Re: What paper may have the obituary of a woman who lived in Brooklyn an moved to Queens. To Peggy and Other Listers. My brother lived in Brooklyn and died at the Battle of Esperance when his ship went down during WWII in 1942 That was six years after the family had moved to Queens. The announcement of his death was in the Long Island Daily Press on the front page with a picture of George and my sister on his last visit home in June 1942. The death was October 12th, but the family only received a telegram around Thanksgiving telling them he had died. Pauline Salmon San Diego

I'm trying to locate on obit for my great grandmother who was a long time resident of 75 Stanhope St, Brooklyn and spent her later years in Queens. I found her date of death on GGG as 30 May 1942. What I would like to know is in what newspaper(s) would her obit be posted? Also, how many days after her death would the notification most likely show up in the papers? Her name was Josephine Schaefer and at the time of her death she was a widow and was living in Queens on 215th St with her daughter Mary and son-in-law, Leander Ring. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Peggy

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Dear Friends, How do you interpret the governmental title "Minister for the Diaspora?" -----Original Message----- REPRINT today: The Irish Government is to provide more than $2.2 million (€1.8m) to organizations which support vulnerable Irish emigrants in the United States, Minister for the Diaspora Jimmy Deenihan has announced. Speaking in New York, where he is meeting with Irish community and business groups, the Minister said, “I am delighted to announce the award of Emigrant Support Programme grants to 34 organizations in the US, totaling over €1.8 million ($2.3m) for 2014-2015. This funding will support projects which address the needs of the most disadvantaged and vulnerable Irish emigrants. It will enable Irish emigrants and Irish community organizations to access vital local services as healthcare, education, and housing. We are also funding community-focused services such as the Irish Heritage Club, Seattle which encourage closer links between Irish communities abroad and Ireland, to the benefit of both." The funding is part of the Emigrant Support Programme (ESP), which is managed by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade. This year’s allocation is an increase of 7% on 2013 levels. http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/Irish-emigrants-in- the-US-to-receive-22m-support-says-Minister-for-Diaspora.html

Thanks to Barbie for this lead, as St. Louis had a big Irish population, and German. You can search the St. Louis Post-Dispatch newspaper for Obits here> http://www.slpl.org/slpl/gateways/article240117800.asp Note the Obit numbers, then email a simple request for the Obit to> webref@slpl.org St. Louis Library 1301 Olive Street St. Louis, MO 63103 (314) 241-2288 10am - 9pm Monday-Thursday 10am - 6pm Friday and Saturday 1pm - 5pm Sunday (1st Floor only) Barb

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Dear Friends, If you want to find a ZIP for a family address, go here> http://www.zip-codes.com/free-zip-code-tools.asp Enter the address and the ZIP and other data will surface. For example, Latitude and Longitude which are being used in today's research. Barb

Dear Friends, It's helpful to your research if you understand exactly where your ancestors lived. Run every address that you have through Google, and capture the ZIP. For Manhattan, enter address plus New York, New York. For Brooklyn, enter address plus Brooklyn, New York. ZIP codes can lead you to family neighborhoods, churches, and Wards. Barb

Dear Friends, When you are seeking assistance with a specific ancestor, whether from a list or when working with a genealogist, it really helps if you cut and paste *known* records into your post, like this Manhattan Marriage Certificate info> Clark Annie K Aug 29 1876 5221 (1876) Manhattan 1562178 Hannoway, Samuel This MC says more in a succinct way, even when surnames are misspelled. PLUS+ You can also use these transcribed vital records in a folder online, for easy retrieval of information. Barb

Thanks to all who replied to my query, Barb, Sheila, Donald and Patricia. This is the first time I have posted to this group, though I have received the posts on a daily basis for a couple of years. It is obviously a very helpful group. I do have the death record for John on Apr 1,1895 but it does not give parent's names. That may have started later. I will check out some of the other suggestions. I have used Steve Morse's site and found it very helpful. A lot of work has gone into that site. Your suggestions have been most appreciated. Nancy Sent from my iPad

If it's any help, there are four public trees on Ancestry for John Morrow and family. One notes that he was living in Scotland in 1871, which of course would need to be confirmed. In another one of the trees, his wife Agnes is said to have been born in Co. Down and her parents' names are provided; there seems to be documentation for this. Best wishes, Patricia Phelan Member, Assn. of Professional Genealogists (www.apgen.org) -----Original Message----- From: nybrooklyn-request <nybrooklyn-request@rootsweb.com> To: nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jan 8, 2015 3:17 am Subject: NYBROOKLYN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 6 Today's Topics: 1. Morrow, John Death (N Schaalje) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 13:49:10 -0700 (MST) From: N Schaalje <schaaln@shaw.ca> Subject: [BKLYN] Morrow, John Death To: NYBROOKLYN@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <148039110.128371122.1420663750576.JavaMail.root@cds056> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Barb, thanks for the "Bare Bone Facts" which I did print off and have checked some of the links you provided. Wish I had this list when I muddled through my first attempt at finding some relatives who live in Brooklyn. The Family in question is John Morrow born about 1841 in Ireland. Died 1 Apr 1895 age 54 - Sources: Letter from his sister-in-law and Green Wood Cemetery Records. At the time of his death he was living at 54 India street, Brooklyn. The cemetery record states he died in M E Hospital. The only hospital I could find that might fit that is Mount Eden in the Bronx, no longer in existence. I would like to find a death certificate for him, hoping it may give his parent's names. I would also like to find his marriage certificate to Agnes McClurg (lots of different spellings on birth certificates of children - McLeod, McLoud, McCloudet, McCloud.) Using the 1880 and 1900 census I find the first child Jane was born between 1867 and 1870. Also according to the census his wife came to the US from Ireland in 1865. So marriage was probably between 1866 and 1870 Using Steve Morse' site I have found the birth certificates for the last 7 of the 11 children: Agnes 1875 - 100 Huron Street, Greenpoint, Kings; John 1877 - 100 Huron Street Female 1879 - 100 Huron Street This child may have been named Margaret (age 5/12 in 1880 census John Francis 1884 - 54 India Street, Brooklyn John Russel 1887 - Same Frank B 1889 - Same I have not as yet round the birth record for the first 4 children Jane born about Sept 1869 James H born about 1870 Maria M born about 1873 Agnes W born about Oct 1874 Any suggestions you or any member of the group may have that would help would be appreciated. I live in western Canada, so research in New York is not an option for me. Thank you Nancy ------------------------------

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Nancy, On the Italian Genealogy web site (IGG), the records show a certificate exists for John Morrow who died April 1, 1895 in Kings County. The Cert # is 5909. This record might give you a better indication of the hospital where he died. Possibly also his parents' names. You can get this record from the Municipal Archives either by walking in, by mail or FAX. You can also get a copy of the record from a Family History Library by ordering the film which pertains to this name, date, and Borough. There are no Morrow births on IGG for the time period you indicate. It was not unusual for parents to fail filing a record. Baptismal certificates may be your only recourse Sheila

Barb, thanks for the "Bare Bone Facts" which I did print off and have checked some of the links you provided. Wish I had this list when I muddled through my first attempt at finding some relatives who live in Brooklyn. The Family in question is John Morrow born about 1841 in Ireland. Died 1 Apr 1895 age 54 - Sources: Letter from his sister-in-law and Green Wood Cemetery Records. At the time of his death he was living at 54 India street, Brooklyn. The cemetery record states he died in M E Hospital. The only hospital I could find that might fit that is Mount Eden in the Bronx, no longer in existence. I would like to find a death certificate for him, hoping it may give his parent's names. I would also like to find his marriage certificate to Agnes McClurg (lots of different spellings on birth certificates of children - McLeod, McLoud, McCloudet, McCloud.) Using the 1880 and 1900 census I find the first child Jane was born between 1867 and 1870. Also according to the census his wife came to the US from Ireland in 1865. So marriage was probably between 1866 and 1870 Using Steve Morse' site I have found the birth certificates for the last 7 of the 11 children: Agnes 1875 - 100 Huron Street, Greenpoint, Kings; John 1877 - 100 Huron Street Female 1879 - 100 Huron Street This child may have been named Margaret (age 5/12 in 1880 census John Francis 1884 - 54 India Street, Brooklyn John Russel 1887 - Same Frank B 1889 - Same I have not as yet round the birth record for the first 4 children Jane born about Sept 1869 James H born about 1870 Maria M born about 1873 Agnes W born about Oct 1874 Any suggestions you or any member of the group may have that would help would be appreciated. I live in western Canada, so research in New York is not an option for me. Thank you Nancy

Click on the links, then search database via tabs. That simple. EARLY BROOKLYN & QUEENS BIRTHS http://italiangen.org/records-search/births_early_town.php EARLY BROOKLYN & QUEENS MARRIAGES http://italiangen.org/records-search/marriages_early_town.php EARLY BROOKLYN & QUEENS DEATHS http://italiangen.org/records-search/deaths_early_town.php

Great Point, Virginia, but the site included the details about Brooklyn old towns in the section called "Notes," way below. That's what prompted me to add info about other counties. Barb -----Original Message----- From: VLB via <nyqueens@rootsweb.com> To: mizscarlettny <mizscarlettny@aol.com>; NY-IRISH <NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com>; NYNEWYOR <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com>; NYBrooklyn <NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; NYQUEENS <NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com>; ny-irish <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jan 6, 2015 4:13 pm Subject: Re: [NYQUEENS] [NY-IRISH] NYC MUNI ARCH BMD "Holdings" Barb, One more thing for your good list. Before 1898, Brooklyn consisted of Brooklyn itself and some of the original Dutch towns, such as New Utrecht. If you can't find your event in "Brooklyn", be sure to check the old Dutch towns. This is true well into the 1890s and not all clerks at NYC's Department of Records know it. Virginia From: mizscarlettny via <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> To: NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com; NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com; NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 5:15 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] NYC MUNI ARCH BMD "Holdings" Dear Friends, Every so often we need a reminder of research basics. So, here's one about the NYC Municipal Archives "Holdings" for Births, Marriages & Deaths, only. BARE BONE FACTS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO PRINT * The county name is the most important fact you need. * NYC records cannot be obtained from NY State. * 1898: 5 counties consolidated into "Greater NYC." Prior, Brooklyn & New York [kinda Manhattan] were separate cities. * BMD's exist for Brooklyn & NY prior to 1866, but are not indexed. Many are microfilms of ledgers, i.e . midwife ledgers. * Richmond/Staten Island records may include New Jersey events, especially Marriage "licenses" [differs from certificates]. * Bronx records can be frustrating. A clear date helps. Some areas were once part of Westchester County. * Death certificates are filed in the county of death, not necessarily in the county of residence. * The NYC Municipal Archives only produces "certified" copies. * When ordering a "search," include all surname spelling variations. * They charge for searches of additional boroughs, and additional years, plus shipping. * When ordering by mail, include your phone # [add to forms] and a SASE. It makes responding easier. May all your leads be good ones. Barb Birth, death and marriage records are filed and indexed according to the locality (Borough) in which the event occurred Birth Records Borough Dates Available Manhattan - July 1847 - 1848 - July 1853 - 1909 Brooklyn - 1866 - 1909 Bronx - 1898 - 1909 Queens - 1898 - 1909 Richmond (Staten Island) - 1898 - 1909 Death Records Borough Dates Available Manhattan - 1795 - 1802-1804 - 1808 - 1812-1948 Brooklyn - 1847-1853 - 1857-1948 Bronx - 1898 - 1948 Queens - 1898 - 1948 Richmond (Staten Island) - 1898 - 1948 Marriage Records Borough Dates Available Manhattan - July 1847 - 1848 - July 1853 - 1937 Brooklyn - 1866 - 1937 Bronx - 1898 - 1937 Queens - 1898 - 1937 Richmond (Staten Island) - 1898 - 1937 Notes There are separate marriage and death records for Kings County's OLD TOWNS: Flatbush, 1847-1851, 1880-1894; Flatlands, 1880-1895; Gravesend, 1880-1894; New Lots, 1881-1886; and New Utrecht, 1880-1894. BRONX: The Bronx did not exist as a separate Borough until 1898. NYC (Manhattan) annexed the area west of the Bronx River in 1874 and annexed the area east of the Bronx River in 1985. For vital records in those areas after the date of annexation through 1897, request a search of Manhattan records. Pre-consolidation Town and Village vital records 1847-1849, 1881-1897; and Long Island City 1871-1897 Pre-consolidation Town and Village vital records, 1847-1849, 1881-1897 SOURCE> http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/archives/holdings.shtml ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYQUEENS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, Every so often we need a reminder of research basics. So, here's one about the NYC Municipal Archives "Holdings" for Births, Marriages & Deaths, only. BARE BONE FACTS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO PRINT * The county name is the most important fact you need. * NYC records cannot be obtained from NY State. * 1898: 5 counties consolidated into "Greater NYC." Prior, Brooklyn & New York [kinda Manhattan] were separate cities. * BMD's exist for Brooklyn & NY prior to 1866, but are not indexed. Many are microfilms of ledgers, i.e . midwife ledgers. * Richmond/Staten Island records may include New Jersey events, especially Marriage "licenses" [differs from certificates]. * Bronx records can be frustrating. A clear date helps. Some areas were once part of Westchester County. * Death certificates are filed in the county of death, not necessarily in the county of residence. * The NYC Municipal Archives only produces "certified" copies. * When ordering a "search," include all surname spelling variations. * They charge for searches of additional boroughs, and additional years, plus shipping. * When ordering by mail, include your phone # [add to forms] and a SASE. It makes responding easier. May all your leads be good ones. Barb Birth, death and marriage records are filed and indexed according to the locality (Borough) in which the event occurred Birth Records Borough Dates Available Manhattan - July 1847 - 1848 - July 1853 - 1909 Brooklyn - 1866 - 1909 Bronx - 1898 - 1909 Queens - 1898 - 1909 Richmond (Staten Island) - 1898 - 1909 Death Records Borough Dates Available Manhattan - 1795 - 1802-1804 - 1808 - 1812-1948 Brooklyn - 1847-1853 - 1857-1948 Bronx - 1898 - 1948 Queens - 1898 - 1948 Richmond (Staten Island) - 1898 - 1948 Marriage Records Borough Dates Available Manhattan - July 1847 - 1848 - July 1853 - 1937 Brooklyn - 1866 - 1937 Bronx - 1898 - 1937 Queens - 1898 - 1937 Richmond (Staten Island) - 1898 - 1937 Notes There are separate marriage and death records for Kings County's OLD TOWNS: Flatbush, 1847-1851, 1880-1894; Flatlands, 1880-1895; Gravesend, 1880-1894; New Lots, 1881-1886; and New Utrecht, 1880-1894. BRONX: The Bronx did not exist as a separate Borough until 1898. NYC (Manhattan) annexed the area west of the Bronx River in 1874 and annexed the area east of the Bronx River in 1985. For vital records in those areas after the date of annexation through 1897, request a search of Manhattan records. Pre-consolidation Town and Village vital records 1847-1849, 1881-1897; and Long Island City 1871-1897 Pre-consolidation Town and Village vital records, 1847-1849, 1881-1897 SOURCE> http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/archives/holdings.shtml

If you need an OBIT, especially from Booklyn and Queens, post mail the Queensborough Library. Enclose a short note. Include your phone number, a check for $8. and a self addressed stamped envelope. Barb Obituary and Death Notice Requests The Archives at Queens Library conducts obituary and death notice searches for customers. When submitting a request please follow these instructions. Include the complete name of the individual(s). If the surname has an unusual spelling please provide variant spellings. Include the complete date of death including day, month and year. Requests that include only the month and year will be returned. Information found in the Social Security Death Index will sometimes include a complete date of death; sometimes it only includes the month and year. There is a fee of $8.00 US per name. Please make the check or money order payable to the Queens Library. Customers are limited to three names per request. The fee(s) is nonrefundable. Turnaround time is 5 to 10 business days upon receipt of request and payment. The mailing address is: Queens Library Archives at Queens Library 89-11 Merrick Boulevard Jamaica, N.Y. 11432 Please be sure to include the name Archives at Queens Library. Without it the Archives’s response will be delayed. For more information please call (718) 990-0770 https://www.queenslibrary.org/research/archives/obituary-n-death-notice-requests

Hope everyone had a lovely Christmas and New Years. The last month of December was quiet, but we still added some nice items. The Repeal Contributors are especially interesting because they give the name of the county for the Contributor! GENERAL IRELAND, Genealogy Archives - Newspapers Freemans Journal, 19 Mar 1844 Repeal in America- Sydney, Cape Breton Freemans Journal, 19 March 1844 Repeal in America, Charleston Freemans Journal, 3 October 1843 Repeal in America, Niagara District Freemans Journal, 19 March 1844 Repeal in America, Chicago, Halifax & Miramichi Freemans Journal, 21 April 1843 Repeal in America, Philadelphia Freemans Journal, 25 May 1843 Repeal in America, New York http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/countrywide/news.htm CAVAN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones St. Peters, Templeport (part) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cavan/photos/tombstones/markers.htm CORK, Genealogy Archives - Photos COLTHURST (nee AHERN?) and O'FLYNN photos http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cork/photos.htm DONEGAL, Genealogy Archives - Vital Records Assorted deaths - 1869 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/donegal/deaths.htm DUBLIN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Mt Jerome Cemetery, Dublin - Part 93 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-ndx.htm FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Church Records Muckross, St. John's (CoI) Marriages 1869-1899 Muckross, St. John's (CoI) Burials 1892-1899 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/church.htm MEATH, Genealogy Archives - Cemetery Knock Graveyard (Memorials) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/meath/cem.htm ' SLIGO, Genealogy Archives - Photos Toormour Abbey Plaque & Board http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/sligo/photos.htm TYRONE, Genealogy Archives - Miscellaneous Subsidy Rolls Parish of Termont M'Goork Parish, 1666 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tyrone/misc.htm Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ https://www.facebook.com/IrelandGenealogyProjects Follow us on Twitter: @IrishGenProject ===============================

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