Hi slc swtx, At 11:33 AM 5/10/2008, you wrote: >Search those collaateral lines as they can sometimes be a treasure >chest of family info. How correct you are. That is why I am amazed at the reluctance of so many folks to do a one time "post and forget" of all of their collateral, as well as main lines on the Lost Cousins web site. It is FREE to post, and due to their unique matching method, any tie in is virtually 100% sure to be a cousin, or information posted by the administrator of a "one name study". http://www.lostcousins.com/ You simply post your information from one of the supported census years and do a search. Any tie ins will be reflected immediately. Then you just sit back and wait for that wonderful e-mail telling you that someone else has posted the exact same line as you. Many folks get discouraged when they don't receive hundreds of "hits", like many other sites, but that is the REAL beauty of Lost Cousins. When you get a tie in, it is a TIE IN. Just my two cents. If you are connected to ANY of my lines, you will get an immediate hit! I am a firm believer!! :-) :-) Regards to all, Joe (swtx)
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Rev. Stephen Headley Meeker was the pastor of the Bushwick Dutch Reformed Church in Brooklyn from 1830 to 1876. He is mentioned at http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Worship/BklynReformedDutchRecords.html and on page 19 of http://images.rca.org/docs/archives/hdchurches.pdf and on page 239 of http://images.rca.org/docs/archives/hdministers.pdf . I found the last two websites through http://www.rca.org/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?pid=1853&srcid=230 . Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY JAH <jaherbert@frontiernet.net> wrote: Hello Listers, I found an entry that I think is the death register entry for my 3rd g-gf, in microfilm of the NYC Death Register, 1843-47. What it shows for burial location and sexton is: "Dutch Refd. Meeker" "J.B. Herring" I haven't had any luck so far with the usual resources, in identifying where this church/cemetery would have been. It isn't one of the Dutch Reformed churches in any o of the lists I've seen. The deceased lived at 143 Hammond, which was in the 9th Ward. Does anyone know where this church/cemetery was located, and where I could find information on who may have the burial records for the 1847 timeframe? Thanks for any help you can provide. Judy H ___________________________________ The Bklyn Info Pages Website: www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ___________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Hello Listers, I found an entry that I think is the death register entry for my 3rd g-gf, in microfilm of the NYC Death Register, 1843-47. What it shows for burial location and sexton is: "Dutch Refd. Meeker" "J.B. Herring" I haven't had any luck so far with the usual resources, in identifying where this church/cemetery would have been. It isn't one of the Dutch Reformed churches in any o of the lists I've seen. The deceased lived at 143 Hammond, which was in the 9th Ward. Does anyone know where this church/cemetery was located, and where I could find information on who may have the burial records for the 1847 timeframe? Thanks for any help you can provide. Judy H
> Hi Barb, I do have his naturalization papers, but THANK YOU for taking the time to do a search for me! Joseph HERRSCHAFT was also the witness on Andrew's father's naturalization papers several years earlier. In a few censuses they are right next to one another. And there were HERRSCHAFTs from the same town in France (Seltz). I wonder if they are related some how? Haven't been able to track this family though. Andrew's father's (also named Andrew) paper work is mis-indexed because the clerk wrote Anthony on some of the papers. I know it's Andrew because some of the papers say Andrew, the HERRSCHAFT connection and Andrew's signature matches his will and also these new documents I just received from France (the vitals mentioned in my earlier post). Does anyone know how I could go about getting the index changed or at least a message posted to it saying there is an error? (for future researchers). - Mimi Fair Oaks, CA > > Have you gotten Andrew's Naturalization papers from NARA? > > Barb > N of NYC >
My guess is the site is down. I just tried the Brooklyn Eagle and got an error report. I would try it again tomorrow.> From: raymacmahon@bellsouth.net> To: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 19:47:08 -0400> Subject: [BKLYN] Brooklyn Public Library> > List,> > I cannot access the Brooklyn Public Library and/or The Brooklyn Daily Eagle. > Even Google can't find them. What is going on?> > Ray in Georgia > > > ___________________________________> > The Bklyn Info Pages Website:> www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/> > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com> > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> ___________________________________> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_messenger_052008
List, I cannot access the Brooklyn Public Library and/or The Brooklyn Daily Eagle. Even Google can't find them. What is going on? Ray in Georgia
STEPHEN HENRY MOTT (HENRY1) was born 17 Nov 1837 in Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY, and died 26 May 1866 in Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY. He married SARAH JANE SOPER 17 Jun 1857 in Hempstead, LI, NY1,2, daughter of THOMAS SOPER and SARAH SMITH. She was born 13 Dec 1841 in Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY3, and died 28 May 1906 in Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY. More About SARAH JANE SOPER: Burial: Rockville Cemetery Children of STEPHEN MOTT and SARAH SOPER are: i. HARRIET IDA3 MOTT, b. 08 Jun 1865, Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY; d. Jun 1944; m. MILO ADAMS; d. 1906. More About MILO ADAMS: Burial: Rockville Cemetery ii. GEORGIANA MOTT, b. 17 Aug 1858, Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY; d. 07 Dec 1926; m. HORATIO ELLMORE; b. Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY. iii. EMMA JANE MOTT, b. 26 Jan 1861, Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY; d. 13 Oct 1863. iv. CHARLES HENRY MOTT, b. Aug 1863, Hempstead, Queens Co., LI, NY; d. 16 Mar 1864. Endnotes 1. "Marriages and Deaths from the Long Island Star," Suffolk County Historical Society Register, v.XVI-2, 1990, p.51-59, v.XVI-3, 1990, p.81-89, v.XVII, 1992, p.17-26, v.XVIII-1, 1992, p.19-25, V.XVIII-2, 1992, p.49-60, Vol.XIX, No.2, 1993, pg.42-49. 2. Frost, Josephine C., 1864-1942, Abstracts of Marriage and Death Records Flushing and Vicinity. 3. Age Based or Confirmed by 1850 Federal Census, Hempstead, Queens, NY; Roll:M432_583; Pg:162. I was trying to sort out some of the Soper from some some of another line of Soper's. Thomas and Sarah are from a Henmpstead line that orginalted with a Joseph Soper. so I hope this information helps. Carolee Nichols Diamond ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich bukowski" <rbuko1630@yahoo.com> To: <nybrooklyn-l@rootsweb.com> Cc: <nynassau-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 11:03 AM Subject: [NAS] sarah soper wife of stephen henry Mott b. 1837, d 1906 > I believe my Sarah soper, b 1841 is the is daughter > of thomas soper and sarah smith. Sarah soper married > Stephen henry mott. Stephen was b 1837 and died in > 1866. No record of his death other than my bible > record has been found. Bible records say sarah died > in 1906 but I find no census records of her in the > 1880. or 1900 census. Did she re- marry after > Stephen died? , thus she is no long sarah mott. Any > suggestions? tia valerie in so fl. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYNASSAU-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Tracing collateral lines brought me to two brothers, who matrried two sister, more than once, and a man who married his brother's neighbor. You beging ti imagine how these folks met. ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
Have you gotten Andrew's Naturalization papers from NARA? Andrew STULZ filed became a citizen on October 23, 1855, in New York County [Manhattan] in the Court of Common Pleas. His nationality shows as French, and the witness was Joseph HERRSCHAFT; both men lived in Greenpoint, NY [Brooklyn]. That's located in VOLUME: 148 & COPY OF RECORD: 102. You cannot get this online through the NARA website without his specific certificate number, but you can write a letter to NARA with the information above, and include $15. for a non certified copy, or $25. for a certified copy. Barb N of NYC ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
Collateral lines got me back to Ireland and the names of my G-G-Grandfathers parents and the number of siblings he had. We found records of baptisms and marriages for the family. Collateral lines got me into the correct Naylor family in the UK when I had no marriage record nor paper proof for my G-G-Grandparents. After 8 years I did find the marriage record for them that showed the names of their fathers and the witnesses to the marriage who just happen to be my other G-G-Grandparents. It turned out where they lived was not where they got married at. Collateral lines have proven time and again the correct family of Holdens in the UK that I belong to. The Holden surname there is like the Smith surname here and if you get yourself into the wrong one its a mess figuring out just which one is the one you belong to especially since most family names are James, John, William, Mary, Elizabeth and Ellen. Collateral lines also gave us the first pictures of my fathers G-G-G-Grandparents that we didn't know existed. I thought in genealogy that everyone did the siblings of the lines as when I started to do genealogy the person in the UK taught me to do them to prove out my lines. I just assumed that everyone did it also. I mean collateral lines are family also right? They deserve to be in the family tree as much as your immed family. Search those collaateral lines as they can sometimes be a treasure chest of family info. slc swtx.
I couldn't agree more! Years ago, frustrated by my brick walls, I decided to research a collateral line, namely one of my mother's cousins who I knew only by name. I found him on the Social Security Death Index indicating he had died in a small town in the mid-West. (Most of my family is on the East coast). I contacted the library of the town where he died, obtained his obit and wrote to the survivors listed in the obit. Fortunately, one of them answered my letter Not only did he give me information about a whole branch of the family I didn't know existed, but also sent me a picture he had of my mother's family taken when she was a small child -- the only picture of my grandfather I'd ever seen! Yes, I know this was sheer luck, but it never would have happened had I not decided to explore a collateral line. Dorothy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Jacobs" <thegenie@patmedia.net> To: "'Mimi Stevens'" <donnmimi@gmail.com>; <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 8:55 AM Subject: [BKLYN] ] Research your collateral lines! > > I certainly concur. When I do research I cast a wide net! It has > been extraordinarily success as many families intermarried. But my > most recent brickwall to come down involved looking at two marriage > certificates for my grandmother and her sister that I found some 7 > years ago. Last summer I reviewed the witnesses names and started > to research them. Before long, I found ten aunts of uncles of these > sisters that no one in the family knew had come to the US. Now I am > locating the entire family and this has taken me back another generation > to my great great grandparents names and a connection to a famous Jewish > senator in Canada and one in the US. > > You never know what you will find unless you try again and again. > Also, thinking about how to solve the puzzle and accessing discussion > groups from the areas your family are from is very helpful when new > databases and information comes available. > > Diane Jacobs > Somerset, NJ > >
Thank you for your response, Karen! It's a shame that the answers were overwritten---any idea if the actual answers are available somewhere? I wasn't able to find anything online about it--hoping someone else has had experience with it. Thanks! ~Susan On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Karen Pritchett <kpritchett@mkp-law.com> wrote: > Susan, I found the following: > "The 1910 census (column 30) indicates whether the person was a "survivor > of > the Union or Confederate Army or Navy." The answers are "UA" for Union > Army, > "UN" for Union Navy, "CA" for Confederate Army, and "CN" for Confederate > Navy. These clues lead to military service and pension records; see Civil > War Records and Confederate Pension Records for more information. > > > A word of caution: On the 1910 census, columns 30-32 are often > "overwritten" > with numbers like 2-1-0-0 or 6-9-0-0. These numbers are not the answers for > columns 30-32, but were data summaries used by Census Bureau tabulators in > Washington, DC, to compile statistical data. > > > The 1930 census (column 31) indicates Civil War veterans with the > abbreviation "CW." > > Karen > > -----Original Message----- > From: nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Susan > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:41 PM > To: nybrooklyn-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BKLYN] need help with 1910 census & question about > claimingUS-born vs. immigrant > > > I have to admit that I never really paid attention to the right-hand side > of > the census pages, but since one of my ancestors died in June 1918, I have > very little information to go on, so I'm trying to look for more clues > about > who he was. If anyone has a minute, and wouldn't mind taking a look at the > census for Steven Harrington, let me know & I'll email it to you. > > Here are the last 3 questions & their answers: > where it asks "whether a survivor of the Union or Confederate Army or > Navy," > the answer is "4" > where it asks "whether blind (both eyes)" the answer is "3" > where it asks "whether deaf or dumb" the answer is "x" > > What do these answers mean? Does 4 mean he's a survivor of one of those 4 > options? > What could 3 mean regarding his vision? > Does "x" mean that he's neither deaf nor dumb? > > I'd appreciate any insight anyone could lend. The family lore states he > was > born in the US, the census states New York (yet you can clearly see that > the > enumerator started to write "Ireland" at first and then changed it to "New > York.") I don't know what the benefit would be to state that the Head of > the Household was a Natural-born citizen vs. an immigrant - do any of you? > Would he not have to prove it? I have had zero luck in finding him on > anything but this particular census, the birth certificates for his > children, and his death certificate. I was excited at the thought of > finding his WW! Draft Card, but sadly (not to mention frustrating as hell!) > he died about a month before his age group was to sign up!! I had such > high hopes when I finally found his death certificate, but his wife must > have supplied the information and listed NOTHING for a date of birth; > "James" as his father's name; and "Ellen" as the name of his mother, > however > his wife's name was Ellen, so I'm not comfortable considering that as fact > until I can get more backup. At the time of his death, he was working for > the transit authority - would any such records exist regarding a possible > pension? > > I know that when he died, his family (who supposedly lived close enough to > visit weekly) stopped having contact with them because times were tough for > them too, they had no money either, and allegedly weren't happy that they'd > had so many children, etc So, I have no other information on that family. > I've tried searching for a James Harrington with a wife named Ellen or > Helen, etc in the are, to no avail. It's as if he didn't exist until his > first daughter was born in 1905 because I have her birth record! There's > no > record of their marriage, either. > > I'd appreciate any suggestions...Hoping that "new eyes" would see things > I've been missing! > > Thanks in advance! > ~Susan Curley > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >
I certainly concur. When I do research I cast a wide net! It has been extraordinarily success as many families intermarried. But my most recent brickwall to come down involved looking at two marriage certificates for my grandmother and her sister that I found some 7 years ago. Last summer I reviewed the witnesses names and started to research them. Before long, I found ten aunts of uncles of these sisters that no one in the family knew had come to the US. Now I am locating the entire family and this has taken me back another generation to my great great grandparents names and a connection to a famous Jewish senator in Canada and one in the US. You never know what you will find unless you try again and again. Also, thinking about how to solve the puzzle and accessing discussion groups from the areas your family are from is very helpful when new databases and information comes available. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ I would like to remind everyone who has hit a brick wall ......... research your collateral lines. I can't stress this enough. Here's why ..... I have been at a dead end for my STULZ family ever since I started doing genealogy over 20 years ago. Recently I thought, what the heck, I'll look around again. Since I've done pretty much all the US research I can on my great great grandfather Andrew Stulz (who emigrated to the US [Brooklyn] in May 1836 with his family) I decided to try once again to find information on his siblings. One sister became a nun and I concentrated on her. She ended up in New Orleans. To make a long story short, I was able to make contact with her order and they looked up her records for me. They gave me her birth date. With fingers crossed I asked if it said WHERE she was born. IT DID! With that information I then knew exactly where in Alsace the family came from (the ship manifest said Strasbourg - I guess that was the biggest city near them - and it was many miles away). Lucky me, the small town they were from had the civil records all indexed. By contacting a volunteer over there, not only was I given all the extractions of marriages, births and deaths, I also learned grandparents' names and where they were from in Germany. Well, that led me to a Kinship book in Baden and now my family line goes all the way back to the early 1600s. I'm still pinching myself in disbelief. :) So, KEEP TRYING, look back over what you have, re-assess the information and do repeat searches every once in awhile (new information comes on line daily). I wish you all happy hunting and great success! ~ Mimi
I believe my Sarah soper, b 1841 is the is daughter of thomas soper and sarah smith. Sarah soper married Stephen henry mott. Stephen was b 1837 and died in 1866. No record of his death other than my bible record has been found. Bible records say sarah died in 1906 but I find no census records of her in the 1880. or 1900 census. Did she re- marry after Stephen died? , thus she is no long sarah mott. Any suggestions? tia valerie in so fl. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
grt grt grt grandfather Henry Mott is listed in 1850 Hempstead census with wife frances and 3 kids. Is this the same Henry Mott who is listed in 1860 living with Sarah and Phillip Clement? I need a death date for the Henry Mott listed in the 1850 census.TIA Valerie ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Mimi, I agree 100%, and have my own success along those same lines. This is not a Brooklyn connection however. One set of my great-grandparents was born in Canada, I thought in the Montreal area. I have been searching for their birth/baptism records for at least 10 years now. Recently first some digital images and then a partial index became available for Quebec BMD records. I began searching those records, but to no avail. That is until I searched not for my great-grandmother, but instead a person I thought might be one of her brothers. I found his marriage record which showed he was indeed one of her brothers, and what's more, it provided the name of the parish (not Montreal but nearby) where the parents lived during that time. So I went to search the records of that small parish last night for the first time; lo and behold, there she was, sitting right there in those records just waiting for me to find her. I found not only her, but another one of her brothers in the baptismal records for that other location outside of Montreal -- a place I would never have known to look had it not been for her brothers marriage record (she was 3 when that brother was first married). Not only did I succeed in finding her record after 10 years of searching for it -- I learned that she and I share a birthday (November 29th). Now if only I could find her husband's birth record as well. -- Mary Mimi Stevens wrote: > I would like to remind everyone who has hit a brick wall ......... > research your > collateral lines. [snip]
I would like to remind everyone who has hit a brick wall ......... research your collateral lines. I can't stress this enough. Here's why ..... I have been at a dead end for my STULZ family ever since I started doing genealogy over 20 years ago. Recently I thought, what the heck, I'll look around again. Since I've done pretty much all the US research I can on my great great grandfather Andrew Stulz (who emigrated to the US [Brooklyn] in May 1836 with his family) I decided to try once again to find information on his siblings. One sister became a nun and I concentrated on her. She ended up in New Orleans. To make a long story short, I was able to make contact with her order and they looked up her records for me. They gave me her birth date. With fingers crossed I asked if it said WHERE she was born. IT DID! With that information I then knew exactly where in Alsace the family came from (the ship manifest said Strasbourg - I guess that was the biggest city near them - and it was many miles away). Lucky me, the small town they were from had the civil records all indexed. By contacting a volunteer over there, not only was I given all the extractions of marriages, births and deaths, I also learned grandparents' names and where they were from in Germany. Well, that led me to a Kinship book in Baden and now my family line goes all the way back to the early 1600s. I'm still pinching myself in disbelief. :) So, KEEP TRYING, look back over what you have, re-assess the information and do repeat searches every once in awhile (new information comes on line daily). I wish you all happy hunting and great success! ~ Mimi
Thank you very much for this post. I must have missed the first post explaining free access. Happy they extended it, because I have already found a lot of ancestors records and am still looking for more. Thanks again! LS MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > Due to populatr demand, free access to these Civil War records continues > until June 30, 2008. > >> Click here: Civil War-Free Access >> > http://alexanderstreet.com/resources/civilwar.access.htm > > > > ************** > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Hi folks, Greetings from Ireland. I am new to the list and new to searching for relatives in NY. I am hoping to find out info about my Grandmothers family who came to America in the 1920's. Four of my Grandmother Kathleen Thompson's siblings came to America, during that period. William, James, Hugh and Edith. William John born 19 Feb 1891 in Armagh Ireland came to the US in Jan 1921 and his wife Catherine Thompson came out later that year in Sept 1921 to her Husband then living 220 Park Place, Brooklyn. (from Eliis Island.org) I have found a William & Catherine Thompson in the 1930 Census for Brooklyn living with their four Children James, Sarah, Gerald & Robert. One thing that worries me is the family claim they were all born in NY. The childrens names are all family names of my Grandmothers siblings, so it is very likey that this is the right family. I've found on familysearch.org that there was a William Thompson born 18 Feb 1891 died Aug 1979 in Kings 11222 (being from Ireland, this doesn't make much sense to me) An aunt of mine told me that William and Catherine (I don't have her maiden name) had two more children Eileen and William Jr. who must have been born after the 1930 census. William was the eldest son of Robert Thompson and his wiife Sarah Jane Robinson. Ideally I'd love to find info on the family, and also re-establish contact with any descendents, I think Sarah may have married a marine by the name of Jack House ?? My grandparents died very young both were dead by 1956, so I imagine this is the principal reason why the families lost touch. James Thompson married a Catherine Evans and settled in her home town of Wappinger Falls NY, he died 29 Oct 1958 and His Wife Catherine wdied around 17 August 1987. Hugh Thompson died unmarried in Danbury CT Edith Thompson & her Husband Jack Tyrell also settled in Danbury CT Hoping for some success, many thanks for taking time to read this. Regards Gareth C J Mac Allister. Co Down Ireland ********************************************************************** Communications on the Northern Ireland Office's computer systems may be monitored and/or recorded to secure effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. ********************************************************************** The original of this email was scanned for viruses by the Government Secure Intranet virus scanning service supplied by Cable&Wireless in partnership with MessageLabs. (CCTM Certificate Number 2007/11/0032.) On leaving the GSi this email was certified virus free. Communications via the GSi may be automatically logged, monitored and/or recorded for legal purposes.