Kim, I really encourage you to follow up with the cemetery until you find out who else is buried in the plot with Fred and when they were interred. Ask who owned the plot. It appears that John is buried there with Fred. Sometimes head stones when placed with the first burial; other times they were placed when someone could afford them, and not all names were included. When you know burial dates, you should be able to locate death certificates, and I encourage you to obtain them. My relatives are buried in Holy Cross. They are very helpful & provided info over the phone. The information I received from them really helped me put together the early history of my family in NYC. Denise From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: 03/19/2012 03:29 AM Subject: NYBROOKLYN Digest, Vol 7, Issue 53 Sent by: [email protected] Today's Topics: 1. need help (Kim Hawkins) 2. Re: need help Osterbye ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 14:11:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kim Hawkins <[email protected]> Subject: [BKLYN] need help To: NYC list <[email protected]>, NYBrooklyn NYBrooklyn <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Im having trouble making out the spelling of a name on a document. The document is found on ancestry.com under the name John Osterbye..its a record for the New York, Census of Inmates in Almshouses and Poorhouses, his birthdate is Nov. 13, 1840 and he died Jan 17, 1915 not long after he was put in the poorhouse. There is a name under "names and addresses of relatives" it says "sister anna" then I cant make out the spelling of her last name. she lives at 912 2nd Ave. It looks like hemmigson...or something simular. Can anyone check this out and maybe see if you can make out the name? I found John buried at the All faiths lutheran cemetery and someone took a picture of his headstone for me...his name isnt on the headstone, but the name Fred Osterbye is. I think this was his son but I cant find any info on him. My records say Fred was born in Denmark on January 22, 1867...the headstone says 1869. Fred's full name was Chr. Karl Friederich Theodor ?sterby. John was married twice, first to Dorthea Schaer, she died in 1904, I have a copy of her death cert. I cant find her and John on any census. He married 2nd Frances Huck b. abt. 1871. The poorhouse record says he was widowed so Im assuming she also died before him. I found John and frances on the 1910 census with 3 children who I also cant find anything else on. I did email the cemetery and asked who else was buried in the plot with John, I havent heard back from them yet. If anyone has a little extra time on their hands and has time to take a look at that document It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much. Kim [email protected] ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 21:44:16 -0400 (EDT) From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BKLYN] need help Osterbye To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi Kim, In a message dated 3/18/2012 5:12:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: <<Im having trouble making out the spelling of a name on a document. The document is found on ancestry.com under the name John Osterbye..its a record for the New York, Census of Inmates in Almshouses and Poorhouses, his birthdate is Nov. 13, 1840 and he died Jan 17, 1915 not long after he was put in the poorhouse. There is a name under "names and addresses of relatives" it says "sister anna" then I cant make out the spelling of her last name. she lives at 912 2nd Ave. It looks like hemmigson...or something simular. Can anyone check this out and maybe see if you can make out the name? >> I did find Anna Henningsen 912 2nd ave, NYC in the 1920 Census, widow, age 76 b. DenmarkThe other name, Dora Chapman may be a friend. I did not find one at 500 E. 162 st. <<John was married twice, first to Dorthea Schaer, she died in 1904, I have a copy of her death cert. I cant find her and John on any census. He married 2nd Frances Huck b. abt. 1871. The poorhouse record says he was widowed so Im assuming she also died before him. I found John and frances on the 1910 census with 3 children who I also cant find anything else on>> In 1910 Census, married to Frances = they are married 16 yrs, 5 children, 3 living. Since they were married before Dorthea Schaer died in 1904, he must have been divorced. 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