Hi Frances, There are a couple of towns right on the border between Rhode Island and Connecticut that go over the border. I have some Dorrance ancestors who were caught like that. It might give you a clue as to the town, this one was Voluntown. In my notes on John Dorrance, b. 1671 I have written: “John and his brother George and their families settled in the extreme northeastern portion of Voluntown, CT, now the southwestern corner of Foster, RI, where they built a sawmill on the Quanduck River. They added a grist mill later. Voluntown at that time also included the present township of Sterling, CT, until May 1794. The boundary line between CT and RI was not settled until 1728 and it was then found that the part of Voluntown where the Dorrances had settled was Rhode Island property, and now lies partly in the town of Foster, RI.” Hope this helps, Mary in Greece You wrote: Yes, Diane, I have to agree with you there. Census information can be inaccurate in many ways. Not just the spelling of the names, but the place of birth, as well. I have one guy who is reported on one census as being born in Rhode Island, and another that says he was born in Connecticut. In this case, either the census taker just wrote the same thing, all the way down, because it was a large family, or the man was not at home, and just took down whatever he was told. Now I have to chase down two leads-I have to look for him in both places!
Thanks for the correction! Her first married federal census is 1920 and she is Alien. In 1930 she is a citizen again. Prior to marriage she was always a citizen on censuses. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
I would think that since they were living in NY at the time of the marriage, that the wife would take the husband's citizenship as far as what U.S. authorities were concerned. So as far as the U.S. was concerned, she became Italian. If they left the U.S. it would probably be whatever their new country of residence said. Bobbi On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor wrote: How would this work when neither party was a US citizen, but they had different nationalities? For example: My (possibly) Brazilian great-grandmother married my Italian great-grandfather in NY. Would her citizenship have changed to Italian? Whose laws would have been relevant here - the US, Italy, or Brazil? Great-grandma's place of birth is in dispute, and her citizenship being recorded differently than I would have expected is part of the reason, but I haven't been able to find an answer to this. Kathleen All > women marrying aliens became aliens. It was a law for a short time. Correction: It was not for a short time, it was always that way. It only changed in 1922. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
How would this work when neither party was a US citizen, but they had different nationalities? For example: My (possibly) Brazilian great-grandmother married my Italian great-grandfather in NY. Would her citizenship have changed to Italian? Whose laws would have been relevant here - the US, Italy, or Brazil? Great-grandma's place of birth is in dispute, and her citizenship being recorded differently than I would have expected is part of the reason, but I haven't been able to find an answer to this. Kathleen All > > women marrying aliens became aliens. It was a law for a short time. > > > Correction: It was not for a short time, it was always that way. It > only changed in 1922. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
I'm sorry, there was some type of glitch that did not let my response go through. On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Irene R Salazar via wrote: > This happened to my grandma Irene in 1920's approx. She was born NYC > married a Russian. Next census she went from citizen to alien. By > next census after that, law changed and her citizenship returned. All > women marrying aliens became aliens. It was a law for a short time. Correction: It was not for a short time, it was always that way. It only changed in 1922.
Hi, My Astoria ancestors were named Gray; They came from Ireland in about 1835. They started a bakery. The original guy, Hugh, who seems to have been pretty young when he came, married and had a number of children. They all worked in the bakery, from what I can see, but my g-g grandfather, his son, broke away from them for some reason and moved to Manhattan, and eventually, to the Bronx. My direct descendant, Hugh, married a woman named Nellie Bannon. I do not know the surnames of the families that the girls married into, or the surnames of the boys' wives. My g-grandmother told tales of being in Astoria when it was farm country. She remembers being chased by geese. It seems there was some kind of rift between her father and her grandparents, and she never felt welcomed by them. She said that when she was a small girl, the Brooklyn bridge opened and they were able to cross to "America". Hahahaha! I don't know what the rift might have been, but when I think about it, it must have been something significant to make them leave a family business and go to live on the Bowery. Her father may have suffered from some kind of mental illness, and may have been a tippler. I'm going to see my mom soon and will take a deep look into her treasure trove of documents, mass cards, cemetery deeds, etc., and hope to know more. I haven't traced that branch of the family yet, because I have a cousin who told me he has done it. Unfortunately, I have been so busy, as my husband recently bought a business, and I haven't gotten to see what he has yet. Judging from what I have uncovered about other branches of the family, I am sure there will be some surprises there. I would be happy to know what names you have in Astoria, as well as locations, and could let you know if we wind up having anything in common. You never know! ~Frances Researching:Ireland/New York City: Carey, Gray, Glynn/Glinn, Bannon Lithuania/New York City: Buivydas, Mockevicius Scotland/Ireland/Rhode Island/Connecticut/New York City: Drysdale, Duffy, ChapmanMore to come! > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 20:01:47 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] ASTORIA? > From: [email protected] > > > What are your Astoria SURNAMES? > > > From: Frances Brunner > [email protected], > > > > Joyce:Thanks for that info! I have a branch that lived in Astoria, which I > haven't been pursuing yet, because it seems I have a cousin who has done so > already. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Irene R Salazar via wrote: > This happened to my grandma Irene in 1920's approx. She was born NYC > married a Russian. Next census she went from citizen to alien. By > next census after that, law changed and her citizenship returned. All > women marrying aliens became aliens. It was a law for a short time. > > On April 22, 2015, at 10:18 PM, loreenwells via wrote: > > A recent story on Oregon history told of of this kind of working in > reverse - US born women who lost their citizenship because of marriage > to foreign born men during that era. Wish I could remember details. > Maybe wives of Japanese and German men during WWII? > Loreen > ---- On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 23:10:10 -0700 Mary Kyritsis > via<[email protected]> wrote ---- > Just for the record, my great-great-grandmother, Emilia Carolina > Puche/Puig took out citizenship independently of her husband, > naturalized in the Common Pleas Court of NYC on 31 July 1858 (Vol. > 206, Record 117), at which time they were living at 73 Amity Street, > NYC. Her witness was Bernabe del Pozo, living on 35th Street, NYC. > Apropos, this was sent in to the NYC list some years ago: "Only women > who had property, in their own names in those days could apply for > citizenship, until 1922 when the law was changed, and any woman could > apply then if she wanted to become a citizen. Until women won the > right to vote they were still considered husband's property...in many > cases/states." > > As far as her husband was concerned (Andres Cassard), “during the > Civil War naturalization was granted to those immigrants who enlisted > in the Union Army. That is, Union veterans who received an honorable > discharge were granted accelerated naturalization, i.e. the waiting > time was reduced to one year residency under the Act of July 1862, but > they were still required to file a petition in civil court, have a > witness, and be naturalized by a judge. There was a separate form for > these naturalizations that stated the term of service of the veteran > and the name of his regiment. Many soldiers filed petitions and were > naturalized the same day.” NYC mailing list April 2003 from Russell K. > Brown. > > His wife had petitioned for naturalization on her own in 1858 and > their son William J. in 1885, but there are no papers for Andres. > However, as Andres was listed as a witness on his son's application, > which he had to be a citizen to do, he must have availed himself of > the 1862 act. At that time he was living at 115 W. 45th Street, > merchant. Both he and his son are given as US citizens on the 1870 > census. > > Mary in Greece > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Sometimes you can find legal (wedding --Italian and more) information which leads to Church 4/22/2015 6:04 PM, VLB via wrote: > There are several useful sources on Catholic churches in Manhattan and/or Brooklyn up thru the Civil War. One is Jay Dolan's invaluable book, "The Immigrant Church: New York's Irish and German Catholics, 1815-1865". Dolan has several excellent maps of the churches as they were founded and a list of all the churches from the first, St Peter's in 1785, thru the Civil War. There is a lot of good info in this book which you can get from the library or buy used beginning at one penny on Amazon. > Another good source is the recent "Finding Your Irish Ancestors in New York City" by Joseph Buggy. He lists all the churches, open and close, in New York and Brooklyn and what parish records they have--or where they are if the parish is closed. A lot of this you can find online but his book is very useful. You can get it thru the library or buy it from Amazon or Joe himself on his most interesting website http://www.townlandoforigin.com > Good luck. Virginia > > > From: Gary Knecht via <[email protected]> > Subject: [NY-IRISH] Catholic Churches in 1840s-50s Manhattan > > Can anyone help me identify Irish Catholic congregations in Manhattan during the 1840s, 1850s, and 1860s? I am seeking records for Catholic two marriages and over a dozen baptisms. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
This happened to my grandma Irene in 1920's approx. She was born NYC married a Russian. Next census she went from citizen to alien. By next census after that, law changed and her citizenship returned. All women marrying aliens became aliens. It was a law for a short time. On April 22, 2015, at 10:18 PM, loreenwells via <[email protected]> wrote: A recent story on Oregon history told of of this kind of working in reverse - US born women who lost their citizenship because of marriage to foreign born men during that era. Wish I could remember details. Maybe wives of Japanese and German men during WWII? Loreen ---- On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 23:10:10 -0700 Mary Kyritsis via<[email protected]> wrote ---- Just for the record, my great-great-grandmother, Emilia Carolina Puche/Puig took out citizenship independently of her husband, naturalized in the Common Pleas Court of NYC on 31 July 1858 (Vol. 206, Record 117), at which time they were living at 73 Amity Street, NYC. Her witness was Bernabe del Pozo, living on 35th Street, NYC. Apropos, this was sent in to the NYC list some years ago: "Only women who had property, in their own names in those days could apply for citizenship, until 1922 when the law was changed, and any woman could apply then if she wanted to become a citizen. Until women won the right to vote they were still considered husband's property...in many cases/states." As far as her husband was concerned (Andres Cassard), “during the Civil War naturalization was granted to those immigrants who enlisted in the Union Army. That is, Union veterans who received an honorable discharge were granted accelerated naturalization, i.e. the waiting time was reduced to one year residency under the Act of July 1862, but they were still required to file a petition in civil court, have a witness, and be naturalized by a judge. There was a separate form for these naturalizations that stated the term of service of the veteran and the name of his regiment. Many soldiers filed petitions and were naturalized the same day.” NYC mailing list April 2003 from Russell K. Brown. His wife had petitioned for naturalization on her own in 1858 and their son William J. in 1885, but there are no papers for Andres. However, as Andres was listed as a witness on his son's application, which he had to be a citizen to do, he must have availed himself of the 1862 act. At that time he was living at 115 W. 45th Street, merchant. Both he and his son are given as US citizens on the 1870 census. Mary in Greece ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
There are several useful sources on Catholic churches in Manhattan and/or Brooklyn up thru the Civil War. One is Jay Dolan's invaluable book, "The Immigrant Church: New York's Irish and German Catholics, 1815-1865". Dolan has several excellent maps of the churches as they were founded and a list of all the churches from the first, St Peter's in 1785, thru the Civil War. There is a lot of good info in this book which you can get from the library or buy used beginning at one penny on Amazon. Another good source is the recent "Finding Your Irish Ancestors in New York City" by Joseph Buggy. He lists all the churches, open and close, in New York and Brooklyn and what parish records they have--or where they are if the parish is closed. A lot of this you can find online but his book is very useful. You can get it thru the library or buy it from Amazon or Joe himself on his most interesting website http://www.townlandoforigin.com Good luck. Virginia From: Gary Knecht via <[email protected]> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Catholic Churches in 1840s-50s Manhattan Can anyone help me identify Irish Catholic congregations in Manhattan during the 1840s, 1850s, and 1860s? I am seeking records for Catholic two marriages and over a dozen baptisms.
What are your Astoria SURNAMES? From: Frances Brunner [email protected], Joyce:Thanks for that info! I have a branch that lived in Astoria, which I haven't been pursuing yet, because it seems I have a cousin who has done so already.
NARA also guided me to my Irish g-grandfather's NATZ by sending me index printouts of each potential one. Due to the numbers of "Great Hunger" era immigrants, new, temporary courts were authorized specifically to process them quickly [Common Pleas Court is one] and usually the Declaration of Intentions step was overlooked. As minimal as these NATZ records are, they provide your ancestor's handwriting. -----Original Message----- From: Frances Brunner [email protected] That's happy news for me, Joyce! Can you tell me what year he gained his naturalization?Thanks,Frances From: [email protected] I had problems figuring out which naturalization was my grandfather. I sent the numbers of the files I had found along with all the names associated with him (wife's name, kids names) to the archivist at NARA explaining that I did not know which file # was my GF
A recent story on Oregon history told of of this kind of working in reverse - US born women who lost their citizenship because of marriage to foreign born men during that era. Wish I could remember details. Maybe wives of Japanese and German men during WWII? Loreen ---- On Tue, 21 Apr 2015 23:10:10 -0700 Mary Kyritsis via<[email protected]> wrote ---- Just for the record, my great-great-grandmother, Emilia Carolina Puche/Puig took out citizenship independently of her husband, naturalized in the Common Pleas Court of NYC on 31 July 1858 (Vol. 206, Record 117), at which time they were living at 73 Amity Street, NYC. Her witness was Bernabe del Pozo, living on 35th Street, NYC. Apropos, this was sent in to the NYC list some years ago: "Only women who had property, in their own names in those days could apply for citizenship, until 1922 when the law was changed, and any woman could apply then if she wanted to become a citizen. Until women won the right to vote they were still considered husband's property...in many cases/states." As far as her husband was concerned (Andres Cassard), “during the Civil War naturalization was granted to those immigrants who enlisted in the Union Army. That is, Union veterans who received an honorable discharge were granted accelerated naturalization, i.e. the waiting time was reduced to one year residency under the Act of July 1862, but they were still required to file a petition in civil court, have a witness, and be naturalized by a judge. There was a separate form for these naturalizations that stated the term of service of the veteran and the name of his regiment. Many soldiers filed petitions and were naturalized the same day.” NYC mailing list April 2003 from Russell K. Brown. His wife had petitioned for naturalization on her own in 1858 and their son William J. in 1885, but there are no papers for Andres. However, as Andres was listed as a witness on his son's application, which he had to be a citizen to do, he must have availed himself of the 1862 act. At that time he was living at 115 W. 45th Street, merchant. Both he and his son are given as US citizens on the 1870 census. Mary in Greece ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Joyce:Thanks for that info! I have a branch that lived in Astoria, which I haven't been pursuing yet, because it seems I have a cousin who has done so already. I haven't had the time to get his info yet, so I don't know what he has, or how far back he has gone. It also looks like the whole family, whether from Queens or not, have been buried in Calvary, and I will use that site you sent! I did subscribe to the Irish list, but I haven't gotten any postings from them. Can you send me the email address I should use, so I can post and send an introduction? Thanks,Frances From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:52:59 -0400 Subject: Fwd: [NYQUEENS] Over 400 more Calvary Cemetery gravestone pictures added To: [email protected] FYI I am not sure if you are on this list...I am on many NYC area lists as you never know where you will find info ----wasn't sure who you were looking for but this site is worth perusing. Pat Connors has a decent Irish website. Joyce From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Sent: 4/21/2015 2:59:16 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time Subj: [NYQUEENS] Over 400 more Calvary Cemetery gravestone pictures added I have just added over 400 more pictures of tombstones mentioning Irish names online to the Queens County website at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyqueen2/ This is a second batch of photos taken by Rosemary Mulcahy who sent me a flash drive with over 1,000 photos. I now have over 750 of them online and indexed and hope to get the last 300 online soon. After I do that, I have also a bunch of photos sent by others that I are waiting to get online. If you sent me pictures, please do not think I forgot yours. I will get to them sometime this summer. Some of the tombstones have the place in Ireland where they were born which is what most of us are looking for. Also, while each tombstone has an Irish surname there are other names that are not Irish on many of the tombstones. There are now three indexes for these pictures. To find them, first go to the Main Queens County website page at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nyqueen2/ Roll your mouse over the headings at the top of the page (not the Ancestry advertisement). When you have the mouse over Genealogy, you will see the names of a number of sections of the website. Click on the one that says, Cemeteries. The Cemetery Page gives you lots of info on the cemeteries located in Queens County, Towards the bottom of the page, you will find a section called, Transcribed Records Online. Click on, 'Calvary Cemetery, Woodside Queens'. That takes you to the first index of the tombstone pictures online. Below the links to those names are two sections dedicated to more pictures with their own indexes: Calvary2 and Calvary3 If you have any questions, please feel free to email me off the list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
That's happy news for me, Joyce! Can you tell me what year he gained his naturalization?Thanks,Frances From: [email protected] Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:49:45 -0400 Subject: Fwd: [NYC-ROOTS] Naturalization records-Local Court--TRY NARA To: [email protected] I had problems figuring out which naturalization was my grandfather. I sent the numbers of the files I had found along with all the names associated with him (wife's name, kids names) to the archivist at NARA explaining that I did not know which file # was my GF She looked it up, figured out which one was his. THEN I ordered it online at NARA (under the shop online se tion ) It was only $20 but I got his entire application which was several pages long. Many times you can find out exactly where ppl were born, DOB's for wife and kids etc etc so these docs are very much worth getting. When you go to order the record, have all your info ready to type in to order as the site times out a bit quickly so you need to have all your info handy before you place your order http://www.archives.gov/ hope this helps Joyce From: [email protected] Reply-to: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 4/21/2015 12:15:24 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time Subj: [NYC-ROOTS] Naturalization records-Local Court I found two guys either of whom could be the great-great-great grandfather I am looking for, among the Naturalization records from the Court of Common Pleas in New York. One is more likely than the other to be my man, because he lived in the neighborhood where he and his wife seem to have lived since coming to New York. This having been said, you could walk between the two addresses in ten or fifteen minutes. They're not so far apart. I have three questions:One, what information would I get from the file, assuming that the petition was filed in the local court, and not Federal District Court? Second, can I get the complete file on a FHL film, or do I have to send it to the relevant court/jurisdiction? Third, is it even worthwhile to research the wife, as I believe she would have received derivative citizenship when her husband naturalized? Thanks,Frances ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I believe there is very little information on naturalizations done 1905 & before. After that you can find the long form and many of them are online for the NY City area. Diane Jacobs -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frances Brunner via Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Naturalization I know that people had to file an intention of citizenship, and then sign the citizenship oath. My question is whether there is a file somewhere that contains more information, such as place of origin, date of birth, names of parents or family members, etc. I have found two guys, either of whom could be my g-g-g grandfather, but if I could find out more information, I could solve a really big puzzle. I have seen the intention pages and the oaths signed by them, and wondering if one of these documents has a file attached, that I could get from somewhere. I would have to imagine that a file was created, but I don't know if they were kept. Thanks,Frances ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I know that people had to file an intention of citizenship, and then sign the citizenship oath. My question is whether there is a file somewhere that contains more information, such as place of origin, date of birth, names of parents or family members, etc. I have found two guys, either of whom could be my g-g-g grandfather, but if I could find out more information, I could solve a really big puzzle. I have seen the intention pages and the oaths signed by them, and wondering if one of these documents has a file attached, that I could get from somewhere. I would have to imagine that a file was created, but I don't know if they were kept. Thanks,Frances
Yes, Diane, I have to agree with you there. Census information can be inaccurate in many ways. Not just the spelling of the names, but the place of birth, as well. I have one guy who is reported on one census as being born in Rhode Island, and another that says he was born in Connecticut. In this case, either the census taker just wrote the same thing, all the way down, because it was a large family, or the man was not at home, and just took down whatever he was told. Now I have to chase down two leads-I have to look for him in both places! > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 06:54:05 -0400 > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Wives being naturalized > From: [email protected] > > Remember one thing - Census info was given by the person or anothr peron > to the census taker, no documentation was necessary. I have a 1920 US > Census where my grandfather says he was b.NY. He actually emigrated in > 1888 and file for naturalization in 1929. > > Diane Jacobs > > > Just for the record, my great-great-grandmother, Emilia Carolina Puche/Puig > took out citizenship independently of her husband, naturalized in the Common > Pleas Court of NYC on 31 July 1858 (Vol. 206, Record 117), at which time > they were living at 73 Amity Street, NYC. Her witness was Bernabe del Pozo, > living on 35th Street, NYC. Apropos, this was sent in to the NYC list some > years ago: "Only women who had property, in their own names in those days > could apply for citizenship, until 1922 when the law was changed, and any > woman could apply then if she wanted to become a citizen. Until women won > the right to vote they were still considered husband's property...in many > cases/states." > > As far as her husband was concerned (Andres Cassard), "during the Civil War > naturalization was granted to those immigrants who enlisted in the Union > Army. That is, Union veterans who received an honorable discharge were > granted accelerated naturalization, i.e. the waiting time was reduced to one > year residency under the Act of July 1862, but they were still required to > file a petition in civil court, have a witness, and be naturalized by a > judge. There was a separate form for these naturalizations that stated the > term of service of the veteran and the name of his regiment. Many soldiers > filed petitions and were naturalized the same day." NYC mailing list April > 2003 from Russell K. Brown. > > His wife had petitioned for naturalization on her own in 1858 and their son > William J. in 1885, but there are no papers for Andres. However, as Andres > was listed as a witness on his son's application, which he had to be a > citizen to do, he must have availed himself of the 1862 act. At that time > he was living at 115 W. 45th Street, merchant. Both he and his son are > given as US citizens on the 1870 census. > > Mary in Greece > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just for the record, my great-great-grandmother, Emilia Carolina Puche/Puig took out citizenship independently of her husband, naturalized in the Common Pleas Court of NYC on 31 July 1858 (Vol. 206, Record 117), at which time they were living at 73 Amity Street, NYC. Her witness was Bernabe del Pozo, living on 35th Street, NYC. Apropos, this was sent in to the NYC list some years ago: "Only women who had property, in their own names in those days could apply for citizenship, until 1922 when the law was changed, and any woman could apply then if she wanted to become a citizen. Until women won the right to vote they were still considered husband's property...in many cases/states." As far as her husband was concerned (Andres Cassard), “during the Civil War naturalization was granted to those immigrants who enlisted in the Union Army. That is, Union veterans who received an honorable discharge were granted accelerated naturalization, i.e. the waiting time was reduced to one year residency under the Act of July 1862, but they were still required to file a petition in civil court, have a witness, and be naturalized by a judge. There was a separate form for these naturalizations that stated the term of service of the veteran and the name of his regiment. Many soldiers filed petitions and were naturalized the same day.” NYC mailing list April 2003 from Russell K. Brown. His wife had petitioned for naturalization on her own in 1858 and their son William J. in 1885, but there are no papers for Andres. However, as Andres was listed as a witness on his son's application, which he had to be a citizen to do, he must have availed himself of the 1862 act. At that time he was living at 115 W. 45th Street, merchant. Both he and his son are given as US citizens on the 1870 census. Mary in Greece
Remember one thing - Census info was given by the person or anothr peron to the census taker, no documentation was necessary. I have a 1920 US Census where my grandfather says he was b.NY. He actually emigrated in 1888 and file for naturalization in 1929. Diane Jacobs Just for the record, my great-great-grandmother, Emilia Carolina Puche/Puig took out citizenship independently of her husband, naturalized in the Common Pleas Court of NYC on 31 July 1858 (Vol. 206, Record 117), at which time they were living at 73 Amity Street, NYC. Her witness was Bernabe del Pozo, living on 35th Street, NYC. Apropos, this was sent in to the NYC list some years ago: "Only women who had property, in their own names in those days could apply for citizenship, until 1922 when the law was changed, and any woman could apply then if she wanted to become a citizen. Until women won the right to vote they were still considered husband's property...in many cases/states." As far as her husband was concerned (Andres Cassard), "during the Civil War naturalization was granted to those immigrants who enlisted in the Union Army. That is, Union veterans who received an honorable discharge were granted accelerated naturalization, i.e. the waiting time was reduced to one year residency under the Act of July 1862, but they were still required to file a petition in civil court, have a witness, and be naturalized by a judge. There was a separate form for these naturalizations that stated the term of service of the veteran and the name of his regiment. Many soldiers filed petitions and were naturalized the same day." NYC mailing list April 2003 from Russell K. Brown. His wife had petitioned for naturalization on her own in 1858 and their son William J. in 1885, but there are no papers for Andres. However, as Andres was listed as a witness on his son's application, which he had to be a citizen to do, he must have availed himself of the 1862 act. At that time he was living at 115 W. 45th Street, merchant. Both he and his son are given as US citizens on the 1870 census. Mary in Greece ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message