Where can this db be found? On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Robert Pieterse via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > New data base contains SS number and parents names > > All U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 > > The SSDI does not have the social security number > > Census records for 1950 will not be released till 2022 yet > people born after 1940 and are deceased are listed with there > parents. > > Omit the SS number in one data base and put it in another. > A lot of thought went into that. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, this is one of the few web sites that has Grinlinton information on it. I will have to go back onto it to see if I can find the other information on this person when he got into a fight with his brother, and it was reported in the newspapers. Susan S. On 8/1/15 3:00 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:05:41 -0700 > From: "Judy Janes" <[email protected]> > Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Robert Grinlinton > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > You will probably find your answers about Grinlinton by using the > FultonHistory Newspapers website. Just enter Grinlinton in the search box. > > http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

You will probably find your answers about Grinlinton by using the FultonHistory Newspapers website. Just enter Grinlinton in the search box. http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Sealed divorces would be the most helpful to family searchers. But, have you considered many of NYC's poor didn't divorce, they just moved on. At New York COUNTY* Clerk's Office it is possible to research the index for all marital actions that includes divorce, separation, annulment, etc. for Manhattanites. The index reveals names of both parties and dates of actions. These indexes are filed on the county level. -----Original Message----- From: Bobbi DeOliveira <[email protected]> Perhaps they are protecting your warm fuzzy feelings for your father. Perhaps he got drunk and tried to kill your mother. Or maybe he had anaffair with your mother's sister. If not you, then perhaps the children ofthe next divorce, or the one after that. It is easier just to make a rulingcovering all divorces.>> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:35:26 -0400>> To:[email protected]; [email protected]>> CC:[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC DivorceRecords/Italian Citizenship>> From: [email protected]>>>>>> They should re-evaluate their theory's. ...............They >> are protecting nothing My parents got divorced so getting >> some document with some lawyer dribble on it serves no >> purpose anyway. People get divorced for a myriad of >> reasons.>> So how is my privacy protected since I know they divorced..

I have an ancestor, born in 1905, who was adopted by my great-great grandparents. For sure he was not their biological child, but he had their surname. The family rumor was that his mother was another family member, although not one of their biological children. More likely a sister of one of my great-grandparents. Is it likely that I could find information about his adoption, and where would I find it? Does anyone think it might appear on his birth certificate, when it was amended? Suggestions, anyone? Thanks,Frances Researching:Ireland/New York City: Carey, Gray, Glynn/Glinn, Bannon Lithuania/New York City: Buivydas, Mockevicius Scotland/Ireland/Rhode Island/Connecticut/New York City: Drysdale, Duffy, Chapman-0-Qui vit sans folie n'est pas si sage qu'il croit.~Francois de La Rochefoucault > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:57:35 -0400 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NY State Adoptions > From: [email protected] > > > Legislation is pending about changing access to adoptions. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elizabeth Knowlton via <[email protected]> > > > > And were sealed retroactively so that my adult grandmother, adopted in > 1916, > now dead for over 70 years, has closed forever records. It is not > sealed for > adoptee's life; it is sealed forever. > Elizabeth > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When and were did the daughter pass ??Were is she buried and if married who and when did she marry When was your GG GF born and when did he pass and what is the last noted observance of him Being guilty of murder in NY in 1864 and having a child in IL in 1867 does not mix very well. -----Original Message----- From: Susan Seifert via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2015 10:32 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Mystery Ancestors Living in NYC- Grinlinton Murder I have a great great grandfather who lived in NYC during the mid to late 1800s, named Robert Grinlinton. I have very little information on him, but will ask here, giving some of the clues I have, if anyone can make heads or tails out of this. He had a daughter named ŒGeorgiana Capitola¹ (born 1867). According to her death certificate, it looks like she was born in Illinois. We have not clues as to the mother¹s name. Robert Grinlinton was found in some directories living on Spring Street, and also on Mulberry (not at the same time!). Also, in 1864, there was a Robert Grinlinton who was found guilty of murder, who lived on Mulberry. Trying to play detective, if this man was my ancestor, he was found guilty of murder in 1864, and fathered a daughter in 1867, possibly in Illinois. Apparently, the mother was from New York also. The area where Robert Grinlinton lived when he was found guilty of murder, was known as ŒLittle Italy¹. There are other Grinlintons who moved to the Bronx who married into Italian families. With a middle name of Capitola, and possibly living in ŒLittle Italy¹ could Robert Grinlinton¹s wife (my great great grandmother) have been Italian? Also, could it be that Robert Grinlinton moved out with his family to Illinois after being found guilty? I don¹t know anything about what happened after his trial, which I assumed he had. The murder took place during a drinking brawl, and Robert Grinlinton defended himself by saying he was acting in self defense. I¹ve been doing my genealogy for about 22 years now, and I am stuck on this one, although every once in a great while, I get another possible clue. Plus, Grinlinton is a pretty uncommon name. Haven¹t found much success with census records except from one in NJ where Capitola lived and the census taker wrote down that Robert Grinlinton was Scotch. How do I begin to research all these clues to find out more information on this family, and if indeed they are truly my ancestors? Thanks for any help. Susan S. Looking for Grinlinton, Guth, Gitz, Wilbur, Ennis, Dykeman ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow. People who led boring lives are hard to find. If your ancestor committed a crime, this will helpful, sad to say Have you delved into newspapers? I also find that researching the person's immediate family often brings unexpected clues or substantiates the facts/relationships. Did he have siblings, children? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:31 AM, Susan Seifert via <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have a great great grandfather who lived in NYC during the mid to late > 1800s, named Robert Grinlinton. I have very little information on him, but > will ask here, giving some of the clues I have, if anyone can make heads or > tails out of this. > > He had a daughter named ŒGeorgiana Capitola¹ (born 1867). According to her > death certificate, it looks like she was born in Illinois. We have not clues > as to the mother¹s name. > > Robert Grinlinton was found in some directories living on Spring Street, and > also on Mulberry (not at the same time!). Also, in 1864, there was a Robert > Grinlinton who was found guilty of murder, who lived on Mulberry. > > Trying to play detective, if this man was my ancestor, he was found guilty > of murder in 1864, and fathered a daughter in 1867, possibly in Illinois. > Apparently, the mother was from New York also. > > The area where Robert Grinlinton lived when he was found guilty of murder, > was known as ŒLittle Italy¹. There are other Grinlintons who moved to the > Bronx who married into Italian families. > > With a middle name of Capitola, and possibly living in ŒLittle Italy¹ could > Robert Grinlinton¹s wife (my great great grandmother) have been Italian? > Also, could it be that Robert Grinlinton moved out with his family to > Illinois after being found guilty? I don¹t know anything about what happened > after his trial, which I assumed he had. The murder took place during a > drinking brawl, and Robert Grinlinton defended himself by saying he was > acting in self defense. > > I¹ve been doing my genealogy for about 22 years now, and I am stuck on this > one, although every once in a great while, I get another possible clue. > Plus, Grinlinton is a pretty uncommon name. Haven¹t found much success with > census records except from one in NJ where Capitola lived and the census > taker wrote down that Robert Grinlinton was Scotch. > > How do I begin to research all these clues to find out more information on > this family, and if indeed they are truly my ancestors? > > Thanks for any help. > > Susan S. > Looking for Grinlinton, Guth, Gitz, Wilbur, Ennis, Dykeman > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a great great grandfather who lived in NYC during the mid to late 1800s, named Robert Grinlinton. I have very little information on him, but will ask here, giving some of the clues I have, if anyone can make heads or tails out of this. He had a daughter named ŒGeorgiana Capitola¹ (born 1867). According to her death certificate, it looks like she was born in Illinois. We have not clues as to the mother¹s name. Robert Grinlinton was found in some directories living on Spring Street, and also on Mulberry (not at the same time!). Also, in 1864, there was a Robert Grinlinton who was found guilty of murder, who lived on Mulberry. Trying to play detective, if this man was my ancestor, he was found guilty of murder in 1864, and fathered a daughter in 1867, possibly in Illinois. Apparently, the mother was from New York also. The area where Robert Grinlinton lived when he was found guilty of murder, was known as ŒLittle Italy¹. There are other Grinlintons who moved to the Bronx who married into Italian families. With a middle name of Capitola, and possibly living in ŒLittle Italy¹ could Robert Grinlinton¹s wife (my great great grandmother) have been Italian? Also, could it be that Robert Grinlinton moved out with his family to Illinois after being found guilty? I don¹t know anything about what happened after his trial, which I assumed he had. The murder took place during a drinking brawl, and Robert Grinlinton defended himself by saying he was acting in self defense. I¹ve been doing my genealogy for about 22 years now, and I am stuck on this one, although every once in a great while, I get another possible clue. Plus, Grinlinton is a pretty uncommon name. Haven¹t found much success with census records except from one in NJ where Capitola lived and the census taker wrote down that Robert Grinlinton was Scotch. How do I begin to research all these clues to find out more information on this family, and if indeed they are truly my ancestors? Thanks for any help. Susan S. Looking for Grinlinton, Guth, Gitz, Wilbur, Ennis, Dykeman

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The DOH recently changed who may obtain records less than 50 yrs old. Now, siblings may obtain records of siblings...and I mean the LONG form with cause of death included. If you are married, you may need to provide your birth certificate to prove the relationship to your bother, aka same parents. -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor via <[email protected]> To: Karen <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 4:13 pm Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] 1993 NYC death cert . . . You should be able to just order it through the mail. Use this form: http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/vr/death1.pdf It allows you to order a search of a range of dates. Further information here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/services/vr-death-general.shtml Kathleen On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Karen via <[email protected]> wrote: > Good evening! > > How would I obtain a copy of my brother's 1993 NYC death certificate if I > do > not know the EXACT date of his death? > > I just tried to order from VitalChek via Ancestry but got shot down because > I don't know the day in April that he died. > > Thanks for your help. > > Regards, > > Karen Isley Seiferth > > Fort Myers, FL > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Many of us once belonged to Godfrey Library for its remote access to certain records. What you stated about Newsbank is a bunch of bunk. What is the clinical reason for the change? "It's always something,"...Gilda Radner -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Knowlton via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 8:12 am Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] Early American Newspapers Just got this news from the NYG&BS: Due to a change in policy at Newsbank, Inc., institutional subscribers to the Early American Newspapers Series I database may no longer offer remote access to their members. NYG&B members may access to the database through our website as usual until August 31. This is unfortunate as it was one of the big perks of membership. Perhaps many of you subscribe to Newsbank and can give us the details. The Early American Newspapers run from the earliest in our country (before it was USA) up to about 1820 with some a little further. New York state has one of the biggest runs of newspapers, and it has been truly amazing how much data I have accumulated about ordinary male ancestors who were involved in business plus the marriages and deaths of both men and women in my family. New York city area is particularly rich. -- Elizabeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many great points! It does not matter where you presently live. These other types of adoption issues need to be brought to the attention of decision makers. Several things you mention never entered my consciousness, so I feel certain they may escape the minds of those deciding. EX: I did not know sealed adoptions were retroactive until you spoke of it. On that site are links to politicos who vote. -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Knowlton via <[email protected]> To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 7:40 am Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NY State Adoptions Thanks for sending this. From the little I have read, however, it still seems to concern adoptees finding out about themselves, with a lot of concern for protecting privacy of the birth mother, etc. There is nothing about adoptees long dead whose mothers probably lived and died in the 19th century. Half my father's origins were closed to him as are a quarter of my siblings and mine. His mother was born about 1881 and taken into a family everyone believed was hers around 1884. Her mother was probably born around 1860 and had died by the time of Amy's move. The adoptive father legally adopted Amy in 1916 after the death of his wife because of probate problems. The 1916 record may not even give Amy's origins, but it is closed. Now, everyone concerned has been dead for 73 years or more. NY adoption records were closed in the 1930s or so, and no one ever seems concerned about making them open again although the closure must affect millions of descendants. Elizabeth On 7/29/2015 3:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: Message: 4 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:09:35 -0400 From:[email protected] Subject: [NYC-ROOTS] NYS Adoption and "UNSEALED INITIATIVE" To:[email protected],[email protected] Message-ID:<[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 It appears that a rewrite of the original proposal is not satisfactory to the initiative. http://www.unsealedinitiative.org/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can not get a divorce record for my grandmother from 1927 for her and her first husband, but i got a 1953 divorce record from Florida for her and my grandfather...go figure....There is no one left of the family except me and my brothers, so who is being protected? I just want to do my genealogy and finding out about the 1927 divorce may open a door. I guess I'll have to wait another 12 years. > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2015 17:35:26 -0400 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC Divorce Records/Italian Citizenship > From: [email protected] > > > They should re0evaluate their theory's. ...............They are protecting nothing My parents got divorced so getting some document with some lawyer dribble on it serves no purpose anyway. People get divorced for a myriad of reasons. > So how is my privacy protected since I know they divorced.. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: metronycancestry via <[email protected]> > To: nyc-roots <[email protected]> > Cc: NYC-Roots-L <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2015 4:51 pm > Subject: Re: [NYC-ROOTS] NYC Divorce Records/Italian Citizenship > > > > Their theory is to protect the privacy of the divorce from the couple's > children. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Pieterse > > > > > 100 years to get a divorce record.......That is absurd. > > NY > is living in the dark ages in regard to the release of records. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, > please send an email to [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My thanks to everyone who responded to my query regarding my brother's death certificate SSDI only lists "April 1993" Due to his rather unfortunate life, there was no burial - he was cremated - no obituary or death notice either. I intend to send my request to the DOH. Thank you again for all of your help and suggestions. Regards, Karen Isley Seiferth Fort Myers, FL

Hi Karen, In regards to finding the exact date of your brother's passing, have you tried www.findagrave.com ? Also try: http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=3693 Social Security Death Index. Regards, Sherri

You should be able to just order it through the mail. Use this form: http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/vr/death1.pdf It allows you to order a search of a range of dates. Further information here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/services/vr-death-general.shtml Kathleen On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Karen via <[email protected]> wrote: > Good evening! > > How would I obtain a copy of my brother's 1993 NYC death certificate if I > do > not know the EXACT date of his death? > > I just tried to order from VitalChek via Ancestry but got shot down because > I don't know the day in April that he died. > > Thanks for your help. > > Regards, > > Karen Isley Seiferth > > Fort Myers, FL > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Just got this news from the NYG&BS: Due to a change in policy at Newsbank, Inc., institutional subscribers to the Early American Newspapers Series I database may no longer offer remote access to their members. NYG&B members may access to the database through our website as usual until August 31. This is unfortunate as it was one of the big perks of membership. Perhaps many of you subscribe to Newsbank and can give us the details. The Early American Newspapers run from the earliest in our country (before it was USA) up to about 1820 with some a little further. New York state has one of the biggest runs of newspapers, and it has been truly amazing how much data I have accumulated about ordinary male ancestors who were involved in business plus the marriages and deaths of both men and women in my family. New York city area is particularly rich. -- Elizabeth