For all who remember; who stand in support of our American family; who bear the losses and honour the sacrifices made by their families and mine throughout the ages; I stand with you. It's not political; it's personal. Cissi -----Original Message----- From: nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nybrooklyn-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:23 AM To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com Subject: NYBROOKLYN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 267 Today's Topics: 1. 9-11 Patriot Day (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) 2. Father Judge (john dvorak) 3. Re: Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on the NYBrooklyn list? (john dvorak) 4. Sept 11 (NancyL916@aol.com) 5. Re: Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on theNYBrooklyn list? (frank dillman) 6. Re: Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on the NYBrooklyn list? (1.judyh@fuse.net) 7. Ancestry.com Controversey (1.judyh@fuse.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:21:40 EDT From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com Subject: [BKLYN] 9-11 Patriot Day To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com, NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com Cc: gfmerna_usmc@msn.com Message-ID: <c35.42235462.35fa2f14@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I received the following email from a veteran who I regard as a true patriot and retired Marine. He and his brothers were raised in a Rockland County, NY orphange, and all five served in the armed forces. One, never returned. Gerry informed me that only the President of the U.S. has the authority to proclaim when the flag is to be flown at half mast. The following link states: "By a joint resolution approved December 18, 2001 (Public Law 107-89), the Congress has designated September 11 of each year as "Patriot Day...that the flag be flown at half-staff on Patriot Day." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/proclamations/ Thank you Gerry for sharing this. Bless you Gerry, those who stand up for America, and all who believe that there are better days for our citizens and country. Barb North of New York City ================= Subj:Re: IMPORTANT 9/11 question. > > Date:9/11/2008 1:08:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From: gfmerna_usmc@msn.com To:MizScarlettNY@aol.com> > > Barb: > > Only the President can issue ?Proclamations? re flying the flag at Half > Staff and I cannot find any for this year?s 9/11. That doesn?t mean there isn?t > one. Here are his proclamations as of 9/8 for this year, and the past couple > of years since 9/11/01: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/proclamations/ > > Although opinions differ as to what to do (or keep doing) in the aftermath > of 9/11, most of us have a certain pride in calling ourselves Americans. I > fully intend to show my pride by flying the stars and stripes today, 9/11. > Unfortunately, because my flag pole on the porch is so small if I put it at > half-mast it would look like the devil, else I?d put it at half-mast. > > For all you ever wanted to know about the Flag, go here: > http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html > > For the United States Flag Code, go here: > http://www.ushistoryorg/betsy/flagcode.htm > > Hope this is of some help. > > Jerry > > PS: Normally I fly both the American and Marine Corps colors EVERY DAY! > ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus > the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:42:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john dvorak <john.dvorak@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [BKLYN] Father Judge To: Brooklyn New York <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <663509.27396.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I was remembering Father Judge, for a cousin of mine who was close to him.? He joined the NY Fire Department because this Father Judge was such a dear man to him.? Just wanted y'all to know that.?? My cousin will never be the same since 9/11/2001, just as so many of you all will never be the same.? We move on, we make things better than they ever were before!? That's what we do! God bless AMERICA John ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:55:45 -0700 (PDT) From: john dvorak <john.dvorak@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on the NYBrooklyn list? To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <700638.30208.qm@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 POLITICAL? No Way! I agree with you!? If we let this be a political thing, then the terrorists have won.? For that is what they wanted in the first place.? For the government to fall down.?? We MUST never let this happen.? John in Michigan ----- Original Message ---- From: "MikeandLeslieL@aol.com" <MikeandLeslieL@aol.com> To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 11:46:29 PM Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on the NYBrooklyn list? My cousin was one of the firemen killed on 9/11.? I thank everyone? that remembers the sacrifice that Michael and so many others made that fateful? day.? Michael was just going off-duty whent the call came in - he jumped on? the truck and rode downtown with his brother firefighters.? He died? doing what he loved - helping others. I'm afraid I don't see remembering close to 3,000 deaths as? "political."? I am sorry if some do - but from my still grieving family to? all of you - thank you for remembering.? ? Bail ? Dhia ort Leslie **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.? ? ? (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ___________________________________ The Bklyn Info Pages Website: www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ___________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:25:53 EDT From: NancyL916@aol.com Subject: [BKLYN] Sept 11 To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <cc8.37acc6e5.35fa6851@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Dear Listers; Today is one of the saddest days in the HISTORY of not only the United States but the world. As was any of the wars our ancestors, fathers, brothers uncles, cousins, etc, have fought and died for, the only difference is WE have experienced this horrific history through our own eyes, ears and most importantly, our hearts first hands. As we pay tribute on Veterans Day, Memorial Day, VD Day, we pay tribute now to the events of September 11. You must remember, this is a tragedy that is being focused on in schools, across our town halls and parks across not only our great nation BUT the world nations themselves. We live history on these lists, we search our past, combing through time for events of the past, so we may connect to our lives, our children's future. The past doesn't need to be a hundred years old. Yesterday was the past, last night was the past, the moment this letter is sent it is in the past..It is history, it is a memory in the winds of time. This is not political, this is REMEMBERANCE. There are families grieving this morning who lost family members and friends..I for one am one of them..and I'll be damned if I let anyone take away the tribute to these innocent men, women and children whose lives were sacrificed in the name of a religious faction. As I asked you to fly a flag on July 4th, or visit a veteran's grave, I will ask you today to take those moments of silence , no matter where you are, and remember those whose lives were lost. As with WW2, we must never forget. We need to learn from these tragedies, we need to stand as a whole, not only as a nation, but as a people, as part of the human race. We can only make change, when we remember the pain of the past. Nancy **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:53:52 -0600 From: "frank dillman" <frank@frankdillman.com> Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on theNYBrooklyn list? To: <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <7E0042CC313F4D7D9AE8B0C7705D60CC@S5100NX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Boy: I support Barb, Joye, Claudia, and John in their position on this day of our history. History does not have to sit on a shelf to be later discovered. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: Joy Rich To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 22:09 Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on theNYBrooklyn list? On this list, they are. For example, Nancy Lutz, our List Administrator, sends us greetings on holidays, and we subscribers often post our memories of how we celebrated them in Brooklyn. Nancy is a kind and generous person who has made the Brooklyn List a family. Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY --- On Wed, 9/10/08, JAH <jaherbert@frontiernet.net> wrote: From: JAH <jaherbert@frontiernet.net> Subject: [BKLYN] Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on the NYBrooklyn list? To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 7:41 PM Are non-genealogy posts allowed on the list? (Re: FLY the FLAG on Thursday). I'd rather not receive political messages when I subscribe to a subject specific list. Perhaps the list owner can answer the question for me, and possibly others. Thank you. Judy Herbert Today's Topics: 1. Re: 1933 Real Genie Brick Wall (Diane Jacobs) 2. FLY the FLAG Thursday (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) 3. anyone have a NY Times subscription? (Susan) 4. Re: anyone have a NY Times subscription? (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) 5. Re: anyone have a NY Times subscription? (warrior rabbit) Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:00:09 EDT From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com Subject: [BKLYN] FLY the FLAG Thursday To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c7f.19f6db28.35f859f9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Thursday is the sad anniversary of terrorists destroying America, as we've known it. Please join us in this FLY THE FLAG campaign and forward this to your address book friends, asking them to pass it on. THE PROGRAM: On Thursday, September 11th, 2008, display an American flag outside every home, apartment, office, and store in the United States . Every individual can make it their duty to display an American flag on this seventh anniversary of our country's worst travesty. This is a gesture of unity to honor those who lost their lives on 9/11, their families, friends, and loved ones who continue to endure the pain, and those who are fighting to preserve our cherished freedoms. In the days, weeks and months following 9/11, our country was bathed in American flags as citizens mourned the incredible losses and stood shoulder-to-shoulder against terrorism. Sadly, those flags have all but disappeared. Our patriotism pulled us through some tough times and it shouldn't take another attack to galvanize us in solidarity. Our American flag represents our country. Together we can prevail over terrorism of all kinds Take a moment to think back to how you felt on 9/11 and let those sentiments guide you. Some folks are choosing to drive with their car lights on. Others will wear red, white, and blue as statements of unity. God Bless You and God Bless America ! ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) ___________________________________ The Bklyn Info Pages Website: www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ___________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________ The Bklyn Info Pages Website: www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ___________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 9:18:18 -0400 From: <1.judyh@fuse.net> Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on the NYBrooklyn list? To: myperidot@verizon.net, nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com, "'JAH'" <jaherbert@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <9442171.1221139098348.JavaMail.root@wmvirt4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Claudia, BRAVO! That was put beautifully and I couldn't agree more! Judy-Cinti ---- myperidot <myperidot@verizon.net> wrote: > Hi Judy, > > I am writing to you in full view of the entire list. I want you to know up > front that what I say is strictly and I mean this sincerely strictly MY > OPINION. > I have been on many lists since the inception of Roots Web many years ago. > I have been "doing" Genealogy searches here in the USA, the UK, Norway & > Sweden and South Africa and Germany. The premise is on each list, Genealogy > and the list owners stress this along very strongly with no flaming. > If you don't have these rules it goes to just a chitty chat list. No one > wants this as there are hundreds of mailing listS for just these things. So > we all usually go along to get along. > BUT, Sometimes emotions are involved and in this case a very strong emotion, > one that has transcended all the decorum we expect to find. 9-11 shattered > our world, so terribly that no one will ever be the same for it. > So, in our pain we reach out on the anniversary of this horrific tragedy , > to each other, to remind us one and all that we should never forget. > We beat the drums of our patriotism loud and for all to hear and respond to. > No other single act of war has been able to do this to our spirit. Well... > maybe Pearl Harbor. > > I ask you in the spirit of the love of our country and our fellow man to put > aside your aversion to what you are seeing on the list for a few days and > let us come together in the spirit of love, friendship and genealogy to bask > in each other's love of country and recall the lives lost of many of our > listers. > No this is not the place, but Yes, some > rules shatter when horror hits. I remind you this is just me speaking and > if you have issue, do so with me in private. > Thank you for listening. CLAUDIA > -----Original Message----- > From: nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of JAH > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:42 PM > To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BKLYN] Non-genealogy posts - are they allowed on the NYBrooklyn > list? > > Are non-genealogy posts allowed on the list? (Re: FLY the FLAG on > Thursday). > > I'd rather not receive political messages when I subscribe to a subject > specific list. Perhaps the list owner can answer the question for me, and > possibly others. > > Thank you. > > Judy Herbert > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: 1933 Real Genie Brick Wall (Diane Jacobs) > 2. FLY the FLAG Thursday (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) > 3. anyone have a NY Times subscription? (Susan) > 4. Re: anyone have a NY Times subscription? (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) > 5. Re: anyone have a NY Times subscription? (warrior rabbit) > > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:00:09 EDT > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Subject: [BKLYN] FLY the FLAG Thursday > To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c7f.19f6db28.35f859f9@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Thursday is the sad anniversary of terrorists destroying America, as we've > known it. Please join us in this FLY THE FLAG campaign and forward this to > your > address book friends, asking them to pass it on. > > THE PROGRAM: > > On Thursday, September 11th, 2008, display an American flag outside every > home, apartment, office, and store in the United States . Every individual > can make it their duty to display an American flag on this seventh > anniversary of our country's worst travesty. > > This is a gesture of unity to honor those who lost their lives on 9/11, > their families, friends, and loved ones who continue to endure the pain, and > those who are fighting to preserve our cherished freedoms. > > In the days, weeks and months following 9/11, our country was bathed in > American flags as citizens mourned the incredible losses and stood > shoulder-to-shoulder against terrorism. Sadly, those flags have all but > disappeared. Our patriotism pulled us through some tough times and it > shouldn't take another attack to galvanize us in solidarity. Our American > flag represents our country. > Together we can prevail over terrorism of all kinds > > Take a moment to think back to how you felt on 9/11 and let those sentiments > guide you. > > Some folks are choosing to drive with their car lights on. Others will wear > red, white, and blue as statements of unity. > > God Bless You and God Bless America ! > > > > > > ************** > Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the > latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. > > (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) > > > > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:15:37 -0400 From: <1.judyh@fuse.net> Subject: [BKLYN] Ancestry.com Controversey To: Brooklyn Genealogy <NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com>, Brooklyn Genealogy <NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com>, NJ Genealogy <NJESSEX-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <28029597.1221142537860.JavaMail.root@wmvirt4> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi All! I have read with great interest the debate of Ancestry.com's ability, or inability, depending on your personal experience, to keep private records just that, private. I just happened to be in contact with Ancestry's help desk because none of my pictures were available unless I personally invited a guest to view my tree and I wanted to know why. After providing an answer, (which seemed acceptable to me, i.e., it takes them time to index all the pic's) I posed the question about privacy. I am pasting below the response that I received. I am not taking a stand for or against Ancestry.com - simply passing along their explanation for those interested! Thanks, Judy-Cinti Discussion Thread Response (Robert) 09/11/2008 09:32 AM Dear Judy, We appreciate your message. While our filters work 99 percent of the time that still leaves 1% and with a database as large as ours that is enough to cause the stir you are talking about. We are always trying to improve our systems but their is no 100% in software unfortunately. If you have further questions you can contact our privacy department directly at customersolutions@tgn.com. If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us know. Robert Member Solutions Ancestry.com http://ancestry.custhelp.com/ ------------------------------ To contact the NYBROOKLYN list administrator, send an email to NYBROOKLYN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NYBROOKLYN mailing list, send an email to NYBROOKLYN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NYBROOKLYN Digest, Vol 3, Issue 267 ******************************************