> Is this a sign of the times or a priority of the "text-me generation." This is a sign of Republican comtempt for education in general and knowledge in particular and follows continuing budget cuts in the name of "austerity" and devil take the hindmost since at least Ronald Reagan. The chickens are coming home to roost.

The Oregon State Library RESEARCH ROOM was closing in October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pieterse <rdpiet@aol.com> To: mizscarlettny <mizscarlettny@aol.com>; nyqueens <nyqueens@rootsweb.com>; NYNEWYOR <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com>; nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; NYNASSAU <NYNASSAU@rootsweb.com>; nywestch <nywestch@rootsweb.com>; deesgenes1 <deesgenes1@yahoo.com>; NY-IRISH <NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 8:34 pm Subject: Re: [NYQUEENS] ARIZONA State Library Devalues Genealogy---Responses? The Oregon State library is not closed Oregon State Library 250 Winter St. NE Salem, Oregon 97301-3950 Phone: 503-378-4243 Fax: 503-585-8059 Building Hours: 8 - 5 (Monday - Friday) Public Access to Collections: 1 - 4 (Monday - Friday) Talking Books: 9 - 12 and 1 - 4 (Monday - Friday) AZ is down sizing Not closed either. so what is the bug deal. . That hardly means the same books are no longer available -----Original Message----- From: mizscarlettny via <nyqueens@rootsweb.com> To: NYNEWYOR <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com>; nybrooklyn <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>; NYNASSAU <NYNASSAU@rootsweb.com>; nywestch <nywestch@rootsweb.com>; NYQUEENS <NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com>; deesgenes1 <deesgenes1@yahoo.com>; NY-IRISH <NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Aug 15, 2015 7:54 pm Subject: [NYQUEENS] ARIZONA State Library Devalues Genealogy---Responses? Dear Friends, Out of state researchers complain about how tightly New York controls who gets what records. My response is: At least we have records, and repositories that value them. But, I'll add to that...so far. What in the heck is going on in the "Wild West?" We're not talking about private libraries, Folks. First, Loreen Wells reported that The Oregon State Library research room was closing in October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature whose mind was made up. Public outcries went to deaf ears, or perhaps more accurately stated, landed on absent ears. Now, the Arizona State Library is following suit? Dee, would you please respond to all from AZ? Is this a sign of the times or a priority of the "text-me generation." Please share your views. Story from Dick Eastman folows. Barb -------------------- "Chairman of Arizona Library Advisory Board Resigns following Genealogy Library's Changes." Dick Eastman · August 9, 2015 · Legal Affairs · 9 Comments Without warning and without enough time for the public to file comments, Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan recently moved the state library’s genealogy collection to a much smaller facility with only two bookshelves, holding a fraction of the books previously available to all. The move brought howls of protests from the genealogy community. (See my earlier articles at http://goo.gl/HChkUO and at http://goo.gl/mdTkwf for details.) The Secretary of State also laid off four employees of the state library at the same time. Genealogists are not the only ones protesting the abrupt and unannounced changes. Catherine May, Chairman of the State Library’s Advisory Board, has resigned in protest. “I just don’t want my name tied to Secretary Reagan,” May said. “I don’t trust what they’ve done.” Details may be found in an article by Mary Jo Pitzl in The Republic‘s web site at http://goo.gl/VBkw9q. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYQUEENS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, Out of state researchers complain about how tightly New York controls who gets what records. My response is: At least we have records, and repositories that value them. But, I'll add to that...so far. What in the heck is going on in the "Wild West?" We're not talking about private libraries, Folks. First, Loreen Wells reported that The Oregon State Library research room was closing in October 2014 due to budget cuts demanded by the Oregon Legislature whose mind was made up. Public outcries went to deaf ears, or perhaps more accurately stated, landed on absent ears. Now, the Arizona State Library is following suit? Dee, would you please respond to all from AZ? Is this a sign of the times or a priority of the "text-me generation." Please share your views. Story from Dick Eastman folows. Barb -------------------- "Chairman of Arizona Library Advisory Board Resigns following Genealogy Library's Changes." Dick Eastman · August 9, 2015 · Legal Affairs · 9 Comments Without warning and without enough time for the public to file comments, Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan recently moved the state library’s genealogy collection to a much smaller facility with only two bookshelves, holding a fraction of the books previously available to all. The move brought howls of protests from the genealogy community. (See my earlier articles at http://goo.gl/HChkUO and at http://goo.gl/mdTkwf for details.) The Secretary of State also laid off four employees of the state library at the same time. Genealogists are not the only ones protesting the abrupt and unannounced changes. Catherine May, Chairman of the State Library’s Advisory Board, has resigned in protest. “I just don’t want my name tied to Secretary Reagan,” May said. “I don’t trust what they’ve done.” Details may be found in an article by Mary Jo Pitzl in The Republic‘s web site at http://goo.gl/VBkw9q.

Are you using NEW or Old ancestry? How to tell I have gotten many private emails since my post yesterday and realized a LOT of folks are still using the OLD version and don't realize they have to INTENTIONALLY sign on to the NEW version to see all the changes they have made. Ancestry has been VERY sneaky about this change. NO ONE got an email about the changes. The quickest way to tell is do a family view...if the background is WHITE you are still on the old version. If your profile page looks the same as it always has, you are still on the OLD version. The NEW ancestry has a black background on the family view. The NEW ancestry profile page is set up MUCH differently. To get to the NEW version to see what everyone is upset about, go to the upper R corner of ancestry where you see your user name and click on NEW Only then can you see the changes that have been made. Even then you cannot tell alll the problems unless you try to move around in it, do various functions you used to do to find all the problems with it. If you are still in the OLD version and everything looks like it always has-you are going to be in for the shock of your life when you sign on someday and you cannot see the ancestry we all know. I highly recommend anyone on ancestry do this--and really put the news view through it's paces... MOST people are NOT going to like what they see...and forget about all the handy functions you used to use--like printing a profile page (now called the FACTS page) Forget about trying to view the transcript version of a Census you have added, you can't Check out your story view--many people are finding the towns their ancestors are from are not recognized by ancestry computers so your ancestor who lived in "timbuctoo" may suddenly be living in New Zealand--I found one of MY folks there who lived in New York City If you find yourself liking the NEW version-I am happy for you. Make sure to put it through EVERY pace you can think of before deciding. The petition circulating is only asking that they offer BOTH methods of working in ancestry. again, here is the petition link...be sure you look at what boxes are auto checked and uncheck the ones you don't want. IF you accidentally get subscribed to the petition site, simply click on unsubscribe in the first email you get from them. I hope this clears up the confusion about WHY so many of us are upset Here is the petition website in case you deleted the email. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/600/803/575/save-ancestrycom-classic/ Joyce -- Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, Norton, Gerard, and many more...

---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 14:52:04 -0700 From: Joyce Presnall <wldgrdnr@gmail.com> Subject: [NYKINGS] PLEASE help your fellow researchers to continue to do GOOD research To: NYKINGS@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAM165xAV4L2XBhP9hUckip8FyoFG6hZY-MeKef3_B0n2tCAFjQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 PLEASE help your fellow researchers to continue to do GOOD research The Petition is to ask Ancestry.com to keep "OLD" ancestry as an alternative. After a lot of us filed complaints about the NEW ancestry.com being horrible (and if you are serious about research it is--they have taken away a LOT of functions and made things a LOT more difficult to do there) and seeing they are ignoring us, someone has started a petition hoping Ancestry.com will listen to us. You do NOT need to be an ancestry.com member to sign this petition, so even if YOU don't use it, please try to help those of us that do by signing the petition and passing on the link for it to everyone you know. Last I checked we only had 1700 signatures which is NOT going to be enough to get them to listen to us "old timers". The NEW ancestry makes it more difficult to search, print and so many other functions don't work well either. Please help out your fellow researchers by signing and passing it on. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/600/803/575/save-ancestrycom-classic/ Thank you! Joyce

DONE!!! Hope they bother to read it. Between Ancestry and Ellis Island, research has become more and more frustrating! Dolores In a message dated 8/12/2015 5:55:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com writes: I know it would be difficult but if you were to identify the areas that present difficulty...identify those things they've taken away...and how, specifically, they've created a horrible situation they may be more apt to examine those areas...look for "fixes" and even ask users to offer recommendations to remedy the faults. Without specifics they will probably ignore the "malcontents".... Just saying... Best regards, Judie Cook On Aug 12, 2015 5:28 PM, "Joyce Presnall via" <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The Petition is to ask Ancestry.com to keep "OLD" ancestry as an > alternative. > > > After a lot of us filed complaints about the NEW ancestry.com being > horrible (and if you are serious about research it is--they have taken away > a LOT of functions and made things a LOT more difficult to do there) and > seeing they are ignoring us, someone has started a petition hoping > Ancestry.com will listen to us. > > You do NOT need to be an ancestry.com member to sign this petition, so > even > if YOU don't use it, please try to help those of us that do by signing the > petition and passing on the link for it to everyone you know. > > Last I checked we only had 1700 signatures which is NOT going to be enough > to get them to listen to us "old timers". The NEW ancestry makes it more > difficult to search, print and so many other functions don't work well > either. > > Please help out your fellow researchers by signing and passing it on. > > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/600/803/575/save-ancestrycom-classic/ > > Thank you! > > Joyce > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know it would be difficult but if you were to identify the areas that present difficulty...identify those things they've taken away...and how, specifically, they've created a horrible situation they may be more apt to examine those areas...look for "fixes" and even ask users to offer recommendations to remedy the faults. Without specifics they will probably ignore the "malcontents".... Just saying... Best regards, Judie Cook On Aug 12, 2015 5:28 PM, "Joyce Presnall via" <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The Petition is to ask Ancestry.com to keep "OLD" ancestry as an > alternative. > > > After a lot of us filed complaints about the NEW ancestry.com being > horrible (and if you are serious about research it is--they have taken away > a LOT of functions and made things a LOT more difficult to do there) and > seeing they are ignoring us, someone has started a petition hoping > Ancestry.com will listen to us. > > You do NOT need to be an ancestry.com member to sign this petition, so > even > if YOU don't use it, please try to help those of us that do by signing the > petition and passing on the link for it to everyone you know. > > Last I checked we only had 1700 signatures which is NOT going to be enough > to get them to listen to us "old timers". The NEW ancestry makes it more > difficult to search, print and so many other functions don't work well > either. > > Please help out your fellow researchers by signing and passing it on. > > http://www.thepetitionsite.com/600/803/575/save-ancestrycom-classic/ > > Thank you! > > Joyce > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Petition is to ask Ancestry.com to keep "OLD" ancestry as an alternative. After a lot of us filed complaints about the NEW ancestry.com being horrible (and if you are serious about research it is--they have taken away a LOT of functions and made things a LOT more difficult to do there) and seeing they are ignoring us, someone has started a petition hoping Ancestry.com will listen to us. You do NOT need to be an ancestry.com member to sign this petition, so even if YOU don't use it, please try to help those of us that do by signing the petition and passing on the link for it to everyone you know. Last I checked we only had 1700 signatures which is NOT going to be enough to get them to listen to us "old timers". The NEW ancestry makes it more difficult to search, print and so many other functions don't work well either. Please help out your fellow researchers by signing and passing it on. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/600/803/575/save-ancestrycom-classic/ Thank you! Joyce

Does anyone have access to older obituaries from Newsday, which is a Long Island newspaper? I need one from 2001 and my 2 sources only seem to go back to 2003. GenealogyBank -Newsday (Long Island, New York) Recent Newspaper Obituaries (2004 - Current) Newsday's online search tool, appears to go back to 2003. The obituary that I need is GEISLER, Gertrude C (HOLFELDER); 91; Stony Brook NY; Newsday; 2001-2-19 Thanks in advance for any help. Gail

Has the new ancestry settled down? I’ve resisted trying it due to earlier comments. Is it time to try it? Kathy

There are actually *663* hits - 557 if you restrict to just the Brooklyn Eagle. The ad I quoted (and another: "ideal home aged, convalescents; spacious rooms; registered nurses") apparently ran daily for years. Beyond that all I saw was the occasional mention in a death notice of someone passing away there. But I may have missed something, as scrolling through 600 hits can make your vision blur. Gerald, was the one you saw worth finding? Kathleen On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Gerald Tobin via <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I only came across 1 that wasn’t an adv. > > > > > On Aug 8, 2015, at 11:27 PM, mizscarlettny via <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > There are 163 "hits" at historical newspapers via Fulton postcards, > > using exact phrase from drop down menu> > > > > > > http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html > > > > Barb > >

I only came across 1 that wasn’t an adv. > On Aug 8, 2015, at 11:27 PM, mizscarlettny via <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Kathleen, > > There are 163 "hits" at historical newspapers via Fulton postcards, > using exact phrase from drop down menu> > > > http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html > > Barb > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor via <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> > > I recently received a death certificate revealing thatmygreat-great-grandmother died in 1949 in the White Nursing Home inBrooklyn.All I can find about it is a 1943 classified ad in the BrooklynEaglegiving the address as 2739 Bedford Ave., and describing it ashaving"Cheerful rooms, home atmosphere, excellent food and care.Licensed." I'd like to know more about it, if anyone can share anyinformation.Kathleen > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kathleen, There are 163 "hits" at historical newspapers via Fulton postcards, using exact phrase from drop down menu> http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html Barb -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor via <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> I recently received a death certificate revealing thatmygreat-great-grandmother died in 1949 in the White Nursing Home inBrooklyn.All I can find about it is a 1943 classified ad in the BrooklynEaglegiving the address as 2739 Bedford Ave., and describing it ashaving"Cheerful rooms, home atmosphere, excellent food and care.Licensed." I'd like to know more about it, if anyone can share anyinformation.Kathleen

I recently received a death certificate revealing that my great-great-grandmother died in 1949 in the White Nursing Home in Brooklyn. All I can find about it is a 1943 classified ad in the Brooklyn Eagle giving the address as 2739 Bedford Ave., and describing it as having "Cheerful rooms, home atmosphere, excellent food and care. Licensed." I'd like to know more about it, if anyone can share any information. Kathleen

Sunday, August 9 "Who Do You Think You Are?" Focus: Actress Alfre Woodward 9pm eastern Channnel: 28 metro NYC http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/who-do-you-think-you-are/videos/alfre-woodard/

Who Do You Think You Are? Episode 2 J.K. ROWLINGS (author or Harry Potter series) Author J.K. Rowling stumbles upon a family mystery on a journey to uncover her maternal French roots Channel: TLC aka 28 in Metro NYC *NOTE: Last week's episode precedes tonight's, an hour earlier

Lots of new Headstones added this month. Especially for Sligo. We have added additional records for funerals from J. & C. Nichols in Dublin. These are the files added in July: IRELAND Countrywide, Cemeteries J. & C. Nichols Ltd, Funerals 1919-1928 (Updated) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/countrywide/cemeteries/nichols.htm DUBLIN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Deansgrange Cem. Headstones, St. Patrick's Section, pt 23 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/deansgrange-ndx.htm DUBLIN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Mount Jerome Headstones. Parts 107 & 108 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-ndx.htm FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Ardess, St Mary Ardess Church Cem. (updated) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/photos/tombstones/markers.htm FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Church Records Maguiresbridge Births 1841-1899 (Pts 1 & 2) Maguiresbridge CoI Burials 1842-1895 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/church.htm LEITRIM, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Corry Graveyard (partial) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/markers.htm SLIGO, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Court Abbey Headstones - Section A Drumcliffe Cem. Headstones - Part 1 Kilmacshalgan Cem. (Sections D & E) Templeronan New Graveyard Tubbercurry, St. George (CoI) (partial) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/sligo/photos/tombstones/markers.htm TIPPERARY, Genealogy Archives - Newspaper Return of Inquests 12 Sep 1849 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/news.htm WESTMEATH, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Church of the Assumption, Delvin - Interior http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/westmeath/photos/tombstones/markers.htm WICKLOW, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Askanagap Graveyard - Church & Memorials http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/markers.htm Regards Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

Dear Friends, This is today's news pertaining to closing Roman Catholic Churches within the Archdiocese of New York. The Archdiocese of NY includes the following counties: New York, Richmond/Staten Island, Bronx, Westchester, Putnam, Rockland, Dutchess, Ulster and Sullivan. I've deducted there are two types of closures from CBS News: TYPE 1 Parish closures, or "fade outs": Right column churches will only be used on special occasions, and will MERGE with the left column churches that become the main parishes, marked by an asterisk* https://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/parish_list_2_final_-_one_church_103114_2.pdf TYPE 2 Parish closures: Borth right and left column churches will continue to have masses and sacraments, but MERGE with left column churches that become the main parishes, marked by an asterisk* https://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/parish_list_1_final_-_both_churches_103114_2.pdf In the past, Archdiocesan records were moved from one closed church to its sister/surviving parish. But, I've not read anything about transferring records...yet. Genealogists may want to postpone requesting sacramental records until the dust settles. If anyone has more information, please post on list. Barb

Thanks very much, Larry. This is great news! Glad to see you posting after such a longtime. Take care, Barb -----Original Message----- From: Larry Lanzaro via <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> To: Joyce via Presnall <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2015 4:45 pm Subject: [BKLYN] SSDI on Ancestry.com For those of you with access to Ancestry.com, they just expanded the info they have from the Social Security Death Index. They now have the place of birth and the names of the parents. This appears to be the additional information from the original SS5 applications that the original index did not provide. Larry Lanzaro ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

SSA-721 is the Social Security form "Statement of Death by Funeral Director." "Neptune Soc" is the Neptune Society, a cremation society. On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Albert L. Bailey <k8six@comcast.net> wrote: > Thank You Thank You Thank You > > I was able to determine from these records that both my cousins in NY are > deceased and when they passed away. I was also able to determine her > married name. SO now for the hunt for any family. I know she had at least > one daughter. > > This site is amazing. > > BTW Her record has a Death Certificate Number which says, "SSA721 NEPTUNE > SOC". Anybody have an idea what that is and if it will help at all? > > Now I won't be able to sleep tonight. :) :) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto: > nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mark Lomax via > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 7:57 PM > To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BKLYN] SSDI on Ancestry.com > > ​It is not an expansion of the SSDI database. It is a totally different > database of applications and claims filed with Social Security. It is a > much smaller database than the SSDI, but it contains a lot more genealogy > information, including in many cases birthplaces, parents' names, and name > changes (e.g., after a marriage). I have located a number of people in the > new database who, though dead, are not listed in the SSDI, because they > died before the SSDI was established in the early 1960s. Also, though you > cannot do searches on maiden names in the SSDI, you can do so in the new > database. > > The name of the new database is "U.S., Social Security Applications and > Claims Index, 1936-2007." > > It's a very useful database. It's helped me break through brick walls for > several people I am researching. > > Mark Lomax > Pasadena, CA > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Larry Lanzaro via < > nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > For those of you with access to Ancestry.com, they just expanded the > > info they have from the Social Security Death Index. They now have the > > place of birth and the names of the parents. This appears to be the > > additional information from the original SS5 applications that the > > original index did not provide. > > > > Larry Lanzaro > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >