OK, I looked at my 1901 passenger manifest and now it has the thumbnails to scroll through the list. I didn't go all the way to the Detained Aliens because it was hard to read the pages. That's on my "to-do" list for later today. Marie Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL *Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.* --------------------------------------------------------------- CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations. On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Joyce Presnall via <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > wrote: > Thank you for pointing out the list view option, that was the "missing > feature" that was most upsetting to me...but I have to say I still don't > like the new site. Joyce > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Mary D. Taffet <mdtaffet@twcny.rr.com> > wrote: > > > Joyce & Barb, > > > > I think some of the functionality you are missing may still be there. I > > was able to get a list of all passengers with the last name "Taffet" for > > instance. > > > > I went to "Passenger Search", entered a last name, and then clicked on > the > > right arrow to perform the search. The list came up, though I had to > click > > on the little icon indicating that I wanted to see a list view instead of > > the larger horizontal icon view it starts with. > > > > I clicked first on the Passenger Record for one of the names in the list. > > At that point I had to create a new account. It might be that if I had > > used the correct email address with the "Forgot your Password" link, it > > would have recognized me but then told me I needed to create a new > > password. Anyways, once I created the new account, I was able to view > the > > passenger record, and from there I could view the manifest. True the > > manifest enlarger is no longer there, but it is incorporated into the > page > > that shows you the manifest. Putting your mouse over the manifest image > > will enlarge it right there in front of you, though you do have to be > > careful to not scroll too fast with your mouse. You can save the image > to > > your profile, but I haven't investigated that function yet. > > > > If you want to do some filtering of your results list, just click on the > > little filter funnel, which brings up several different types of > filtering > > that you can do (Contains, Exact Matches, Close Matches, Sounds Like, > > Alternate Spellings, and Last Name as First). I don't see a way to do > true > > wild card searching (like "T*f*t" for example), but I haven't used the > site > > directly in so long that I don't recall if that type of functionality was > > ever there to begin with. > > > > Steve Morse's search tools (stevemorse.org) will still take you to the > > page with the passenger you want on it. If you find his search tools > > easier to use, you might want to make his search page your front end for > > the Ellis Island site. > > > > -- Mary > > > > > > > > > > On 9/7/2014 5:31 PM, Joyce Presnall via wrote: > > > >> The biggest problem I see (although I see many) is that you can no > longer > >> get a list by last name and where they are from...often that is our > >> biggest > >> clue as to who other family members are. Additionally, you cannot use > >> your > >> "back browser" to view something you just looked at...it tells you the > >> image has expired and you need to start your search over. > >> > >> I read on Facebook that they are going to move over who is saved in your > >> file BUT from now on those saved files will only stay there 30 days...so > >> if > >> you don't do something with that file in 30 days, POOF it is gone and > you > >> have to start your search all over again...so they are trying to force > you > >> "buy the image this month or you will lose it" > >> > >> I don't see any option for wildcard searches.... > >> > >> But to ME not being able to see a list of 25-100 ppl at one time is the > >> biggest drawback...THAT is your biggest clue as to who family members > may > >> be... > >> > >> Ugh they have messed up so many things it is hard to know which ones are > >> the worst... > >> > >> They have 20 something year old kids designing something that 60-80+ > year > >> old people are trying to use. Their search options were fine > before--yes > >> some things needed improvement but those improvements were minor. > >> > >> If they wanted to throw a bunch of money at the wall, they should have > >> looked over records for transcription errors...sure the old site wasn't > >> ideal, and a few things could have been improved, but they threw the > baby > >> out with the bathwater and the things that WERE good about the site are > >> gone. > >> > >> There was a LOT more flexibility for searching the way the site used to > be > >> set up...It is quite clear they got NO input from the "user group"...The > >> COULD have done a mass email to all who are registered on the site and > ask > >> about what changes people wanted to see...instead they got a bunch of IT > >> guys who don't know anything about genealogy, and made the site pretty > >> instead of functional...They should have put functionality first and > they > >> didn't. > >> > >> The primary reason they did the change to the way we see manifests is > they > >> did not want people copying the info via snipping tools...but the > control > >> over moving those passenger lists around is so imprecise that it is > >> difficult to keep focused on the lines you are trying to follow to get > the > >> details on that person... > >> > >> Did they REALLY think this is going to make more people order copies > from > >> them for manifests? It is not. The plain truth is they are too > >> expensive. People are just going to write down what they might have > >> snipped a copy of before... > >> > >> They messed up so much stuff it is crazy...I have yet to talk to one > >> person > >> who likes the changes...they took a lot of our ability to research in a > >> sane, organized manner away...this is a ship run amuck for sure... > >> > >> Joyce > >> > > > > > -- > Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, > Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, > Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, > Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, > Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, > Norton, Gerard, and many more... > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >