We are living in an uber materialistic society of ultimate greed. Period. Every step we take is circumscribed by money mongers...homes, cars, food, goods, etc. No scruples. LDS sells OUR records. They're not the only ones. The Roman Catholic church where I was married had to sell it's records to Ancestry, as intimate and exact details of my marriage are on Ancestry! Did I sign a waiver to a "private" aka Catholic "sacramental" marriage to the parish? No! [Hey folks, if you don't believe me, just research yourself. Guaranteed shock.] Whatever happened to the basic genealogy "rule" that you shrouded details about living people? The only place that you see this "courtesy" perpetuated is on family trees that were submitted by those who respect the living. Five years ago, both my parents were old and living in a retirement community in FL. While they were ALIVE, Ancestry provided their ages and addresses online...oh...paid Ancestry subscription! We are not talking about newspaper Obits folks. But, their NYC Marriage circa 1950 is still not accessible online and limited to them or children by the NYC Marriage Bureau. No NYC Marriage from approximately 1950 forward is available online or in person to investigators. AND, most of these folks are long dead. So, who do list as the list as the defendant in a suit, Ancestry aka The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Church or the Roman Catholic church responsible for the "sacrament" of marriage? Probably both. Barb =============== From: buffycat@juno.com via ny-irish@rootsweb.com While Familysearch may tout itself as fully free, in reality it has sold off large holdings of its content and records to others. Years back I used to find records on this site unavailable anywhere else, they have since disappeared into a black hole. The only proof I have of such records is that I fortunately printed them out.