Both Phoebe and her husband William are interned in Brooklyn's Greenwood cemetery. See: http://www.green-wood.com/bur_search.asp folks I am new to this list - I think I may have traced my great aunt from Ireland to Brooklyn - she was Phoebe McConnell who arrived at Ellis Island in 1899 aged 22 - said she was going to one M McCartney at 2 Mill St, Newburgh. No matter what way round I spell name I can't find Phobe or a McCartney in Newburgh in 1900. In 1910 I just looked for Phoebe born 1876 + or - 5 in Ireland - anywhere in Us - not too many and the best fit was a Phoebe Graham - wife of Wm Graham living in Leopard St, Brooklyn. I have managed to track him back to his passage from ireland to US in 1895 and also found his naturalisation. I have Wm and Phoebe up to 1930 - always at same address - no kids. I know my Phoebe was still alive in late late 1940's. and i was led ot believe she had no fmaily so that one looks even more promising. Now in 1910 Phoebe and Wm were married 0 years so marriage was 1909 / early 1910. Now my question - can anyone tell me is there any way I can get or find the marriage of Wm Graham and Phoebe to see if she is indeed Phoebe McConnell. As Wm Graham was at same address- Leopard St, Brooklyn in 1900 which was before his marriage so I assume he married in Brooklyn. Yvonne -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 8115 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ___________________________________ ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
NYC Vital records can be searched on www.stevemorse.org under the heading Birth, marriage, and other Vital records. There is listed a death of Phoebe Graham who may be the one you are looking for Graham Phoebe 68 y Nov 5 1944 21631 Kings 1875 - 1876 Certificates can be ordered either from NYC or the mormon church in Itah. am new to this list - I think I may have traced my great aunt from Ireland to Brooklyn - she was Phoebe McConnell who arrived at Ellis Island in 1899 aged 22 - said she was going to one M McCartney at 2 Mill St, Newburgh. No matter what way round I spell name I can't find Phobe or a McCartney in Newburgh in 1900. In 1910 I just looked for Phoebe born 1876 + or - 5 in Ireland - anywhere in Us - not too many and the best fit was a Phoebe Graham - wife of Wm Graham living in Leopard St, Brooklyn. I have managed to track him back to his passage from ireland to US in 1895 and also found his naturalisation. I have Wm and Phoebe up to 1930 - always at same address - no kids. I know my Phoebe was still alive in late late 1940's. and i was led ot believe she had no fmaily so that one looks even more promising. Now in 1910 Phoebe and Wm were married 0 years so marriage was 1909 / early 1910. Now my question - can anyone tell me is there any way I can get or find the marriage of Wm Graham and Phoebe to see if she is indeed Phoebe McConnell. As Wm Graham was at same address- Leopard St, Brooklyn in 1900 which was before his marriage so I assume he married in Brooklyn. Yvonne ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
Hello Debbie, In response to your query, I had a problem finding records from this church also. This is what I did, first I got a marriage record from the Archives in Brooklyn which put me on this quest (German Presbyterian Church, 230 Hopkins St, the clergyman: Rev. John Meury). I bought a book “Inventory of the Church Archives of New York City: Presbyterian Church in the USA,” (New York, NY: Historical Records Survey Works Projects Administration, New York, 1940) and I found that the Bushwick Avenue German Presbyterian Church, Brooklyn, New York, was organized 1868, and merged with the German Church of Peace, Brooklyn, (org. 1884) in 1921. At this time I contacted the Presbyterian Historical Society in Philadelphia, PA and was told that they did not have the church records. They told me to contact the Burke Library, Union Theological Seminary, New York which I did and was told that they no longer had church records. As it turned out this church, the Bushwick Avenue Church of Peace merged into Westminster-Bethany Presbyterian Church, Brooklyn, in 1981. to contact the Westminster Bethany Presbyterian Church, 644 MacDonugh, Brooklyn 11233, (718) 443-1509. At this time I have not been able to contact the church. I Believe they have all the church records. The records that I think will be most important are the Records of the Baptisms 2 vol. 1868-90, 1890-1921; and Records of Marriages, 2 vols, 1868-75, 1875-1921. I am looking for the surnames: Radecke and Schmidt (at times listed as Smith in the census recorders). They lived at 137 Harrison Av, Brooklyn. Henry Hensel Norman, Oklahoma _tmcorner@aol.com_ (mailto:tmcorner@aol.com) Message: 1 Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 17:27:01 EDT From: DVMZ1@aol.com Subject: [BKLYN] Where to write for Records of Presbyterian Church at Hopkins & Throop Sts. Bklyn To: NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <ce9.33eeed60.357c5725@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Anyone know where to write for Church records (a baptism) that occurred at the German Presbyterian Church located at 230 Hopkins Ave near Throop St? Debbie **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
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Marilyn, the Reformed Protestant Dutch Church became the Reformed Church in America. Information about its archives is at http://www.rca.org/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?pid=230&srcid=514 . Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY --- On Sun, 6/8/08, Marilyn GROSBECK <mcgrn98@msn.com> wrote: From: Marilyn GROSBECK <mcgrn98@msn.com> Subject: [BKLYN] Reformed Protestant Dutch Church To: "NYBrooklyn" <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com>, "NYKings" <NYKINGS@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, June 8, 2008, 8:40 AM In doing a genealogy search, I have found that two Lots at Green-Wood Cemetery belong to the Elders and Deacons of The Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of the City of New York. I Googled this organization and came up with an article from 1887. I am wondering if this organization is still in operation and how and where may I contact them. I am looking for information on a number of family members that were removed from New York City and reinterred in Green-Wood on January 28, 1869. Green-Wood does not have the original date of interment. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Marilyn ___________________________________ The Bklyn Info Pages Website: www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com ___________________________________ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
In doing a genealogy search, I have found that two Lots at Green-Wood Cemetery belong to the Elders and Deacons of The Reformed Protestant Dutch Church of the City of New York. I Googled this organization and came up with an article from 1887. I am wondering if this organization is still in operation and how and where may I contact them. I am looking for information on a number of family members that were removed from New York City and reinterred in Green-Wood on January 28, 1869. Green-Wood does not have the original date of interment. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Marilyn
Some further thoughts occurred to me too. The Dept of Health 1900 stamp would reflect when the marriage was reported to the city vs. when is actually happened and the certificate number would have been assigned then so this would be 1900 Kings certif #4366. Is the 1897 date from down in the body of the certificate where it states who performed the marriage plus when and where? A 3-yr gap between marriage and recording is a bit unusual but anything is possible (as we all know!). If the IGG site's index was transcribed from the index microfilms rather than the certificate microfilms, that could account for the difference in the bride's first name. I've seen a couple of cases where an index film differed in one way or another from the certificate. Was there something else in the certificate that wasn't as expected -- e.g., groom's name, date, boro, etc? J Torre PS: that 3-yr gap gives me some ideas for widening my search for some elusive marriage records! ----- Original Message ----- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:49:26 +0000 From: barkie@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Marriage Record Question To: "Marilyn GROSBECK" <mcgrn98@msn.com>, "NYBrooklyn" Marilyn, Several questions occurred to me when I read your post. First, it sounds like you did get the certificate itself, since you say the the stamp from the Department of Health gives a date of 20 July 1900. Are you looking for Ida K. Hawes or Cora Hawes. The exact given name isn't that critical as Cora may have been a nickname or the name she preferred, and used that for all her transactions, legal or informal. Is the groom on the certificate the right man? I guess you're looking for Robert Cox's marriage. Where did you find the 1897 date and do you have other documentation that the marriage actually occurred in 1897, or was it really 1900? Yes, this is a puzzlement but the more solid info you have, the easier to untangle. I know my response hasn't actually figured out the inconsistencies, but perhaps will give you some encouragement to put on your detective hat. When you do put the pieces together, please keep the list up to date. Barbara in Jacksonville -------------- Original message from "Marilyn GROSBECK" <mcgrn98@msn.com>: -------------- > I have a copy of a marriage record for Robert Cox. The certificate number was > obtained from the Italian site. Certificate # 4366 > > The site says the bride is Cora Hawes and the date is September 2, 1900. > Certificate # 4366 > > The marriage record says that the bride is Ida K. Hawes and the date is > September 1897. The stamp from the Department of health says July 20, 1900. > Certificate # 4366 > > I can not find any marriage record at the Italian site for Ida K. Hawes. > > This is a bit of a puzzlement. Would someone have any idea about this > situation? > > Thank you, > > Marilyn
Anyone know where to write for Church records (a baptism) that occurred at the German Presbyterian Church located at 230 Hopkins Ave near Throop St? Debbie **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
New features on the One-Step website ( http://stevemorse.org ) 1. Phonetic Name Matching: Steve Morse, together with Alexander Beider, has developed a method of phonetic name matching that has advantages over soundex name matching. Soundex matching considers the way the name is spelled, whereas phonetic matching considers the way the name is pronounced. The pronunciation is language specific, and a determination of the language is made from the spelling of the name. As a consequence, a soundex search will result in a large number of false hits that the researcher needs to examine, whereas a phonetic search will give relatively few false hits. The phonetic name matching has been or is about to be included on several existing One-Step search forms. These include the gold form for searching for passengers in the Ellis Island database (coming soon) as well as the One-Step Dachau Concentration Camp search form. In addition, the two new search forms described below (Searching Naturalization Records and Searching Reference Books) also include phonetic name matching. 2. Searching Naturalization Records in One Step A commercial website, footnote.com, has collections of naturalization records for several states. There are currently about two million records in this collection. However, the search facility for finding people in these collections is very limited in its abilities. A new One-Step form has been developed to provide flexible searches through these records. This new form appears in the Vital Records section of the One-Step site. 3. Searching Reference Books There are several reference books containing Jewish surnames in various countries. Most of these books have been written by Alexander Beider, and one was written by Lars Menk. A new One-Step form has been developed for searching for names in these books. This new form appears in the Holocaust and Eastern Europe section of the One-Step site. 4. New Orleans Ship Records A commercial website, ancestry.com, has the ship records for the major US ports. These include the ports of New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Galveston, and San Francisco. The One-Step website already had a trio of search forms for each of those ports: one to simplify the search for passengers, a second to provide for direct access to the manifest microfilms if you know the roll and frame number, and a third to determine the roll and frame number for any ship arrival. Now, the One-Step site has added such tools for the Port of New Orleans as well. These new forms appear in the Other Ports section of the One-Step site. 5. French Revolutionary Calendar Converter and Muslim Calendar Converter The One-Step site has had a Jewish Calendar Converter for some time. Two more calendar converters have been added to the One-Step site, one for the French Revolutionary Calendar and the other for the Muslim Calendar. The French Revolutionary calendar is unique in that it takes decimalization to the extreme. The Muslim calendar is purely lunar with no synchronization to the seasons. These appear in the Calendar section of the One-Step site. 6. Arabic Transliterator The One-Step site already had transliterators between Hebrew and English, between Cyrillic and English, and between Greek and English. Recently, a transliterator for Arabic was added. This appears in the Foreign Language section of the One-Step site. Joy Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY
Postings kinda show the bureaucracy of the government. On the one hand: H.R. 6056, "To authorize the Archivist of the United States to make grants to States and then in another message: National Historical Publications and Records Commission (NHPRC), the grant-making arm of NARA, from having a budget of *ZERO* for Fiscal Year 2009. Sunce The Archivist of the United States is the chief official overseeing the operation of the National Archives and Records Administration a budget of ZERO is appropriate and applicable for NHPRC which probably should be disloved leaving all grants under the operation control of the Archivist of the US. Go Feds. ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
St. Francis Prepatory High School in Brooklyn is seeking missing alumnae. You can search or post for a deceased or elderly ancestor here> http://alumni.sfponline.org/members/lost_members.asp?li=S&yr=&DGPCrSrt=& DGPCrPg=2 ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
barkie@bellsouth.net writes: > Ida K. Hawes may have been Ida Kora HAWES. ************** Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?& NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
The Humanities Advocacy Network ( http://www.humanitiesadvocacy.org/action_ctr.html ) is asking people to contact their representatives (through its website) to prevent the National Historical Publications and Records Commission (NHPRC), the grant-making arm of NARA, from having a budget of *ZERO* for Fiscal Year 2009. A description of the NHPRC is at http://www.archives.gov/nhprc , and a state-by-state list of projects it has funded is at http://www.archives.gov/nhprc/projects/states-territories . Thank you. Joy Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY
Can someone on this list give me a pointer or two? After 11 years of researching, I decided to have a genealogy based web page.? I 'applied' for one at Rootsweb.? I currently am using FTM 2006.? What is the easiest way to put my tree (almost 5000 people) on a web page?? If there is software that can do it, does it protect privacy of living persons? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Karen
Karen, You didn't say which kind of account you applied for at rootsweb! It could be either freepages or worldconnect as I understand it. This might get a bit Off-topic if continued here? Join the FREEPAGES-HELP-L mailing list if that's what you applied for. The people there are incredibly helpful if you want to make a text website. Really great, helpful folks. ttp://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/ other/RootsWeb_Support/Freepages-Help.html If you want to upload a GEDCOM then Rootsweb World Connect Project is the place to go at rootsweb. Or check out http://tribalpages.com, another great place to upload your gedcom. I like tribalpages better for a family tree as I find it more user friendly. It is free unless you want to get their advanced features, and I do not know if there is a limit on tree size for free sites. Here are my sites if you want to see what I have done: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~thecohens http://blumstein.tribalpages.com All software and websites enable you to configure the level of privacy according to your personal preference. But I do not trust the results without checking them as there are mistakes that can and do happen in determining if people are living or deceased if they were born before, say, 1920 or 1930. Freepages at rootsweb is html pages. If you want to use family tree maker then there is a rootsweb mailing list specific to FTM issues at rootsweb. One of the FTM lists is the following: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Software/FTM-2008-HELP.html Oh, I see it is the wrong version. Uh, then search for the other FTM lists at rootsweb. There are several that are more general. You can "browse the archives" of a list to decide if it sounds like the right one for you. Use the following to find other lists: http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi- bin/listsearch Yes, there is an option in FTM as all family tree software, to create a gedcom. But I do not have that program. You should be able to call Ancestry.com's tech support for help with that issue if the mailing lists do not meet your needs, but I would guess they should. I hope that helps. On 6/6/08, Karen <kromeo@aol.com> wrote: > Can someone on this list give me a pointer or two? > > After 11 years of researching, I decided to have a genealogy based web > page.? I 'applied' for one at Rootsweb.? I currently am using FTM 2006.? > What is the easiest way to put my tree (almost 5000 people) on a web page?? > If there is software that can do it, does it protect privacy of living > persons? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Karen > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
The Society of American Archivists has issued an Action Alert about a bill entitled "Preserving the American Historical Record Act." The bill was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives on May 14th and has been referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Please read about the bill and how to support it at http://www.archivists.org/pahr . A portion of the information on SAA's website reads: "Current Status H.R. 6056, "To authorize the Archivist of the United States to make grants to States for the preservation and dissemination of historical records" was referred to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform on May 14." "Current Action Alert (1) Ask your members of Congress to sign on as an original sponsor. (2) Tell your Representative in a few sentences why PAHR will benefit his or her constituents-that means you, your organization, and your researchers. (3) Urge your friends, local government officials, relatives-everyone!-to contact their Representatives as well." A two-page PDF of background information is at http://www.archivists.org/pahr/PAHR-factsheet-May2008.pdf . The bill has been endorsed by American Association for State and Local History, American Historical Association, American Political Science Association, Capital Area Archivists (NY), Charleston Archives, Libraries and Museums Council (CALM), Consortium of Iowa Archivists, Delaware Valley Archives Group, Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History, History Associates, Kentucky Council of Archives, Mid-Atlantic Regional Archives Conference, Midwest Archives Conference, National Coalition for History, New England Archivists, Northwest Archivists, Organization of American Historians, Palmetto Archives, Libraries and Museums Council on Preservation (PALMCOP), Society of California Archivists, Society of Florida Archivists, Society of Georgia Archivists, Society of Rocky Mountain Archivists, Society of Southwest Archivists, South Carolina Archival Association, Southeastern Archives and Records Conference, Southern Historical Association, and The History Channel. Joy Joy Rich Brooklyn, NY
I do volunteer transcription work for the German Genealogy Group which is organized by the same people who do the Italian site. They are both unique groups as they work with volunteer transcribers only, we proof our own work, and we help pay for the copying and mailing of the work packets. I say they are unique sites because we are crazy enough to try to read illegible handwriting, faded copies, and spelling errors from years before, and get upset when we can't! You are right when you said that the site would want to know about any errors. It may not get changed overnight, but it will get changed. John Marino runs both groups and he stresses quality of work; if we are unsure about an entry, it gets highlighted so that he or another site worker can go over the information and clean up any problems. Why not do some transcription for the group, or sent in some change for the postage and envelopes that is always needed. It's actually fun to do, and you get a nice feeling when you see the names online that would not be availalbe to the public FREE if it weren't for your work. I'm sure we make mistakes; just let the website know if you spot one...or two. I think that proofreading your own work is the hardest part! Cathy in Fenton, MO the cohens <the.cohens.in.california@gmail.com> wrote: Remember that the Italian site, which is great, is still composed of transcriptions. You may simply have uncovered a transcription error, which I am sure they would want to correct. I have found some records to be inconsistent with each other on that site, or missing one spouse. -- Cathy Champion in Fenton, MO (St. Louis) http://spittingnickels.blogspot.com/ Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -Robert A. Heinlein
Marilyn, Several questions occurred to me when I read your post. First, it sounds like you did get the certificate itself, since you say the the stamp from the Department of Health gives a date of 20 July 1900. Are you looking for Ida K. Hawes or Cora Hawes. The exact given name isn't that critical as Cora may have been a nickname or the name she preferred, and used that for all her transactions, legal or informal. Is the groom on the certificate the right man? I guess you're looking for Robert Cox's marriage. Where did you find the 1897 date and do you have other documentation that the marriage actually occurred in 1897, or was it really 1900? Yes, this is a puzzlement but the more solid info you have, the easier to untangle. I know my response hasn't actually figured out the inconsistencies, but perhaps will give you some encouragement to put on your detective hat. When you do put the pieces together, please keep the list up to date. Barbara in Jacksonville -------------- Original message from "Marilyn GROSBECK" <mcgrn98@msn.com>: -------------- > I have a copy of a marriage record for Robert Cox. The certificate number was > obtained from the Italian site. Certificate # 4366 > > The site says the bride is Cora Hawes and the date is September 2, 1900. > Certificate # 4366 > > The marriage record says that the bride is Ida K. Hawes and the date is > September 1897. The stamp from the Department of health says July 20, 1900. > Certificate # 4366 > > I can not find any marriage record at the Italian site for Ida K. Hawes. > > This is a bit of a puzzlement. Would someone have any idea about this > situation? > > Thank you, > > Marilyn > ___________________________________ > > The Bklyn Info Pages Website: > www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ > > List Administrator: NancyL916@aol.com > > Post to List: nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > ___________________________________ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Remember that the Italian site, which is great, is still composed of transcriptions. You may simply have uncovered a transcription error, which I am sure they would want to correct. I have found some records to be inconsistent with each other on that site, or missing one spouse. At least the certificate number was apparently correct! You could try searching for a marriage announcement for them in the New York Times. If there is one, the year is bound to be correct. Choose "NYT Archive 1851-1980" at http://query.nytimes.com if your public library doesn't have the historical archive available online from Proquest. The NYTimes site does charge for archival images, btw, if you are not a subscriber. On 6/5/08, Marilyn GROSBECK <mcgrn98@msn.com> wrote: > I have a copy of a marriage record for Robert Cox. The certificate number > was obtained from the Italian site. Certificate # 4366 > > The site says the bride is Cora Hawes and the date is September 2, 1900. > Certificate # 4366 > > The marriage record says that the bride is Ida K. Hawes and the date is > September 1897. The stamp from the Department of health says July 20, 1900. > Certificate # 4366 > > I can not find any marriage record at the Italian site for Ida K. Hawes. > > This is a bit of a puzzlement. Would someone have any idea about this > situation? > > Thank you, > > Marilyn
Dose anyone know how to contact Diane Jacobs? Apparently the email address I have for her is bad Thanks, Bill