of their mother to look after the children, died of internal obstruction in October 1842. Charlotte returned alone to Brussels in January 1843 to take up a teaching post at the boarding school. Her second stay at the boarding school was not a happy one; she became lonely, homesick and deeply attached to Constantin Heger. She finally returned to Haworth in January 1844 and later used her time at the boarding school as the inspiration for some of The Professor and Villette.< Wikapedia Villette is a much underread novel. Will you attend any lectures by the Dutch Historian? I have often wondered why my ancestor, Jacob Wilkins of NYC, named one of his sons States or Staats Wilkins. Have found no connection as yet. The boy's mother was a Rapalje. Elizabeth > Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:54:24 -0400 (EDT) > From: Soyamaven@aol.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Dutch Historian available for public lectures > Fall/Winter 2011/12 > > > The following (follows my name/address) was picked up from the > _NYHIST-L@listserv.nysed.gov_ (mailto:NYHIST-L@listserv.nysed.gov) list. > > > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > > Regards, > > Walter Greenspan > Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY > > > > Historian Eric Ruijssenaars is available for public lectures Fall and > Winter > 2011/2012. > > Dr. Ruijssenaars, the New Netherland Research Center?s first Senior Scholar > in Residence, is the founder of Dutch Archives, a historical research firm > in Leiden, the Netherlands. Although a specialist in the history of Russia > and the Netherlands, he is also a scholar of the Bront? sisters in Brussels > and has published two books on the subject. Currently he is researching the > life of Abraham Staats. > > In 1642, Abraham Staats arrived in the Dutch colony of New Netherland to > serve as a surgeon on patroon Kiliaen van Rensselaer?s vast estate, > Rensselaerswijck, now part of Albany and Rensselaer counties. Over the > course of his life, Staats became a magistrate of the court, a captain of > the burgher guard, the owner of a sloop that made regular trips to New > Amsterdam (New York City), and an Indian language translator. Something of > an oddity in rough-and-tumble New Netherland, he remained a very > respectable > man and was, for that reason, regularly called on to mediate disputes > between his less respectable and more litigious neighbors. > > The New Netherland Research Center is a partnership of the New Netherland > Institute and the New York State Office of Cultural Education, which is > comprised of the State Library, the State Archives, the State Museum, and > the Office of Educational Television and Public Broadcasting. The NNRC > promotes and supports both New Netherland scholarship and educational > opportunities for teachers, students, and the public. It continues and > extends the work of the New York State Library's New Netherland Project, > which since 1974 has preserved, transcribed, translated, and published 17th > century documents in order to make the history of the Dutch colonial > presence in North America more broadly accessible for study. > > For more information or to schedule a presentation, contact Ann Pfau, > _apfau@mail.nysed.gov_ (mailto:apfau@mail.nysed.gov) >

The following (follows my name/address) was picked up from the _NYHIST-L@listserv.nysed.gov_ (mailto:NYHIST-L@listserv.nysed.gov) list. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY Historian Eric Ruijssenaars is available for public lectures Fall and Winter 2011/2012. Dr. Ruijssenaars, the New Netherland Research Center’s first Senior Scholar in Residence, is the founder of Dutch Archives, a historical research firm in Leiden, the Netherlands. Although a specialist in the history of Russia and the Netherlands, he is also a scholar of the Brontë sisters in Brussels and has published two books on the subject. Currently he is researching the life of Abraham Staats. In 1642, Abraham Staats arrived in the Dutch colony of New Netherland to serve as a surgeon on patroon Kiliaen van Rensselaer’s vast estate, Rensselaerswijck, now part of Albany and Rensselaer counties. Over the course of his life, Staats became a magistrate of the court, a captain of the burgher guard, the owner of a sloop that made regular trips to New Amsterdam (New York City), and an Indian language translator. Something of an oddity in rough-and-tumble New Netherland, he remained a very respectable man and was, for that reason, regularly called on to mediate disputes between his less respectable and more litigious neighbors. The New Netherland Research Center is a partnership of the New Netherland Institute and the New York State Office of Cultural Education, which is comprised of the State Library, the State Archives, the State Museum, and the Office of Educational Television and Public Broadcasting. The NNRC promotes and supports both New Netherland scholarship and educational opportunities for teachers, students, and the public. It continues and extends the work of the New York State Library's New Netherland Project, which since 1974 has preserved, transcribed, translated, and published 17th century documents in order to make the history of the Dutch colonial presence in North America more broadly accessible for study. For more information or to schedule a presentation, contact Ann Pfau, _apfau@mail.nysed.gov_ (mailto:apfau@mail.nysed.gov)

Does anyone know where to address historical queries for the Marble Collegiate Church? L

Can anyone help me define this neighborhood ? I am trying to determine both the neighborhood and if there was a catholic church in that neighborhood that was attended by german immigrant families. It may lead me to marrige records with more info on the family origins. 1860 censuss Andrew and Barbara GAHAN (actually GAHN) two children, John and Eliza probably married 1845-55 thanks for any thoughts or suggestions..

I think I've found my ancestor on Ancestry'sNew York, Civil War Muster Roll Abstracts, 1861-1900. I'm able to read most of this record, but would appreciate it if someone could help with the little bit I"m unsure of. It is the record for Adoff Blusten. Under the remarks, it reads: Remarks: Muster roll for Sept-Oct 62 shows him Absent sick. [*there is a faint date at the start of this next line]  Sent to Hospital from Fair Oaks. June 1, 62 nothing further on Company or Regimental records. [then there's a bunch of very faint writing] Present [a word I can't read] as Adoph Bluestar. Muster Roll June 20/62. Sick in Hospital Muster Roll August 31/62 same at New York City Muster Roll Oct 31 1862 same. I'd like to know exactly what the sentence about Adoph Bluestar says. My ancestor was Adolph Blaustern - Bluestar would be the English translation of this name. I want to be certain that Adoff Blusten is really Adolph Bluestar/Blaustern. (The age is right, which makes me 99% sure it's him.) Thank you, Lisa

This is NOT Mayor/Colonel Richard Varick (b 1753 - d1831) who married Maria Roosevelt - they had no issue. I have been searching for "my" Richard Varick since the late 1960s and have gathered considerable information and I need someone who is knowledgeable about early New York to help me put these facts together (or throw them away). "My" Richard was born about 1780 in New York. He appeared to have had several children including a son John James Varick. John James was born in NYC either 1819 or 1821. He died intestate in Jersey City, NJ November 12, 1882. His death certificate names his parents as Richard Varick and Marjory Foster. I found a Richard I believe to be "my" Richard in these New York City directories: 1810 boatman 84 James Street, 1812 no occupation given 10 Mott Street, 1814 no occupation given 25 James Street, 1815 Mariner 31 Lombardy Street, 1819/1820 Mariner 16 Pike Street, 1821/1822 Grand N Chrystie. That is the last I found him in the directory or in a census (by name). 1819 NYC census of Jurors, Ward 7, Richard Varick 16 Pike Street, laborer, age 40, 4 males, 5 females in household. "Tenants renting $5 per annum" total of 9 persons in household. 1830 census, 14th Ward, NYC had head of the household as Margaret Varick with 1M 5-9, 2 M 10-14, 1M 15-19, 3 M 20-29, 1 M 40-49, 1F 40-49. New York City directory, 1834/35 Marjory Varick, widow of Richard and 1835/36 Margarey Varick, widow of Richard. 1850 census New York City, District 3, ward 9, this Varick Family: Margaret 66, idiotic, Phineas 37, idiotic, Elizabeth 35, Joseph 38 and in the household with them is Samuel Bennett 38 . 1850 census, New York City, 8th Ward, this Varick Family: John 28, blacksmith, Elizabeth 27, Sarah J 8, Susan 7, John 3, Rachel 1. John James mother Margaret indentured him to William Hesketh, blacksmith, November 20, 1838 (I have the original indenture papers). I would be most grateful if someone would use the above facts and put them together to see if you come to the same conclusion I did. I have much more information which I will happily send to anyone who is interested. Floreda Varick (Varick by marriage).

Hi, for those of us with digest mode, we must scroll through every inch (cannot Just Delete without missing messages) of what we receive. When you hit Reply and do not delete long strings of unrelated material included below your message, it makes it really hard to read through. I have many skills and could help a lot of people but often miss your requests because of this problem. Remember to make good Subject lines too. THANKS. Elizabeth

Hi lists members My name is Joan Beebe Meddaugh of Candor, NY and I am in the process of doing some "history" house cleaning specifically, news papers. So thought I would make a general query to all the lists I belong to regarding these papers so that you in turn can forward this query to someone you think might be interested and so forth. If I were to place them at auction, I am guessing that some of these newspapers might go for a fairly hansom price while others decidedly will not, I at least would like to get a little something out of them perhaps what I paid for them which was $30.00. I also feel they need to be in a place where they will be lovingly and gently taken care of and shared , like on line or in a museum and not placed in someones collection and left there to be later tossed out by people that don't give a hoot about them when they are no longer wanted and appreciated. Well enough said about my feelings on the matter here are some of the papers that I have. 1. a September 7th , 1901 edition of the Rural New-Yorker Vol., LX No. 2692 Condition very good to excellent considering its age of over 100 years. 2. December 16th, 1899 edition of the Rural New-Yorker Vol., LVIII No. 2603 Condition very good to excellent considering its age. 3. April 3, 1887 edition of the Rural New-Yorker Vol., LVI No. 2462 Condition very good to excellent Vol., Condition very good to excellent. 4. Also a January 1, 1898 edition of the Rural New-Yorker Vol., LVII No. 2501 . Condition very good to excellent 5. November 30, 1895 edition of the Rural New-Yorker Vol., LIV No. 2392 Condition very good to excellent 6. June 5, 1897 edition of the Rural New-Yorker Vol., LVL No. 2471 Condition very good to excellent 7. March 3, 1921 edition of the Rural New-Yorker Vol., LXXX No.4628 Condition fair to good 8. January 17, 1953 edition of the Rural New-Yorker I find no volume or Number listed on this one. Condition fair. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Below are the Kennedy papers that I will be willing to send to someone who is collecting them for posterity. All I ask is that you will be willing to pay for shipping plus $5.00. These are what I have for now but know I have more "stored" in my office just itching to find a new home where they will be appreciated. I also have a number of papers talking about the death of Pres. Kennedy and some on his brother Robert for anyone interested in owning info about their assassination.

Hi Sean, If you join the NY-CENSUS-LOOKUP mailing list - there are some wonderful people on there who may be able to find them from 1905 through to about 1930, supposing they stayed in New York. Juliet -----Original Message----- From: sean roche Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:45 AM To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] ROCHE family emigrants to NEW YORK 1903 - 1910 hi, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the following relatives, who emigrated to NEW YORK and we know nothing about them. All I have is their records at ELLIS ISLAND. Thanks in advance for any help, MARY ROCHE b. 1885, arrived 30 APR 1903. PATRICK ROCHE b. 1883, arrived 13 APR 1905. DELIA ROCHE b. 1889, arrived 10 APR JUN 1909. MARTIN ROCHE b. 1887, arrived 5 JUN 1910. They had a brother JOHN (my Grandfather) who remained on the family farm in Ireland, and a sister KATE who married and remained in Ireland as well. They were all originally from a place called FEAGH in Co. GALWAY, IRELAND. The local significant town was BALLGLUNIN - which is where some of the movie THE QUIET MAN was filmed. Thats all I have I am afraid Regards, SEAN > From: nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 112 > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 01:00:33 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [NYQUEENS] When HARLEM was a village. (Gerald Tobin) > 2. When HARLEM was a village. (Soyamaven@aol.com) > 3. Re: When HARLEM was a village. (Rdpiet@aol.com) > 4. Protestant Churches near 21 Baxter St. (Bob Pearce) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 16:18:22 -0400 > From: Gerald Tobin <tobinger@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] [NYQUEENS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <A509E7ED-3B17-4B2D-AA4E-11BB26D98659@frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:59 PM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > > > A few years ago, I believe that it was the NYC-L list member Charles > > MARSHALL > > (marshallcw80@gmail.com) who referred to Harlem as a VILLAGE. Bob > > PIETERSE > > (rdpiet@aol.com) debated the accuracy of the word "village" as it > > pertained > > to Harlem, called Haarlem by the Dutch, located in northernmost New York > > County. > > > > Since the list administrator at NYC-L, Carol Head, no longer accepts my > > post "her list", anyone is welcome to forward this post, to that list. > > > > Early New York - When Harlem Was A Village > >> URL: http://www.oldandsold.com/articles11/new-york-history-18.shtml > > > > This article above, confirms that Harlem was in fact once a village of > > NYC. > > > > Barb > > Metro NYC Researcher > > Published Genealogical Author > > Member of GGG & IHR > > > > @ BAMSEWL 9/7/2011 > > > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYQUEENS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:04:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: Soyamaven@aol.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com, NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com, > NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com, nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: marshallcw80@gmail.com, MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Message-ID: <449e.1890cb5c.3b7065e2@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Barbara et al. > > Colloquial villages are not villages. > > While Harlem may have been a colloquial village, it was never an actual > village (a self-governing municipality with a mayor and a board of > trustees, > with taxing authority and local zoning control, among other things that > are > part and parcel of a village). > > > I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS > definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone. > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > Regards, > Walter Greenspan > Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY > . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State > New York State is divided into counties. > County > A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created > to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are > divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. > City > A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. > Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal > geographic areas. > Town > A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the > state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be > sub-divided into villages and hamlets. > Village > A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by > the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with > municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to > those > of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal > geographic areas. > Hamlet > A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed > at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, > which are informal geographic areas. > Postal Zone "City" and "Town" > A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established > by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and > "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community > borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, > village or > hamlet location. > Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of > non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of > places have > a different community name in their mailing address than the community > where that place is actually located. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:54:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rdpiet@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com, NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com, > NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com, NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com > Cc: marshallcw80@gmail.com > Message-ID: <31fc4.73afd84b.3b708de0@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Sone research might be appropriate > > settlers incorporated the Village of Harlem in 1658 > In 1873, the Village of Harlem was ?annexed? to the City of New York. > .......etxc etc > > NOTL Colloquial villages are not villages............ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:31:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bob Pearce <eileen070854@snet.net> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Protestant Churches near 21 Baxter St. > To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1312767110.68391.YahooMailRC@web83711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Hello Fellow Researchers, > > I have found my gg grandfather Louis GINOCCHIO in the 1859 NYC > directory living at > 21 Baxter St. Can anyone tell me which protestant churches were close by? > Louis > was Italian catholic > but it seems his wife was Irish protestant. They had two daughters by this > time. One born 1856 and another born 1858. All three children were married > by > protestant ministers. > Any advice appreciated. > > Thank > you, > Bob > Pearce > Windsor > Locks, CT > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 112 > ***************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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hi, I wonder if anyone can give me any information on the following relatives, who emigrated to NEW YORK and we know nothing about them. All I have is their records at ELLIS ISLAND. Thanks in advance for any help, MARY ROCHE b. 1885, arrived 30 APR 1903. PATRICK ROCHE b. 1883, arrived 13 APR 1905. DELIA ROCHE b. 1889, arrived 10 APR JUN 1909. MARTIN ROCHE b. 1887, arrived 5 JUN 1910. They had a brother JOHN (my Grandfather) who remained on the family farm in Ireland, and a sister KATE who married and remained in Ireland as well. They were all originally from a place called FEAGH in Co. GALWAY, IRELAND. The local significant town was BALLGLUNIN - which is where some of the movie THE QUIET MAN was filmed. Thats all I have I am afraid Regards, SEAN > From: nyc-roots-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 112 > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 01:00:33 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [NYQUEENS] When HARLEM was a village. (Gerald Tobin) > 2. When HARLEM was a village. (Soyamaven@aol.com) > 3. Re: When HARLEM was a village. (Rdpiet@aol.com) > 4. Protestant Churches near 21 Baxter St. (Bob Pearce) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 16:18:22 -0400 > From: Gerald Tobin <tobinger@frontiernet.net> > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] [NYQUEENS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <A509E7ED-3B17-4B2D-AA4E-11BB26D98659@frontiernet.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:59 PM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > > > A few years ago, I believe that it was the NYC-L list member Charles > > MARSHALL > > (marshallcw80@gmail.com) who referred to Harlem as a VILLAGE. Bob PIETERSE > > (rdpiet@aol.com) debated the accuracy of the word "village" as it pertained > > to Harlem, called Haarlem by the Dutch, located in northernmost New York > > County. > > > > Since the list administrator at NYC-L, Carol Head, no longer accepts my > > post "her list", anyone is welcome to forward this post, to that list. > > > > Early New York - When Harlem Was A Village > >> URL: http://www.oldandsold.com/articles11/new-york-history-18.shtml > > > > This article above, confirms that Harlem was in fact once a village of NYC. > > > > Barb > > Metro NYC Researcher > > Published Genealogical Author > > Member of GGG & IHR > > > > @ BAMSEWL 9/7/2011 > > > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYQUEENS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:04:18 -0400 (EDT) > From: Soyamaven@aol.com > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com, NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com, > NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com, nyc-roots@rootsweb.com > Cc: marshallcw80@gmail.com, MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Message-ID: <449e.1890cb5c.3b7065e2@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Barbara et al. > > Colloquial villages are not villages. > > While Harlem may have been a colloquial village, it was never an actual > village (a self-governing municipality with a mayor and a board of trustees, > with taxing authority and local zoning control, among other things that are > part and parcel of a village). > > > I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS > definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone. > > I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. > Regards, > Walter Greenspan > Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY > . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State > New York State is divided into counties. > County > A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created > to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are > divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. > City > A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. > Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal > geographic areas. > Town > A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the > state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be > sub-divided into villages and hamlets. > Village > A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by > the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with > municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those > of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal > geographic areas. > Hamlet > A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed > at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, > which are informal geographic areas. > Postal Zone "City" and "Town" > A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established > by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and > "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community > borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or > hamlet location. > Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of > non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have > a different community name in their mailing address than the community > where that place is actually located. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:54:57 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rdpiet@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] When HARLEM was a village. > To: nyc-roots@rootsweb.com, NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com, > NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com, NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com > Cc: marshallcw80@gmail.com > Message-ID: <31fc4.73afd84b.3b708de0@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > Sone research might be appropriate > > settlers incorporated the Village of Harlem in 1658 > In 1873, the Village of Harlem was ?annexed? to the City of New York. > .......etxc etc > > NOTL Colloquial villages are not villages............ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:31:50 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bob Pearce <eileen070854@snet.net> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Protestant Churches near 21 Baxter St. > To: NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1312767110.68391.YahooMailRC@web83711.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Hello Fellow Researchers, > > I have found my gg grandfather Louis GINOCCHIO in the 1859 NYC > directory living at > 21 Baxter St. Can anyone tell me which protestant churches were close by? Louis > was Italian catholic > but it seems his wife was Irish protestant. They had two daughters by this > time. One born 1856 and another born 1858. All three children were married by > protestant ministers. > Any advice appreciated. > > Thank > you, > Bob > Pearce > Windsor > Locks, CT > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to NYC-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 112 > *****************************************

Sone research might be appropriate settlers incorporated the Village of Harlem in 1658 In 1873, the Village of Harlem was “annexed” to the City of New York. .......etxc etc NOTL Colloquial villages are not villages............

Hello Fellow Researchers, I have found my gg grandfather Louis GINOCCHIO in the 1859 NYC directory living at 21 Baxter St. Can anyone tell me which protestant churches were close by? Louis was Italian catholic but it seems his wife was Irish protestant. They had two daughters by this time. One born 1856 and another born 1858. All three children were married by protestant ministers. Any advice appreciated. Thank you, Bob Pearce Windsor Locks, CT

Hi Barbara et al. Colloquial villages are not villages. While Harlem may have been a colloquial village, it was never an actual village (a self-governing municipality with a mayor and a board of trustees, with taxing authority and local zoning control, among other things that are part and parcel of a village). I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Great Falls, MT & Jericho, NY . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

On Aug 7, 2011, at 3:59 PM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > A few years ago, I believe that it was the NYC-L list member Charles > MARSHALL > (marshallcw80@gmail.com) who referred to Harlem as a VILLAGE. Bob PIETERSE > (rdpiet@aol.com) debated the accuracy of the word "village" as it pertained > to Harlem, called Haarlem by the Dutch, located in northernmost New York > County. > > Since the list administrator at NYC-L, Carol Head, no longer accepts my > post "her list", anyone is welcome to forward this post, to that list. > > Early New York - When Harlem Was A Village >> URL: http://www.oldandsold.com/articles11/new-york-history-18.shtml > > This article above, confirms that Harlem was in fact once a village of NYC. > > Barb > Metro NYC Researcher > Published Genealogical Author > Member of GGG & IHR > > @ BAMSEWL 9/7/2011 > >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYQUEENS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You might try for someone in the area on RAOGK Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness. Just a thought

check findagrave.com there should be someone there.... > Is there anyone who would go to Calvary Cemetery and take pictures of Head stones.I think there are five people buried there. > Timothy McMahon Section 15,Range 12,Plot D,Grave 6. Date of burial 9/19/1893. > Thank you Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This! is my site: www.citlink.net/~coral4

I did thank you. Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patches" <coral4@citlink.net> To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Calvary Cemetery > check findagrave.com there should be someone there.... > >> Is there anyone who would go to Calvary Cemetery and take pictures of >> Head stones.I think there are five people buried there. >> Timothy McMahon Section 15,Range 12,Plot D,Grave 6. Date of burial >> 9/19/1893. >> Thank you Gail >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > This! is my site: > www.citlink.net/~coral4 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you . Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary T Santanen" <longtree1@verizon.net> To: <nyc-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Calvary Cemetery > Post that info on > Findagrave.com > They have volunteers that will take a pic. Mary S. > > > > Is there anyone who would go to Calvary Cemetery and take pictures of Head > stones.I think there are five people buried there. > Timothy McMahon Section 15,Range 12,Plot D,Grave 6. Date of burial > 9/19/1893. > Thank you Gail > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYC-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >