You posted off topic messages Mensa What part of that do you not understand as you do not ike off topic messags You included the DNA mailing list because you were trying to make a point. Tell admin there is no need for venting to the world when you do not like something You can hardly slam me because I always take into consideration the source a message Keep doing whatever you feel like doing I care less but do not ever think you can slam me You would only be slaming me in your mid Bye -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]>; Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 11:34 am Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX I can tell you're the type who runs into traffic without looking- and a problem child. If you can't see why I included that email you never will. If you don't like my post don't read them. If you keep replying to my emails I'll keep slamming you back. Life is full of choices and you are the one making these choices today. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/6/15, Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2015, 11:16 You are mixing things up a bit You are posting to the NYC Roots board and referencing Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List In one of your messages you referred to off topic messages Take it up with admin , people care less what you object to, I know I do And all your message were off-topic by the way, to include your definition of a curse word, freedom of speech, and suggesting people should un subscribe.. etc etc You are doing something you object to. Clear as mud and one hell of a dichotomy Thanks, I needed a good laugh -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Cc: NYC-ROOTS-admin <[email protected]>; villandra <[email protected]>; \- tiggernut24\ <- [email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 10:35 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX Dora Smith of Austin, TX: Note: please refer to the email at the bottom of this page. >From just one Rootsweb list administrator I see that you have a prior run-ins with Rootsweb that led them to put you on their 'watch list' for insulting list members. This, on top of your false, offensive, inflammatory and damaging remarks you made regarding my character- suggesting I had mental illness, has compelled me to bring your attacks to Ancestry's corporate offices. Secondly, the NYC-Roots administrator must take responsibility for their lack of leadership in failing to adequately manage this list. Never once did they send out frequent or infrequent reminders to subscribers to refrain from off-topic subjects. Ancestry corporate offices must revisit the policy on how their list administrators are trained and how well or ill they manage their lists. The administrator cultivates an atmosphere of intimidation, cyber bullying and hostility when they sit back idly and allow this type of environment to cultivate. It is no wonder why the number of users to this list has dropped sharply the past few years. People just don't want to become targets of these cyber bullies so they use the list less and rely on other means to get their information. Ancestry's corporate office needs to address the serious problem brought on by Dora Smith and others here or allow the courts to address them and I will be the first one to go in that direction. They will receive a paper letter from me in three days. If anyone else has been offended or unfairly attacked in any manner by Smith or ANY Rootsweb list subscribers, please feel free to email me at [email protected] David Stroebel ----------- From: "Jim Bullock" <[email protected]> Subject: [DNA] Dora Smith--Off Topic Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:18:50 -0700 Please avoid discussions on the list about individual subscribers. When messages are off topic, offensive, or otherwise objectionable; let me know at my administrator's address: [email protected] In this case, Dora's addresses have been on moderated status for some time, meaning that I have to review them before posting them to the list. This was done because of insults to list members, objectionable comments about a church, and other off-topic messages. Any recent messages you've seen have been reviewed by me and approved for posting. Jim Bullock Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Robert Pieterse [email protected] Robert Pieterse [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Cc: NYC-ROOTS-admin <[email protected]>; villandra <[email protected]>; \- tiggernut24\ <- [email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 10:35 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX Dora Smith of Austin, TX: Note: please refer to the email at the bottom of this page. >From just one Rootsweb list administrator I see that you have a prior run-ins with Rootsweb that led them to put you on their 'watch list' for insulting list members. This, on top of your false, offensive, inflammatory and damaging remarks you made regarding my character- suggesting I had mental illness, has compelled me to bring your attacks to Ancestry's corporate offices. Secondly, the NYC-Roots administrator must take responsibility for their lack of leadership in failing to adequately manage this list. Never once did they send out frequent or infrequent reminders to subscribers to refrain from off-topic subjects. Ancestry corporate offices must revisit the policy on how their list administrators are trained and how well or ill they manage their lists. The administrator cultivates an atmosphere of intimidation, cyber bullying and hostility when they sit back idly and allow this type of environment to cultivate. It is no wonder why the number of users to this list has dropped sharply the past few years. People just don't want to become targets of these cyber bullies so they use the list less and rely on other means to get their information. Ancestry's corporate office needs to address the serious problem brought on by Dora Smith and others here or allow the courts to address them and I will be the first one to go in that direction. They will receive a paper letter from me in three days. If anyone else has been offended or unfairly attacked in any manner by Smith or ANY Rootsweb list subscribers, please feel free to email me at [email protected] David Stroebel ----------- From: "Jim Bullock" <[email protected]> Subject: [DNA] Dora Smith--Off Topic Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:18:50 -0700 Please avoid discussions on the list about individual subscribers. When messages are off topic, offensive, or otherwise objectionable; let me know at my administrator's address: [email protected] In this case, Dora's addresses have been on moderated status for some time, meaning that I have to review them before posting them to the list. This was done because of insults to list members, objectionable comments about a church, and other off-topic messages. Any recent messages you've seen have been reviewed by me and approved for posting. Jim Bullock Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ditto, enough already!  Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: Kathleen Estes via <[email protected]> Date:06/11/2015 10:10 AM (GMT-07:00) To: [email protected] Cc: Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] please stop arguing ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You are mixing things up a bit You are posting to the NYC Roots board and referencing Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List In one of your messages you referred to off topic messages Take it up with admin , people care less what you object to, I know I do And all your message were off-topic by the way, to include your definition of a curse word, freedom of speech, and suggesting people should un subscribe.. etc etc You are doing something you object to. Clear as mud and one hell of a dichotomy Thanks, I needed a good laugh -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Cc: NYC-ROOTS-admin <[email protected]>; villandra <[email protected]>; \- tiggernut24\ <- [email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 10:35 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX Dora Smith of Austin, TX: Note: please refer to the email at the bottom of this page. >From just one Rootsweb list administrator I see that you have a prior run-ins with Rootsweb that led them to put you on their 'watch list' for insulting list members. This, on top of your false, offensive, inflammatory and damaging remarks you made regarding my character- suggesting I had mental illness, has compelled me to bring your attacks to Ancestry's corporate offices. Secondly, the NYC-Roots administrator must take responsibility for their lack of leadership in failing to adequately manage this list. Never once did they send out frequent or infrequent reminders to subscribers to refrain from off-topic subjects. Ancestry corporate offices must revisit the policy on how their list administrators are trained and how well or ill they manage their lists. The administrator cultivates an atmosphere of intimidation, cyber bullying and hostility when they sit back idly and allow this type of environment to cultivate. It is no wonder why the number of users to this list has dropped sharply the past few years. People just don't want to become targets of these cyber bullies so they use the list less and rely on other means to get their information. Ancestry's corporate office needs to address the serious problem brought on by Dora Smith and others here or allow the courts to address them and I will be the first one to go in that direction. They will receive a paper letter from me in three days. If anyone else has been offended or unfairly attacked in any manner by Smith or ANY Rootsweb list subscribers, please feel free to email me at [email protected] David Stroebel ----------- From: "Jim Bullock" <[email protected]> Subject: [DNA] Dora Smith--Off Topic Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:18:50 -0700 Please avoid discussions on the list about individual subscribers. When messages are off topic, offensive, or otherwise objectionable; let me know at my administrator's address: [email protected] In this case, Dora's addresses have been on moderated status for some time, meaning that I have to review them before posting them to the list. This was done because of insults to list members, objectionable comments about a church, and other off-topic messages. Any recent messages you've seen have been reviewed by me and approved for posting. Jim Bullock Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Robert Pieterse [email protected] Robert Pieterse [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Cc: NYC-ROOTS-admin <[email protected]>; villandra <[email protected]>; \- tiggernut24\ <- [email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 10:35 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX Dora Smith of Austin, TX: Note: please refer to the email at the bottom of this page. >From just one Rootsweb list administrator I see that you have a prior run-ins with Rootsweb that led them to put you on their 'watch list' for insulting list members. This, on top of your false, offensive, inflammatory and damaging remarks you made regarding my character- suggesting I had mental illness, has compelled me to bring your attacks to Ancestry's corporate offices. Secondly, the NYC-Roots administrator must take responsibility for their lack of leadership in failing to adequately manage this list. Never once did they send out frequent or infrequent reminders to subscribers to refrain from off-topic subjects. Ancestry corporate offices must revisit the policy on how their list administrators are trained and how well or ill they manage their lists. The administrator cultivates an atmosphere of intimidation, cyber bullying and hostility when they sit back idly and allow this type of environment to cultivate. It is no wonder why the number of users to this list has dropped sharply the past few years. People just don't want to become targets of these cyber bullies so they use the list less and rely on other means to get their information. Ancestry's corporate office needs to address the serious problem brought on by Dora Smith and others here or allow the courts to address them and I will be the first one to go in that direction. They will receive a paper letter from me in three days. If anyone else has been offended or unfairly attacked in any manner by Smith or ANY Rootsweb list subscribers, please feel free to email me at [email protected] David Stroebel ----------- From: "Jim Bullock" <[email protected]> Subject: [DNA] Dora Smith--Off Topic Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:18:50 -0700 Please avoid discussions on the list about individual subscribers. When messages are off topic, offensive, or otherwise objectionable; let me know at my administrator's address: [email protected] In this case, Dora's addresses have been on moderated status for some time, meaning that I have to review them before posting them to the list. This was done because of insults to list members, objectionable comments about a church, and other off-topic messages. Any recent messages you've seen have been reviewed by me and approved for posting. Jim Bullock Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree enough is enough Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 11, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Kathleen Estes via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can tell you're the type who runs into traffic without looking- and a problem child. If you can't see why I included that email you never will. If you don't like my post don't read them. If you keep replying to my emails I'll keep slamming you back. Life is full of choices and you are the one making these choices today. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/6/15, Robert Pieterse <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2015, 11:16 You  are  mixing  things  up  a  bit    You  are  posting  to  the  NYC  Roots  board  and  referencing  Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List   In  one  of  your  messages  you  referred  to off  topic  messages     Take  it  up  with admin  ,  people  care  less  what  you  object    to,  I  know  I  do   And  all  your  message  were  off-topic  by  the  way,  to  include your definition  of  a  curse  word,   freedom  of  speech,  and  suggesting  people  should  un subscribe..  etc etc       You are   doing  something you  object  to.  Clear  as  mud  and  one  hell  of  a dichotomy    Thanks,  I needed  a good  laugh            -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Cc: NYC-ROOTS-admin <[email protected]>; villandra <[email protected]>; \- tiggernut24\ <- [email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 10:35 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX Dora Smith of Austin, TX: Note: please refer to the email at the bottom of this page. >From just one Rootsweb list administrator I see that you have a prior run-ins with Rootsweb that led them to put you on their 'watch list' for insulting list members. This, on top of your false, offensive, inflammatory and damaging remarks you made regarding my character- suggesting I had mental illness, has compelled me to bring your attacks to Ancestry's corporate offices. Secondly, the NYC-Roots administrator must take responsibility for their lack of leadership in failing to adequately manage this list. Never once did they send out frequent or infrequent reminders to subscribers to refrain from off-topic subjects. Ancestry corporate offices must revisit the policy on how their list administrators are trained and how well or ill they manage their lists. The administrator cultivates an atmosphere of intimidation, cyber bullying and hostility when they sit back idly and allow this type of environment to cultivate. It is no wonder why the number of users to this list has dropped sharply the past few years. People just don't want to become targets of these cyber bullies so they use the list less and rely on other means to get their information. Ancestry's corporate office needs to address the serious problem brought on by Dora Smith and others here or allow the courts to address them and I will be the first one to go in that direction. They will receive a paper letter from me in three days. If anyone else has been offended or unfairly attacked in any manner by Smith or ANY Rootsweb list subscribers, please feel free to email me at [email protected] David Stroebel ----------- From: "Jim Bullock" <[email protected]> Subject: [DNA] Dora Smith--Off Topic Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:18:50 -0700 Please avoid discussions on the list about individual subscribers. When messages are off topic, offensive, or otherwise objectionable; let me know at my administrator's address: [email protected] In this case, Dora's addresses have been on moderated status for some time, meaning that I have to review them before posting them to the list. This was done because of insults to list members, objectionable comments about a church, and other off-topic messages. Any recent messages you've seen have been reviewed by me and approved for posting. Jim Bullock Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   Robert Pieterse [email protected]   Robert Pieterse [email protected]     -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Cc: NYC-ROOTS-admin <[email protected]>; villandra <[email protected]>; \- tiggernut24\ <- [email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jun 11, 2015 10:35 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Corporate complaint against repeat offender Dora Smith of Austin, TX Dora Smith of Austin, TX: Note: please refer to the email at the bottom of this page. >From just one Rootsweb list administrator I see that you have a prior run-ins with Rootsweb that led them to put you on their 'watch list' for insulting list members. This, on top of your false, offensive, inflammatory and damaging remarks you made regarding my character- suggesting I had mental illness, has compelled me to bring your attacks to Ancestry's corporate offices. Secondly, the NYC-Roots administrator must take responsibility for their lack of leadership in failing to adequately manage this list. Never once did they send out frequent or infrequent reminders to subscribers to refrain from off-topic subjects. Ancestry corporate offices must revisit the policy on how their list administrators are trained and how well or ill they manage their lists. The administrator cultivates an atmosphere of intimidation, cyber bullying and hostility when they sit back idly and allow this type of environment to cultivate. It is no wonder why the number of users to this list has dropped sharply the past few years. People just don't want to become targets of these cyber bullies so they use the list less and rely on other means to get their information. Ancestry's corporate office needs to address the serious problem brought on by Dora Smith and others here or allow the courts to address them and I will be the first one to go in that direction. They will receive a paper letter from me in three days. If anyone else has been offended or unfairly attacked in any manner by Smith or ANY Rootsweb list subscribers, please feel free to email me at [email protected] David Stroebel ----------- From: "Jim Bullock" <[email protected]> Subject: [DNA] Dora Smith--Off Topic Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:18:50 -0700 Please avoid discussions on the list about individual subscribers. When messages are off topic, offensive, or otherwise objectionable; let me know at my administrator's address: [email protected] In this case, Dora's addresses have been on moderated status for some time, meaning that I have to review them before posting them to the list. This was done because of insults to list members, objectionable comments about a church, and other off-topic messages. Any recent messages you've seen have been reviewed by me and approved for posting. Jim Bullock Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dora Smith of Austin, TX: Note: please refer to the email at the bottom of this page. >From just one Rootsweb list administrator I see that you have a prior run-ins with Rootsweb that led them to put you on their 'watch list' for insulting list members. This, on top of your false, offensive, inflammatory and damaging remarks you made regarding my character- suggesting I had mental illness, has compelled me to bring your attacks to Ancestry's corporate offices. Secondly, the NYC-Roots administrator must take responsibility for their lack of leadership in failing to adequately manage this list. Never once did they send out frequent or infrequent reminders to subscribers to refrain from off-topic subjects. Ancestry corporate offices must revisit the policy on how their list administrators are trained and how well or ill they manage their lists. The administrator cultivates an atmosphere of intimidation, cyber bullying and hostility when they sit back idly and allow this type of environment to cultivate. It is no wonder why the number of users to this list has dropped sharply the past few years. People just don't want to become targets of these cyber bullies so they use the list less and rely on other means to get their information. Ancestry's corporate office needs to address the serious problem brought on by Dora Smith and others here or allow the courts to address them and I will be the first one to go in that direction. They will receive a paper letter from me in three days. If anyone else has been offended or unfairly attacked in any manner by Smith or ANY Rootsweb list subscribers, please feel free to email me at [email protected] David Stroebel ----------- From: "Jim Bullock" <[email protected]> Subject: [DNA] Dora Smith--Off Topic Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 14:18:50 -0700 Please avoid discussions on the list about individual subscribers. When messages are off topic, offensive, or otherwise objectionable; let me know at my administrator's address: [email protected] In this case, Dora's addresses have been on moderated status for some time, meaning that I have to review them before posting them to the list. This was done because of insults to list members, objectionable comments about a church, and other off-topic messages. Any recent messages you've seen have been reviewed by me and approved for posting. Jim Bullock Administrator, Genealogy-DNA Mail List

Agree. Hope you will stay. Virginia From: Diane Jacobs via <[email protected]> To: 'Robert Leonard' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 I have been on this list for over ten years and very rarely have seen rude people.  No need to remove yourself if there is a bad apple in the barrel. Diane    -----Original Message-----   From: Robert Leonard via <[email protected]>   To: nyc-roots <[email protected]>; nyc-roots <[email protected]>   Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 2:36 pm   Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 Is it necessary to curse on this List? If so, I want to be taken off! Dr. Rober t Leonard

Begging the list owner's pardon; I thought "she" posted this! Dora -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 PM To: metronycancestry ; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC List Admin = Carol Why don't you speak directly to me [email protected]? Apparently you are uninformed as to if "God damn" is a curse word. According to Dictionary.com it is not- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/goddamn If you don't like me objecting to off-topic subject then please unsubscribe yourself- including Dr. Robert Leonard- Is that a PHD doctor Leonard? Here is some free advice for those who want to over control/take control of this board from Carol the administrator: Don't try it. You sound silly. Your pal, Dave -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 10/6/15, metronycancestry via <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC List Admin = Carol To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2015, 15:27 It is time for the List Admin speak with David Stroebel before another of his posts gets out of hand. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leonard Is it necessary to curse on this List? If so, I want to be taken off! Dr. Robert Leonard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From:[email protected] How inappropriate and rude! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: David Stroebel> [email protected] Take this god damn catfight the hell off this forum and Joyce my opinion of you is that you are way too dramatic for a bunch of people who don't give damn. GET LOST!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

You know, David, I'm just going to send your post, and your defense of it, to abuse at Rootsweb/ Ancestry, and see what they think about your legal rights. Listowner's astounding statement that it isn't cussing while I'm at it. I don't know who the pair of you intended to bully, or why, but it doesn't need to be stood for. Meanwhile it certainly comes across that you need to go back on your meds. It looks like you answered me no less than three times in five minutes! Dora -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:55 PM To: [email protected] ; Susan ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing I believe there are laws protecting people like me. What you're doing is called cyber bulling. I'm glad I'm saving all these emails. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 10/6/15, Susan via <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2015, 16:49 If you have an issue with a post it might be worth to contact the administrator. Here's how: To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Not in Texas. -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:55 PM To: [email protected] ; Susan ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing I believe there are laws protecting people like me. What you're doing is called cyber bulling. I'm glad I'm saving all these emails. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 10/6/15, Susan via <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2015, 16:49 If you have an issue with a post it might be worth to contact the administrator. Here's how: To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Agreed - there is always someone who will say something like that. What bothers me is the listowner's seeming complicity with the sentiment that was expressed. Dora -----Original Message----- From: VLB via Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:12 PM To: Diane Jacobs ; 'Robert Leonard' ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 Agree. Hope you will stay. Virginia From: Diane Jacobs via <[email protected]> To: 'Robert Leonard' <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 I have been on this list for over ten years and very rarely have seen rude people. No need to remove yourself if there is a bad apple in the barrel. Diane -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leonard via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]>; nyc-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 2:36 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 Is it necessary to curse on this List? If so, I want to be taken off! Dr. Rober t Leonard ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I dunno... having seen both the offending post, and the listowner's pronouncement that it wasn't swearing, I rather think she wasn't aware of it and suspect she heartily approved. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Susan via Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing If you have an issue with a post it might be worth to contact the administrator. Here's how: To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

I have now seen David Stroebel's post, and it was abusive. Too abusive to repeat; I'd look like I was trying to feed a fight! One sentence was packed with cuss words, another was shouted, and he didn't even trouble with grammar. I suspect if I'd been standing nearby when he wrote it, I'd have been waiting for him to hit me so I could have him locked up. Far more hotly and way more rudely put than was needed to make his point, which is that he thought an argument doesn't belong here. What the listowner does about it should be at her discretion, but if she's saying David said nothing wrong, I have to wonder if she wants to gang up with him against someone else. I've written as angrily, and I've certainly written rudely, and I've said as many cuss words - but never together, not once in my life. Not since I was four years old and my parents spanked me soundly all three times I tried it. Dora > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

God damn isn't a curse word! Well, now, depending on the context, and the number of saw/ heard it, I wouldn't necessarily find it abusive - but it is definitely a curse word. According to how you define obscenity, it might not also be an obscenity, but it's pretty much the same difference. Dora -----Original Message----- From: David Stroebel via Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 PM To: metronycancestry ; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC List Admin = Carol Why don't you speak directly to me [email protected]? Apparently you are uninformed as to if "God damn" is a curse word. According to Dictionary.com it is not- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/goddamn If you don't like me objecting to off-topic subject then please unsubscribe yourself- including Dr. Robert Leonard- Is that a PHD doctor Leonard? Here is some free advice for those who want to over control/take control of this board from Carol the administrator: Don't try it. You sound silly. Your pal, Dave -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 10/6/15, metronycancestry via <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC List Admin = Carol To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2015, 15:27 It is time for the List Admin speak with David Stroebel before another of his posts gets out of hand. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leonard Is it necessary to curse on this List? If so, I want to be taken off! Dr. Robert Leonard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From:[email protected] How inappropriate and rude! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: David Stroebel> [email protected] Take this god damn catfight the hell off this forum and Joyce my opinion of you is that you are way too dramatic for a bunch of people who don't give damn. GET LOST!! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Again the PC comes a calling! To me and other Christians taking our Lord's name in vain is a curse! -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sent: Jun 10, 2015 4:28 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 121 > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 (David Stroebel) > 2. Re: Cursing (David Stroebel) > 3. Re: Cursing (David Stroebel) > 4. Re: NYC List Admin = Carol (Dora Smith) > 5. Re: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 (Dora Smith) > 6. Re: Cursing (Dora Smith) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:51:13 -0700 >From: David Stroebel <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 >To: Robert Pieterse <[email protected]>, [email protected], Robert > Leonard <[email protected]> >Message-ID: > <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Freedom of speech- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/goddamn >Not a curse word now drop the subject > >-------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 10/6/15, Robert Leonard via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 > To: "Robert Pieterse" <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2015, 15:05 > > > ???Thanks? for that info, however it > doesn't answer my question about the > ???language! > > ? ???-----Original Message----- > ? ???From: Robert Pieterse > ? ???Sent: Jun 10, 2015 11:48 AM > ? ???To: [email protected], > [email protected] > ? ???Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS > Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 > > ???You???have???to???un???subscribe???your? > self? if? you? want? off? the > ???list................. > > > > > > ???-----Original Message----- > ???From: Robert Leonard via <[email protected]> > ???To: nyc-roots <[email protected]>; > nyc-roots <[email protected]> > ???Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 2:36 pm > ???Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, > Vol 10, Issue 118 > Is it necessary to curse on this List? If so, I want to be > taken off! Dr. Rober > t > Leonard > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: > [1][email protected] > >Sent: Jun 10, 2015 12:00 AM > >To: > [2][email protected] > >Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue > 118 > > > > > > > >Today's Topics: > > > >???1. Re: I see my last post re NEW > ancestry > has not gone through > >? ? ? probably because it was so > long...please watch for > it > > > ([3][email protected]) > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Message: > 1 > >Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 22:23:02 -0400 > >From: > [4][email protected] > >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] I see my last post re NEW > ancestry has not > >? ? ???gone through probably > because it was so long...please watch > for it > >To: [5][email protected], > [6][email protected], > >? ? ???[7][email protected],? > [8][email protected] > >Cc: > [9][email protected], > [10][email protected] > >Message-ID: > <[11][email protected]> > >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=utf-8 > > > > > > How inappropriate and rude! > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: David Stroebel via > <[12][email protected]> > > > > > > > > > >???Take this god damn catfight the hell > off this forum and Joyce my opinion > >of > >???you is that you are way too > dramatic for a bunch of people who don't give > >a > >???damn. GET LOST!! > > > [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > >? ???At Jun 6, > >2015, 2:54:00 PM, Joyce > Presnall via wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------ > > > >To > contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email > to > >[13][email protected] > > > >To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS > mailing list, send an email to > [14][email protected] > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [15][email protected] > >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the > >email with no additional text. > > > > > >End > of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue > 118 > >****************************************** > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to [16][email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > ???1. mailto:[email protected] > ???2. mailto:[email protected] > ???3. mailto:[email protected] > ???4. mailto:[email protected] > ???5. mailto:[email protected] > ???6. mailto:[email protected] > ???7. mailto:[email protected] > ???8. mailto:[email protected] > ???9. mailto:[email protected] > ? 10. mailto:[email protected] > ? 11. mailto:[email protected] > ? 12. mailto:[email protected] > ? 13. mailto:[email protected] > ? 14. mailto:[email protected] > ? 15. mailto:[email protected] > ? 16. mailto:[email protected] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:55:01 -0700 >From: David Stroebel <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Susan > <[email protected]>, [email protected] >Message-ID: > <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >I believe there are laws protecting people like me. What you're doing is called cyber bulling. I'm glad I'm saving all these emails. > >-------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 10/6/15, Susan via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2015, 16:49 > > If you have an issue with a post it > might be worth to contact the administrator. Here's how: > > To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email > to > [email protected] > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:55:01 -0700 >From: David Stroebel <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Susan > <[email protected]>, [email protected] >Message-ID: > <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >I believe there are laws protecting people like me. What you're doing is called cyber bulling. I'm glad I'm saving all these emails. > >-------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 10/6/15, Susan via <[email protected]> wrote: > > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2015, 16:49 > > If you have an issue with a post it > might be worth to contact the administrator. Here's how: > > To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email > to > [email protected] > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:08:17 -0500 >From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC List Admin = Carol >To: "David Stroebel" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >God damn isn't a curse word! > >Well, now, depending on the context, and the number of saw/ heard it, I >wouldn't necessarily find it abusive - but it is definitely a curse word. > >According to how you define obscenity, it might not also be an obscenity, >but it's pretty much the same difference. > >Dora > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Stroebel via >Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:46 PM >To: metronycancestry ; [email protected] >Cc: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC List Admin = Carol > >Why don't you speak directly to me [email protected]? > >Apparently you are uninformed as to if "God damn" is a curse word. According >to Dictionary.com it is not- http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/goddamn > >If you don't like me objecting to off-topic subject then please unsubscribe >yourself- including Dr. Robert >Leonard- Is that a PHD doctor Leonard? > >Here is some free advice for those who want to over control/take control of >this board from Carol the administrator: Don't try it. You sound silly. > >Your pal, Dave > > > > >-------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 10/6/15, metronycancestry via <[email protected]> wrote: > >Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC List Admin = Carol >To: [email protected], [email protected] >Date: Wednesday, 10 June, 2015, 15:27 > > > > It is time for the List Admin speak with David >Stroebel > >before another >of his posts gets out of hand. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Leonard > > >Is it necessary to curse on >this List? If so, I want to be taken off! Dr. Robert >Leonard > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From:[email protected] > > How inappropriate and >rude! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >From: David Stroebel> [email protected] > >Take this god damn catfight the hell >off this forum and Joyce my opinion >of you is that you are way too >dramatic for a bunch of people who don't >give >damn. GET LOST!! > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to [email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >http://www.avast.com > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:19:51 -0500 >From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 >To: <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I have now seen David Stroebel's post, and it was abusive. Too abusive to >repeat; I'd look like I was trying to feed a fight! One sentence was >packed with cuss words, another was shouted, and he didn't even trouble with >grammar. I suspect if I'd been standing nearby when he wrote it, I'd have >been waiting for him to hit me so I could have him locked up. Far more >hotly and way more rudely put than was needed to make his point, which is >that he thought an argument doesn't belong here. > >What the listowner does about it should be at her discretion, but if she's >saying David said nothing wrong, I have to wonder if she wants to gang up >with him against someone else. > >I've written as angrily, and I've certainly written rudely, and I've said as >many cuss words - but never together, not once in my life. Not since I was >four years old and my parents spanked me soundly all three times I tried it. > >Dora > > >> >> > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >http://www.avast.com > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:28:34 -0500 >From: "Dora Smith" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing >To: "Susan" <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I dunno... having seen both the offending post, and the listowner's >pronouncement that it wasn't swearing, I rather think she wasn't aware of it >and suspect she heartily approved. > >Dora > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Susan via >Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:49 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Cursing > >If you have an issue with a post it might be worth to contact the >administrator. Here's how: > >To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >[email protected] > >Sent from my iPhone > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >http://www.avast.com > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >[email protected] > >To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 121 >******************************************

If you have an issue with a post it might be worth to contact the administrator. Here's how: To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] Sent from my iPhone

It is time for the List Admin speak with David Stroebel before another of his posts gets out of hand. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leonard Is it necessary to curse on this List? If so, I want to be taken off! Dr. Robert Leonard ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From:[email protected] How inappropriate and rude! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: David Stroebel> [email protected] Take this god damn catfight the hell off this forum and Joyce my opinion of you is that you are way too dramatic for a bunch of people who don't give damn. GET LOST!!

I have been on this list for over ten years and very rarely have seen rude people. No need to remove yourself if there is a bad apple in the barrel. Diane -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Leonard via Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 3:05 PM To: Robert Pieterse; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 Thanks for that info, however it doesn't answer my question about the language! -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pieterse Sent: Jun 10, 2015 11:48 AM To: [email protected], [email protected] Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 You have to un subscribe your self if you want off the list................. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leonard via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]>; nyc-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 2:36 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 Is it necessary to curse on this List? If so, I want to be taken off! Dr. Rober t Leonard -----Original Message----- >From: [1][email protected] >Sent: Jun 10, 2015 12:00 AM >To: [2][email protected] >Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: I see my last post re NEW ancestry has not gone through > probably because it was so long...please watch for it > ([3][email protected]) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 22:23:02 -0400 >From: [4][email protected] >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] I see my last post re NEW ancestry has not > gone through probably because it was so long...please watch for it >To: [5][email protected], [6][email protected], > [7][email protected], [8][email protected] >Cc: [9][email protected], [10][email protected] >Message-ID: <[11][email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > How inappropriate and rude! > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Stroebel via <[12][email protected]> > > > > > Take this god damn catfight the hell off this forum and Joyce my opinion >of > you is that you are way too dramatic for a bunch of people who don't give >a > damn. GET LOST!! > [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > At Jun 6, >2015, 2:54:00 PM, Joyce Presnall via wrote: > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >[13][email protected] > >To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to [14][email protected] > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [15][email protected] >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 >****************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [16][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. mailto:[email protected] 7. mailto:[email protected] 8. mailto:[email protected] 9. mailto:[email protected] 10. mailto:[email protected] 11. mailto:[email protected] 12. mailto:[email protected] 13. mailto:[email protected] 14. mailto:[email protected] 15. mailto:[email protected] 16. mailto:[email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You have to un subscribe your self if you want off the list................. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Leonard via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]>; nyc-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 2:36 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 Is it necessary to curse on this List? If so, I want to be taken off! Dr. Robert Leonard -----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >Sent: Jun 10, 2015 12:00 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 > > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: I see my last post re NEW ancestry has not gone through > probably because it was so long...please watch for it > ([email protected]) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 22:23:02 -0400 >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] I see my last post re NEW ancestry has not > gone through probably because it was so long...please watch for it >To: [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected] >Cc: [email protected], [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > How inappropriate and rude! > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: David Stroebel via <[email protected]> > > > > > Take this god damn catfight the hell off this forum and Joyce my opinion >of > you is that you are way too dramatic for a bunch of people who don't give >a > damn. GET LOST!! > [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > At Jun 6, >2015, 2:54:00 PM, Joyce Presnall via wrote: > > > > > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the NYC-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to >[email protected] > >To post a message to the NYC-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of NYC-ROOTS Digest, Vol 10, Issue 118 >****************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message